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Have you ever failed a FAS course

  • 16-10-2009 1:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭


    In light of recent revelations, im wondering has anyone ever failed a FAS course...it looks like you have to the greatest clutz to fail.

    I remember doing a engineering course back in the 90s and it was the greatest waste of time, half the time the instructor would be upstairs chatting up the female clerical staff leaving us to our own devices.

    When it came to the final exams everyone bar two expected to fail...but low & behold everyone passed:rolleyes:

    And these were city & guilds certified exams as well which made it even more disgraceful.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Nah I got my degree the same place as I got my viagra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    well thats just not right on any level .
    Im in a plumbing apprenticeship at the moment and i have heard stories about a few test centres around the country ...
    I went to Fas in cork and i can tell you people fail in every class im currently in cit at the moment as part of the training and they are strict on marking there too lots of people need to come back for repeats every single year.
    I have heard stories of one fas centre elsewhere in the country where as a apprentice on "training" if you came in for a hour or two in the morning you would be paid for the day, there are some dodgy teachers out there ..... but there are some great ones too and the idea of passing people that dont deserve it just doesnt happen in most centers ......... Its a case of a few bad apples id say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Medievalist


    I remember doing the FAS Safe Pass course (slightly different to the courses in the news at the moment, I know). I was the only girl, and the only archaeologist in a testosterone-filled room of construction workers.

    After an entire day of completely useless info about circular saws, JCBs and other construction related stuff, only 2 people got 18 out of 18 questions right: myself (who has never been near a circular saw in my life and offended that they didn't cover the dangers of trowelling;)) and one other guy.

    Five...yes FIVE people failed it completely. Now these questions are the easiest in the world to answer, and most of the people in the room had been in construction for years. The instructor brought them through the test again, and some still failed. Third time around he went something like this: 'Is the answer A, B, C (nod and wink) or D?'

    Says a lot about how seriously safety standards are taken on site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I got top marks in tea making and my instructor told me he's never met anyone who can lean on a shovel as well as I can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭CountingCrows


    I remember doing the FAS Safe Pass course (slightly different to the courses in the news at the moment, I know). I was the only girl, and the only archaeologist in a testosterone-filled room of construction workers.

    After an entire day of completely useless info about circular saws, JCBs and other construction related stuff, only 2 people got 18 out of 18 questions right: myself (who has never been near a circular saw in my life and offended that they didn't cover the dangers of trowelling;)) and one other guy.

    Five...yes FIVE people failed it completely. Now these questions are the easiest in the world to answer, and most of the people in the room had been in construction for years. The instructor brought them through the test again, and some still failed. Third time around he went something like this: 'Is the answer A, B, C (nod and wink) or D?'

    Says a lot about how seriously safety standards are taken on site.

    Wasn't one of those safe pass questions how to check a tunnel for gas. Can't remember if you were meant to send a bird or a immigrant in first? :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I actually did a FAS course once but it wasn't for a qualification and I had to pay them to allow me to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    I was on a construction course in Fas. the instructor asked me if I could make a pot of tea, I said yes. he then asked me if I could drive a fork lift. I asked him in reply how big the pot of tea was. I failed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭Atwork


    I was on a construction course in Fas. the instructor asked me if I could make a pot of tea, I said yes. he then asked me if I could drive a fork lift. I asked him in reply how big the pot of tea was. I failed.

    Yes, Yes you do!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Not everybody is academically briliant. It's not fair to say somebody is a clutz if they fail a fas exam. They might kick your ass when it comes to engines, or building or the likes, but useless at learning from a book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,566 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Do know one or two people that failed exams in fas, they weren't outsourced courses though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    You should move to the north east.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Shoop


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I got top marks in tea making and my instructor told me he's never met anyone who can lean on a shovel as well as I can.

    Is that a euphemism?:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Medievalist


    Wasn't one of those safe pass questions how to check a tunnel for gas. Can't remember if you were meant to send a bird or a immigrant in first? :confused:

    Whichever is cheaper by the hour...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭Dean820


    My cousin's teacher would just let them surf the web all day. Its just a way to get people off the dole for awhile. And yes, he passed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Long Onion


    Not everybody is academically briliant. It's not fair to say somebody is a clutz if they fail a fas exam. They might kick your ass when it comes to engines, or building or the likes, but useless at learning from a book.


    Clutz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Put it this way i dont know a thing outside the trade based courses but i will say this there is a reason Ireland does quite well at the skills competition most years . Trades wise there are some brilliant instrctors working at fas , there are a few bad ones too that dont give a ****e but the majority of them are great instructors especially in the bigger centers i.e cork dublin .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Shoop wrote: »
    Is that a euphemism?:D
    Na, it was only a two day course. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭tony 2 tone


    Wasn't one of those safe pass questions how to check a tunnel for gas. Can't remember if you were meant to send a bird or a immigrant in first? :confused:

    You put a swan in first to encourage the foreigners to go in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    As an employer, exam results don't matter much compared to ability and competence, i've trained better joiners who never went to FAS.


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