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Joy rider about half 7 - 8 o clock parteen ardnacrusha?

  • 18-10-2009 10:24pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭


    Any body see the car joyriding bout half 7 ..8 o clock(sunday) through parteen onto killaloe rd? Must have went through limerick ye might have heard the the gaurds sirens bout 3 garda cars after them 1 unmarked squad?Who were they(joyriders)were they caught hope they injured nobody but are roaring in pain this morn from their injuries.plz help?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    Why do you need help. It sounds to me as though the incident had nothing to do with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Any body see the car joyriding bout half 7 ..8 o clock(sunday) through parteen onto killaloe rd? Must have went through limerick ye might have heard the the gaurds sirens bout 3 garda cars after them 1 unmarked squad?Who were they(joyriders)were they caught hope they injured nobody but are roaring in pain this morn from their injuries.plz help?



    They may not have come through Limerick or have been from Limerick. I am sure there are plenty of heads who rob cars and go joyriding in them in Clare too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    Why do you need help. It sounds to me as though the incident had nothing to do with you.
    its an expression that you use when looking for info, hes not actually looking for help off you, just some information


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Dumdum McCarthy


    Actually who ever was driving the car nearly killed my friend and i,in a head on so i think it has alot to do with me.
    The gardai were also at fault here. Yes i know they were only doing their job and the scum from where ever (who cares) are totally at fault. The gardai parked a quarter of the way down the Ardnacrusha bridge (barrys shop side) in wait with their blue beacon lights flashing.
    Suddenly a car goin so fast over took the gardai...the joyriders were then on our side of the road 40 meters away,as a result I the passenger, had the ditch the car or we were dead, thx to gardai.
    What were they thinking, the lads in the car would stop for them?
    The gardai should have parked down by the pedestrian crossing at the bottom of the hill. Thats easy to say in hindsight but surly the gaurds should have a risk assesment of where they chose to park?
    The gaurds didnt give chase for about 7 seconds later, I actually think they froze and could see us being killed in a head on because of where they parked.I was listening to the local radio all day, I heard nothing on local radio stations. For those who want to know(clare fm, tipp fm and live 95fm).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    Actually who ever was driving the nearly killed my friend and i,in a head on so i think it has alot to do with me,the gardai were also at fault here yes i know they were only doin their job and the scum from where ever (who cares) are totally at fault.the gardai parked a quarter the way down the ardnacrusha bridge hill(barrys shop side) in wait with their lights flashing.Suddenly a car goin so fast over took the gardai..joyriders were then on our side of the road 40 meters away,as a result i d passenge rhad the ditch the car or we were dead thx to gardai...what were they thinking the lads in the car would stop for them?the gardai should have parked down by the pedestrian crossing at the bottom of the hill its easy to say in hindsight but surly the gaurds should have a risk assesment of where they parked?
    the gaurds didnt give chase for about 7 seconds later i actually think they froze and could see us being killed in a head on because of where they parked.I was listening to the local radio all day i heard nothing local radio for those who want to know(clare fm, tipp fm and live 95fm).

    Not being pedantic, but that's unreadable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Maybe you should use your keyboard properly and throw in a little punctuation in the correct places if you want anything constructive to come of the thread.

    In fairness, from what I can gather you saw the Gardaí, with blue lights flashing, and didn't adjust your own position. You're not entirely absolved of blame here either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Dumdum McCarthy


    Firstly I wasnt driving. Why would would the person driving have to adjust their position if the gardai were stoped on the other side of the road? By the way the driver did slow down to about 50kmph in a 60kmph zone.
    Where can one adjust to my friend?Just asking, hard shoulder is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Actually who ever was driving the car nearly killed my friend and i,in a head on so i think it has alot to do with me.
    The gardai were also at fault here. Yes i know they were only doing their job and the scum from where ever (who cares) are totally at fault. The gardai parked a quarter of the way down the Ardnacrusha bridge (barrys shop side) in wait with their blue beacon lights flashing.
    Suddenly a car goin so fast over took the gardai...the joyriders were then on our side of the road 40 meters away,as a result I the passenger, had the ditch the car or we were dead, thx to gardai.
    What were they thinking, the lads in the car would stop for them?
    The gardai should have parked down by the pedestrian crossing at the bottom of the hill. Thats easy to say in hindsight but surly the gaurds should have a risk assesment of where they chose to park?
    The gaurds didnt give chase for about 7 seconds later, I actually think they froze and could see us being killed in a head on because of where they parked.I was listening to the local radio all day, I heard nothing on local radio stations. For those who want to know(clare fm, tipp fm and live 95fm).



