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VW engines buring oil.

  • 18-10-2009 8:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭


    What did VW do to the VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat engines that they have a tendancy to burn oil? I know different people who had Golfs, Passats, Audis, Skodas and Seats all registered after the year 2000 that are burning oil. I know one guy whos Audi needs to be topped up every two weeks as its oil level keeps dropping and its not leaking or anything like that. Is this a fault with the VW engines? No modern cars oil level should drop like that and especially after two weeks of topping it up to the required level on the dip-stick. I know this may not be the case with every VW engine but I know a good few people who have encountered this problem with VW engines. Anybody have any experience with this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    Every engine burns oil. VAG's TDI's are no different. The harder you drive them the more oil you will use. They don't fully seal until 100k klms. Hence why they can generally do crazy miles. Nothing wrong with a an engine needing a top up. Its just the design.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    bbability wrote: »
    Every engine burns oil. VAG's TDI's are no different. The harder you drive them the more oil you will use. They don't fully seal until 100k klms. Hence why they can generally do crazy miles. Nothing wrong with a an engine needing a top up. Its just the design.

    Toyotas dont burn oil, Correct me if im wrong but Ive never heard anyone telling me they do. My own VW Passat is also on my watch from time to tiome as it has the tendancy to burn oil. The warning light has come on twice in my car and if its the design or not, I just thought that VWs shouldnt burn oil like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭Neilw


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Toyotas dont burn oil, Correct me if im wrong but Ive never heard anyone telling me they do. My own VW Passat is also on my watch from time to tiome as it has the tendancy to burn oil. The warning light has come on twice in my car and if its the design or not, I just thought that VWs shouldnt burn oil like that.

    If the warning light has come on twice your not checking your oil level regularly enough. Should check it once a week or before and after a long journey.
    It will be in the manual about acceptable oil usage, prob something like a litre every few thousand miles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Neilw wrote: »
    If the warning light has come on twice your not checking your oil level regularly enough. Should check it once a week or before and after a long journey.
    It will be in the manual about acceptable oil usage, prob something like a litre every few thousand miles.


    I used to check it once a month which I thought was plenty but when the warning lights came on I do it every week now and its always down. Each week, It is obvious to notice that the oil level has dropped. I thought the first time it happend was a once off but the second time it happend made me become more vigilent. I do on average 300 miles a week and in that case there should be no oil burning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭Neilw


    teednab-el wrote: »
    I used to check it once a month which I thought was plenty but when the warning lights came on I do it every week now and its always down. Each week, It is obvious to notice that the oil level has dropped. I thought the first time it happend was a once off but the second time it happend made me become more vigilent. I do on average 300 miles a week and in that case there should be no oil burning.

    What engine is it? I've a 1.8t and it uses only a small amount of oil.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Neilw wrote: »
    What engine is it? I've a 1.8t and it uses only a small amount of oil.

    1.9 TDI Engine, It happened once with my Fathers Passat also and he had the standard 1.9 TDI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭Neilw


    teednab-el wrote: »
    1.9 TDI Engine, It happened once with my Fathers Passat also and he had the standard 1.9 TDI.

    Are you using the correct spec oil for the engine, some of the tdi's are very sensitive to the type of oil required.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭anon11


    1 litre per 1000km is the reccommended allowance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Bought mine new last year (1.4tdi)
    Dealer told me to keep an eye on the oil when it is new as they tens to burn a drop, He said VW engines are designed this way to prolong the life of them. After 600Km's it took a litre of oil.. Now at 15k I never had to put a drop in it.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Neilw wrote: »
    Are you using the correct spec oil for the engine, some of the tdi's are very sensitive to the type of oil required.

    Well Im using the full synthetic oil (expensive stuff) to be used for VW Audi Skoda and Seat TDI engines. I got this gallon of oil from my dealer. I know all the newer TDi engines use this fully synthetic oil as engines are more sensitive. Correct me if im wrong but I presume this fully synthetic oil would be ok for my 2000 VW Passat? It says on the drum to be used for tdi engine makes that are mentioned above. The dealer told me it is better also. It hasnt ****ed up my engine yet anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭Neilw


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Well Im using the full synthetic oil (expensive stuff) to be used for VW Audi Skoda and Seat TDI engines. I got this gallon of oil from my dealer. I know all the newer TDi engines use this fully synthetic oil as engines are more sensitive. Correct me if im wrong but I presume this fully synthetic oil would be ok for my 2000 VW Passat? It says on the drum to be used for tdi engine makes that are mentioned above. The dealer told me it is better also. It hasnt ****ed up my engine yet anyway.

    Sounds like you're using the right oil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Fundthementals


    Must be the exception ! - I run a TDI Galaxy with the PD VW engine and over the last 80k miles I have never had to top up the oil..just regular oil changes at 10k intervals and always used the VW 505.01 spec 5/40 oil. Hopefully will run another 80k+


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,109 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    I was warned about oil in my old 99 TDi Passat, but it never needed topping up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,101 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Toyotas dont burn oil, Correct me if im wrong but Ive never heard anyone telling me they do. My own VW Passat is also on my watch from time to tiome as it has the tendancy to burn oil. The warning light has come on twice in my car and if its the design or not, I just thought that VWs shouldnt burn oil like that.

    Oh yes they do. My 00 Corrolla burns abit all the time and it's a known issue with these cars.

    As others have said anything over 1l per 1000km is when you need to start worring about modern cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Del2005 wrote: »
    As others have said anything over 1l per 1000km is when you need to start worring about modern cars.

    Am I the only one here who would regard 1l/1000kms as completely unacceptable? It's no more than a way for manufacturers to wriggle out of replacing engines with sh1tty tolerances, IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,593 ✭✭✭tossy


    I've a VW engine i'm not getting much change out of 300bhp and it never burns a drop of oil,once on a spirited burst down an Autobahn and 2 laps of the nurburgring i had to put a quarter to half a litre in it.

    So not all VW engines burn oil - touch wood :D

    It could be worse you could drive an RX8 and have to top up your oil as often as your petrol (this is not an RX8 bashing statement just saying its not unknown for modern cars to drink oil)

    I know the 2.0TFSI's from MK5 GTI/Skoda VRs are known to burn a drop for instance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    My Mk1 VRS likes the bit of oil now and again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭alexmcred


    My Tsi engine uses around 1l per 15000kms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    my 1.8t burns zero oil, but I use very short change intervals. Now petrol - it uses plenty of that.. it's even leaking it :-)

    Some of the turbo models could burn more oil when a little plastic check valve goes, but it's not expensive 30 euro or so, and something that any specialist would pick up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Johnny_Klebitz


    My A4 130bhp AWX diesel engine doesn't drink enough to warrant a top up between oil changes, which are normally done before 8k miles (go by the service indicator). It has 130km on the clock and I do around 900 miles a week, driving in mixed conditions.

    Doesn't seem to burn much diesel either!


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