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UCD WiFi

  • 18-10-2009 11:52pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 325 ✭✭


    Hi

    What exaclty can the ucd wireless be used for and not used for?
    For example can you download torrents or look up porn on the network?

    Also the lack of any encryption whatsoever baffles me-why dont they have enterprise WPA for association and RADIUS for authentication?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    hello932 wrote: »
    Hi

    What exaclty can the ucd wireless be used for and not used for?
    For example can you download torrents


    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭congo_90


    Torrents is a big no- no. If its illegal then you can bet you're not allowed. Not sure on porn but it is prolly flagged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,115 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    hello932 wrote: »
    Also the lack of any encryption whatsoever baffles me-why dont they have enterprise WPA for association and RADIUS for authentication?
    It's coming - that's what the eduroam project uses. It uses encryption and RADIUS authentication at UCD and other participating institutions.

    For general web access, why would authentication be necessary? The network is only available on the UCD campus (unless someone rigs up a cantenna) or something. It's limited to HTTP(S) only, through a proxy which (I suspect) has a dodgy site exclusion list. If they were to log all requests against your username, what would that do other than add more to IT Services' workload? I can just hear the conversations:
    - IT: You were surfing porn last night.
    - Stu: Naw ah wusn't.
    - IT: Yes, you were, we have the logs to prove it.
    - Stu: Naw, ah culdn't git thru, ah wus blocked.
    - IT: ... OK, I mean, we can see you tried to surf porn last night.
    - Stu: Well, it didn't wurk. Now wut?
    - IT ... Don't do it again, m'kay?
    - Stu: Awright then.

    I can think of better uses of IT Services' time, such as sorting out a reliable way for people to mount their Personal folders at home. (Why don't the standard WebDAV methods, work, eh?)

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    There is, in my 2 years experience of living on campus, no block on porn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    There is an acceptable usage policy but no block on any sites


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Torrent trackers arent blocked (I'd check the top 10 downloads a couple of times a day when I'm looking for music to get) but I've never tried even downloading a .torrent file.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭Raemie


    i cant seem to use msn live or access any sort of streaming when on ucd internet, is it like that for everyone is it just my crappy computer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭Notorious


    MSN usually works for me. I think you've to set the network ports on Internet Explorer to get it working though...


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    The wireless lan (WaveLAN Network) has access outbound to port 80 (HTTP) and 443 (HTTPS), and can access the college IMAP server on port 993 also. Skype and many other applications that can send traffic through an HTTP proxy will work. This means torrents, IRC and a whole load of other stuff won't work, so don't waste your time trying.

    There are no filters or flags on content. Even if content was flagged, laptops don't have to be registered to access the Wireless LAN and IP addresses get recycled very regularly. So there's basically no trail back to the user.

    WPA and/or RADIUS authentication wouldn't be a big problem, and most operating systems can use it. It'd be very easy to integrate with the Novell/Connect login system. In fact, if UCD implemented it fully and rolled out the Eduroam pilot we could access wireless LAN's in other colleges here and in europe, and visiting students could do likewise. You'd be able to have full outbound access too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭elgriff


    Raphael wrote: »
    There is, in my 2 years experience of living on campus, no block on porn.

    No shock that you'd know all about that


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    elgriff wrote: »
    No shock that you'd know all about that
    Hi-yo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Red Alert wrote: »
    There are no filters or flags on content. Even if content was flagged, laptops don't have to be registered to access the Wireless LAN and IP addresses get recycled very regularly. So there's basically no trail back to the user.

    WPA and/or RADIUS authentication wouldn't be a big problem, and most operating systems can use it. It'd be very easy to integrate with the Novell/Connect login system.

    What about MAC Address tagging? Fairly easy to implement and knowing a location.. CCTV linked to that. Bit extreme but I've worked in companys where its been implemented. But I very much agree with Radius and WPA.

    On a side note, am I right in saying UCD Connect Passwords are sent in the clear? UCD.ie isn't https so there is nothing stopping one hell of a password sniff during exams etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Kicon


    I know this thread is super old but I was wondering if anyone knows does IT Services loom at what you are looking at and is anything forbidden besides the illegal stuff.


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