    Seems to me that it was thanks to those that robbed the car that you were nearly in a head on, not the Gardai.

    Plus if you and the driver had time to see the parked Garda car with it's lights flashing and were able to see the oncoming robbed car and still had the time to jump out of car, then your driver had plenty of time to get out of the way and not be in that position in the first place.

    Sounds like your driver was too busy rubbernecking and not busy being concerned with the safety of him/herself and the passengers in the car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭MrFireBox


    jackncoke wrote: »
    Not being pedantic, but that's unreadable.

    Go back to school for yourself so.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭MrFireBox


    wylo wrote: »
    its an expression that you use when looking for info, hes not actually looking for help off you, just some information

    Well said, seems to be alot of smart ar5es on this forum.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭baza1976


    Any body see the car joyriding bout half 7 ..8 o clock(sunday) through parteen onto killaloe rd? Must have went through limerick ye might have heard the the gaurds sirens bout 3 garda cars after them 1 unmarked squad?Who were they(joyriders)were they caught hope they injured nobody but are roaring in pain this morn from their injuries.plz help?

    I don't know what this has to do with Limerick??? Can a Mod move this to the Clare forum???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Dumdum McCarthy


    "Seems to me that it was thanks to those that robbed the car that you were nearly in a head on, not the Gardai." kess 73

    I did say the scum were totally at fault,above!

    "Plus if you and the driver had time to see the parked Garda car with it's lights flashing and were able to see the oncoming robbed car and still had the time to jump out of car, then your driver had plenty of time to get out of the way and not be in that position in the first place." kess 73

    If u knew the area i was talking about u cant see an oncoming car coming over the bridge,especially a car breaking the speed limit.
    Nobody jumped out of the car i was in?

    "Sounds like your driver was too busy rubbernecking and not busy being concerned with the safety of him/herself and the passengers in the car."kess73

    Rubbernecking i thought was when people pass a crash and turn their head looking across then behind at the accident, hence the term rubberneck.
    Also how could we rubberneck when we were the sole car involved in the incident..We were rubbernecking at ourselfs in the ditch.Thanks for your concern.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Dumdum McCarthy


    Baza1976,,,, it has alot to do with limerick.I will find out who they were and i will post the facts here too, for all to see.
    Alot of people use this site from Westbury, Shannon Banks, Parteen, Coonagh.Would it be easier if all those people living in Clare posted their views in the Clare section of Boards.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    baza1976 wrote: »
    I don't know what this has to do with Limerick??? Can a Mod move this to the Clare forum???

    Is not Ardnacrusha/Parteen not near enough Limerick anyway. In all probability the joyrider scum were from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭baza1976


    Is not Ardnacrusha/Parteen not near enough Limerick anyway. In all probability the joyrider scum were from there.
    Is not possible that they were from Clare??? If the car was robbed and heading to killaloe direaction as stated by OP, it says to me them lads were headng to a place they are very familiar with!!!
    Baza1976,,,, [B]it has alot to do with limerick.I will find out who they were and i will post the facts here too, for all to see.


    Alot of people use this site from Westbury, Shannon Banks, Parteen, Coonagh.Would it be easier if all those people living in Clare posted their views in the Clare section of Boards.[/B]?

    This part is just childish:confused:
    If the comment is related to Limerick post it in the Limerick forum if it is about somewhere else psot it somewhere else no matter where you are from. I would have thought that was obivious.

    What has it to do with Limerick??? everything that happened happened in CLare you said so yourself!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    The gardaí are in the Limerick area division?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73



    I did say the scum were totally at fault,above!


    Actually you said that you were almost killed thanks to the Gardai.

    What you said was;

    "Suddenly a car goin so fast over took the gardai...the joyriders were then on our side of the road 40 meters away,as a result I the passenger, had the ditch the car or we were dead, thx to gardai."



    If u knew the area i was talking about u cant see an oncoming car coming over the bridge,especially a car breaking the speed limit.
    Nobody jumped out of the car i was in?


