If everyone knew mathematics...

Flamed Diving

... then there would be no crime. I mean, how many scientists end up committing crimes? Exactly.


This fine logic I overheard on the number 10 bus leaving UCD for town. No joking around, this guy was serious.

Is it time to introduce some kind of social philosophy module into science degrees?

blackbetty69

what about joe bloggs who goes in to rob a bank?? sure, hes no mathematician, but hes well able to calculate how much he robbed, so he knows a little maths at least... which contradicts your statement

Flamed Diving

blackbetty69 wrote: »

what about joe bloggs who goes in to rob a bank?? sure, hes no mathematician, but hes well able to calculate how much he robbed, so he knows a little maths at least... which contradicts your statement

My statement?

Burning Eclipse

blackbetty69 wrote: »

what about joe bloggs who goes in to rob a bank?? sure, hes no mathematician, but hes well able to calculate how much he robbed, so he knows a little maths at least... which contradicts your statement

I'd say read the OP again...

And yes, all college courses need some level of diversity!

Fremen

Easy way to refute that logic.
Show him you can solve a constant-coefficient second order ordinary differential equation, then *BAM*. Fork in the eye.

cavedave

How much would crime decrease?

Lets say mathematicians have higher IQ's than the average person. This seems backed up by evidence here and here. This is not about IQ having any particular meaning other then how it correlates with crime.

There is data on how IQ correlates to violent crime here. It is quite possible that the IQ crime correlation is actually to do with the affluencing inducing the Flynn effect.

So say everyones IQ increased two standard deviations how much would violent crime go down?

Fremen

cavedave wrote: »

So say everyones IQ increased two standard deviations how much would violent crime go down?

You're neglecting the "Evil genius peak". As IQ rises above 170 or so, so does the proclivity to build doomsday devices in massive underground fortresses guarded by henchmen who can't shoot straight.

sponsoredwalk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Degayev
http://www.newstatesman.com/200305120044

I guess this person on the bus didn't do his math's when he proclaimed this golden nugget of "truth".

+ we all know Einstein invented the bomb with his E=(k)mc^2...

ugliest

Maybe it should be, if everyone studied mathematics, there'd be no crime.

The 1337 mathematicians would use their power to rise to the top! That and an awful lot of mathematicians aren't that power hungry. Oftentimes they're busy thinking of loftier topics. Maths can be terribly distracting. I'd say it might even out, to those who wanted power could usurp it easily.

If everyone was busy collaboratively searching for absolute truth (we all know the answer lies in maths), then we would be far too busy for wards and the likes. Also, everyone would be relatively poor, but happy.

For that to happen though, mathematicians must indeed rule the world, and to do that, we must people as many wmd's as possible. To the laboratories my brethren! We must build a utopia!

hinduhamster

......they would carry the 1.

sponsoredwalk

Lol sounds a lot like Plato talking about the philosopher kings of Ancient Greece. Personally I await a contemporary cosmopolitan Diogenese of Sinope to restore balance to the world, Idk if he was a Geometer tho...

Pherekydes

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

+ we all know Einstein invented the bomb with his E=(k)mc^2...

The bomb was invented long before Einstein drew breath. Unless of course you're referring to the atomic bomb, but he didn't invent that either.

Flamed Diving

Pherekydes wrote: »

The bomb was invented long before Einstein drew breath. Unless of course you're referring to the atomic bomb, but he didn't invent that either.

If you are going to blame Einstein, you may as well blame the Curies...

:rolleyes:

Pherekydes

Flamed Diving wrote: »

If you are going to blame Einstein, you may as well blame the Curies...

:rolleyes:

Your rolleyes are misplaced. The other poster was blaming Einstein.

sponsoredwalk

Truth be told Feynman did it. Or was it the nazi's? No I think it was the Chineese and their gunpowder lol... But no, it was e=mc^2, definitely His fault... Why couldn't he NOT be a mathematician, we'd all be out of this mess and be taugth philosophy and hyperbolic geometry by a bus-philosopher-power-usurping-ubermansch...

Flamed Diving

Pherekydes wrote: »

Your rolleyes are misplaced.

No, only in your head.

Pherekydes wrote: »

The other poster was blaming Einstein.

I knew that.

Pherekydes

Flamed Diving wrote: »

I knew that.

If that was the case then why quote me? :rolleyes:

Flamed Diving

Pherekydes wrote: »

If that was the case then why quote me? :rolleyes:

I was seconding what you were saying.

Pherekydes = must... think... harder...

Pherekydes

Flamed Diving wrote: »

I was seconding what you were saying.

Pherekydes = must... think... harder...

Back me up by quoting my post and adding rolleyes at the end? LOL

Flamed Diving = must stop flaming and diving and learn how to quote the right poster.

Flamed Diving

Pherekydes wrote: »

Back me up by quoting my post and adding rolleyes at the end? LOL

Flamed Diving = must stop flaming and diving and learn how to quote the right poster.

I really don't have time for childrens games. Please stop.

Pherekydes

Flamed Diving wrote: »

I really don't have time for childrens games. Please stop.

I did stop with my last post. You started again. Children's games? LOL

sponsoredwalk

I guess you two aren't mathematician then...



(don't quote me on it;))

Pherekydes

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

I guess you two aren't mathematician then...

Don't guess...




P.S. We're not the one mathematician if that's what you're trying to say.

LeixlipRed

Flamed Diving, infracted for flaming. Pherekydes you should know better, just ignore him.