    I do know the area. You say now you could not see the Garda car, yet earlier you said;

    "The gardai parked a quarter of the way down the Ardnacrusha bridge (barrys shop side) in wait with their blue beacon lights flashing."

    If you could not see the car how did you see it parked with it's lights flashing?


    You also say now that you did not see the oncoming car and you did not junp from the car, yet earlier you said;



    "Suddenly a car goin so fast over took the gardai...the joyriders were then on our side of the road 40 meters away,as a result I the passenger, had the ditch the car or we were dead, thx to gardai."


    So despite saying you did not see the Gardai or the oncoming car, earlier you actually saw it overtaking the parked Garda car, and despite only having 40 metres between you and the oncoming car you still managed to ditch the car



    Rubbernecking i thought was when people pass a crash and turn their head looking across then behind at the accident, hence the term rubberneck.
    Also how could we rubberneck when we were the sole car involved in the incident..We were rubbernecking at ourselfs in the ditch.Thanks for your concern.





    Rubbernecking does not just mean at accidents, it can be for any situation where a person stares when they should be either moving on or out of the way. Also if you were on the bridge how do you end up in a ditch? There are no hedges/ditches until you are off of that bridge, in which case the road is much wider than it was on the bridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭baza1976


    zuroph wrote: »
    The gardaí are in the Limerick area division?

    Who, silly me you cracked my whole case:rolleyes:

    Look, it seems when something "bad" happens in CLare or Tipp it always the boys from Limerick???!!!???

    I wish I lived in a perfect place like Clare or Tipp where there are no scumbags of their own, no drug dealers, murderers or rapist :rolleyes:

    Maybe if something bad has happened in Clare it belongs in CLare.
    We have enough of our own scum and sh**e to deal with, without helping ye with yers.

    Whats the point in having a Clare forum (or Tipp forum) if post all your crap in the Limerick forum???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    you people are the biggest bunch of pedants.

    Christ like, McCarthy here just wants to try find out more info. The cops half arsed attempt at a road block WAS dangerous going on the description, of course the joyriders would just go around them, and without a further warning to traffic back teh road it should never have been set up that way. People will argue that there was no time, yes, but they shouldnt have done it at all then. What they did was endanger more public.

    Stop arguing semantics and stick to the issue at hand. Yes he can be in the rise for the bridge there and end up in a ditch. The thread is related to Limerick more than Clare forum as the chase seems to have come out of town, and the gardaí are in the limerick area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    baza1976 wrote: »
    Who, silly me you cracked my whole case:rolleyes:

    Look, it seems when something "bad" happens in CLare or Tipp it always the boys from Limerick???!!!???

    I wish I lived in a perfect place like Clare or Tipp where there are no scumbags of their own, no drug dealers, murderers or rapist :rolleyes:

    Maybe if something bad has happened in Clare it belongs in CLare.
    We have enough of our own scum and sh**e to deal with, without helping ye with yers.

    Whats the point in having a Clare forum (or Tipp forum) if post all your crap in the Limerick forum???

    :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭baza1976


    zuroph wrote: »
    you people are the biggest bunch of pedants.

    Christ like, McCarthy here just wants to try find out more info. The cops half arsed attempt at a road block WAS dangerous going on the description, of course the joyriders would just go around them, and without a further warning to traffic back teh road it should never have been set up that way. People will argue that there was no time, yes, but they shouldnt have done it at all then. What they did was endanger more public.

    Stop arguing semantics and stick to the issue at hand. Yes he can be in the rise for the bridge there and end up in a ditch. The thread is related to Limerick more than Clare forum as the chase seems to have come out of town, and the gardaí are in the limerick area.

    Right there you just backed up my previous post.

    There is enough scum around the shannon banks area to rob cars,

    Most of the time when cars are stolen in Limerick they are to be found in some part of Limerick. it would very unlike for them to head to Killaloe!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    theres fvck all scum in shannon banks(and no im not from there)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    baza1976 wrote: »
    Right there you just backed up my previous post.

    There is enough scum around the shannon banks area to rob cars,

    Most of the time when cars are stolen in Limerick they are to be found in some part of Limerick. it would very unlike for them to head to Killaloe!!
    unless they were being chased closely by Gardaí ???? Otherwise they'd have parked up where they wanted and burned the car out.
    In fact, take a drive out around the border by longpavement any weekend and see the burned out cars. I presume once they get passed the dump, its no longer Limerick's problem?

    Borders create nothing but more trouble. Its an area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭snowman707


    baza1976 wrote: »
    Who, silly me you cracked my whole case:rolleyes:

    Look, it seems when something "bad" happens in CLare or Tipp it always the boys from Limerick???!!!???

    not always only 99% of the time, most recent dealing with us were the 2 pr1cks with a 07L***** Transit who we caught stealing our road diesel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    zuroph wrote: »
    you people are the biggest bunch of pedants.

    Christ like, McCarthy here just wants to try find out more info. The cops half arsed attempt at a road block WAS dangerous going on the description, of course the joyriders would just go around them, and without a further warning to traffic back teh road it should never have been set up that way. People will argue that there was no time, yes, but they shouldnt have done it at all then. What they did was endanger more public.

    Stop arguing semantics and stick to the issue at hand. Yes he can be in the rise for the bridge there and end up in a ditch. The thread is related to Limerick more than Clare forum as the chase seems to have come out of town, and the gardaí are in the limerick area.


    You're the only one talking a bit of sense here. It's not like the were breaking for the border to Mexico. It's no wonder other people get sick of hearing Limerick folk saying they are being unfairly targetted by the media if this is the head in the sand rubbish they go on with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭MrFireBox


    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    You're the only one talking a bit of sense here. It's not like the were breaking for the border to Mexico. It's no wonder other people get sick of hearing Limerick folk saying they are being unfairly targetted by the media if this is the head in the sand rubbish they go on with.

    Well said :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    zuroph wrote: »
    you people are the biggest bunch of pedants.

    Christ like, McCarthy here just wants to try find out more info. The cops half arsed attempt at a road block WAS dangerous going on the description, of course the joyriders would just go around them, and without a further warning to traffic back teh road it should never have been set up that way. People will argue that there was no time, yes, but they shouldnt have done it at all then. What they did was endanger more public.

    Stop arguing semantics and stick to the issue at hand. Yes he can be in the rise for the bridge there and end up in a ditch. The thread is related to Limerick more than Clare forum as the chase seems to have come out of town, and the gardaí are in the limerick area.



    If he was so bothered by it, then why not go to the Gardai about it, rather than post here and also threaten to post the details of who was driving the car on Boards.ie

    Making that threat makes it seem like he only wants to find out so that he can post names on Boards.


    The roadblock being in a dangerous place is laughable as the OP has said that he could see the roadblock in one post, and that he could not see it in another.

    So if he could see it ahead of them, then they were stupid to drive towards it. But if he could not see it, or the oncoming car until it came at them, then how can he say where it originally was?

    He has already said it was on no radio news, and it is in none of the online editions of the papers, so the only way he can find anything out is by speaking to the Gardai, as nobody is going to come on here and say that it was Joe Smith driving the car, and even if somebody does know who was driving the car it would be against the charter for any of us here to say their names without a confirmed link to an arrest and/or conviction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    You're the only one talking a bit of sense here. It's not like the were breaking for the border to Mexico. It's no wonder other people get sick of hearing Limerick folk saying they are being unfairly targetted by the media if this is the head in the sand rubbish they go on with.


    What head in the sand rubbish.

    The OP has said conflicting things about the incident, in that he could see things in one post and could not in another.


    There has been no radio or paper reports of the incident. For all we know it was a car that was speeding that got caught by a cop car that followed them.

    Anyone that knows the area knows a lot of boy racer cars and their owners hang out in the car park of Barry's shop and that they are whizzing up and down the road there a lot, so it could be one of them who were spotted by the cops.

    I have a lot more time and anger for a real crime like the attack on the old lady at the graveyard than for something that may or may not be accurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    have you pictured the scene? If you're driving up the hill in ardnacrusha, and theres a cop car stopped on the opposite lane, why would you have any reason to come to a stop? Its just a cop car stopped for no apparent reason. The approaching joyriders would have been obscured from view by the hump of the bridge, so Dum Dums mate has no reason to stop, they're not signalling for him to do so.
    Try ringing a garda station and asking for details of crimes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    zuroph wrote: »
    have you pictured the scene? If you're driving up the hill in ardnacrusha, and theres a cop car stopped on the opposite lane, why would you have any reason to come to a stop? Its just a cop car stopped for no apparent reason. The approaching joyriders would have been obscured from view by the hump of the bridge, so Dum Dums mate has no reason to stop, they're not signalling for him to do so.
    Try ringing a garda station and asking for details of crimes.




    He has already said that the cop car was stopped off of the bridge in one post, not on it.

    And he said it had it lights flashing, which is a bit of a clue that something is up.


    Also he said the speeding car overtook the garda car where it was parked and then came at them. To say that you would have the garda car in front of you, with it's lights flashing and the speeding car came from behind the garda car so it would be coming from your front also, so if you can see the garda car with the flashing lights in front of you, then the car coming is in the same line of sight.


    Also in his very first post he said that it was three garda cars and an unmarked car that were chasing the speeding car.

    Then it became a roadblock that froze and then gave chase.

    If four cars were chasing the car and all were moving at speed, then five cars would have had to have gone past the OP not one.


    Plus in the first post he was definite that it went through Parteen and then on to the Killaloe road, very hard to say that if he saw nothing coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Anyhoo this thread has inspired me to dig out one of my favourite old books and read it. I would recommend The Secret Life of Walter Mitty by James Thurber to anyone who wants to read a good book.


    Night all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭Dumdum McCarthy


    zuroph wrote: »
    have you pictured the scene? If you're driving up the hill in ardnacrusha, and theres a cop car stopped on the opposite lane, why would you have any reason to come to a stop? Its just a cop car stopped for no apparent reason. The approaching joyriders would have been obscured from view by the hump of the bridge, so Dum Dums mate has no reason to stop, they're not signalling for him to do so.
    Try ringing a garda station and asking for details of crimes.

    You have the seen spot on, no reason for us to stop.

    Another person posted about the bridge and the position of the garda car,it was actually on the hill of the bridge to be exact it was parked ten metres beyond the canal bank so ten metres past the bridge.

    I actually did contact the gardai in Henry St. in Limerick my local satation,when ardnacrusha is not being policed.I reported the car that was being chased, and also the positioning of there garda car.

    I never said there was a roadblock.

    My first time posting here,i usually read this page at least twice a week and i see the same names contradicting or belittling other peoples posts.A few names keep coming up on all types of posts with nothing constructive to say,Ye are like the bullies of the boards here in Limerick hope yere proud of yourselfs.

    All i was saying was 2 innocent people driving home could have been killed main reason thugs speeding and the other the positioning of the gardai.Thx
    Mod close the thread if u like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    MrFireBox wrote: »
    Go back to school for yourself so.....

    Good one :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    I can draw you a diagram if you want Kess, you've made a few incorrect presumptions about the scene As far as I can tell.

    1) He doesnt have to have seen the car come through parteen himself, he lives there, perhaps his family saw it?
    2) The garda car stopped on (or near the bridge, theres a huge hill on either side that isnt technically a bridge but is part of the structure) is not one of the ones chasing the car.
    3)the garda car is on the opposite side of the road to the OP, with lights flashing, the driver friend of the OP slowed down on seeing this. At this point, there is no way for the OP to know there is a highspeed pursuit about to come jumping over the hill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    zuroph wrote: »
    I can draw you a diagram if you want Kess, you've made a few incorrect presumptions about the scene As far as I can tell.

    1) He doesnt have to have seen the car come through parteen himself, he lives there, perhaps his family saw it?
    2) The garda car stopped on (or near the bridge, theres a huge hill on either side that isnt technically a bridge but is part of the structure) is not one of the ones chasing the car.
    3)the garda car is on the opposite side of the road to the OP, with lights flashing, the driver friend of the OP slowed down on seeing this. At this point, there is no way for the OP to know there is a highspeed pursuit about to come jumping over the hill.



    Draw all the diagrams you want. You will need a few to keep up with the different versions though.

    Don't forget to add in the four extra cars that were involved in the chase in the first post and vanished after that.

    Anyway this has gotten dull, the whole thing smacks of a tale that has been exaggerated.

    If Bodie and Doyle pop up in the chase at some point let me know, otherwise my interest in this tale is over.


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  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    I still can't follow this. Did the car the OP was in go into the ditch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭baza1976


    :D


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