Rights when being bulllied at a course?

Anonymous8847

Hi I am sorry if this is in the wrong forum I am new and couldn't find anywhere in the education section.

I was wondering what my rights are if I am being bullied at a course I am attending. I go there from 9-5 everyday except Fridays when I am off at 1 o clock and because it is a FAS course I receive an allowance (Not saying to boast, Its to help explain my situation). So when I am in the course I am getting verbally bullied everyday and every time I say something. I have stopped asking questions when we are doing work because the people always pass comments such as "God there stupid" but they say it to each other in such a volume that I can hear and I am meant to hear. There is two of them by the way. They cause messes in the workplace and blame it on me, resulting in the instructor giving out to me and making me clean there mess while they look on and laugh about it. This has gone on for a long time with various incidents happening but because theres 2 of them and 1 of me they very often get away with it.

So I am asking what are my rights? I know the FAS allowance is not great but I need it to survive and I really want to get this course done because I hope to go further and have a career out of it. But this is really holding me back and I find myself losing out a lot because of them. I was told by another person in a different course that if I was to complain about it and then not attend because of the uncomfort they make me feel that they cannot dock it from my allowance on those grounds and I can remain unattending the course until the manager or instructor resolves the situation.

Can anyone advise me on my rights please and if this is the wrong forum I apologize again and if its moved can a Moderator please PM me the location its been moved to.

Thank you very much for reading.

stevoman

Anonymous8847 wrote: »

Hi I am sorry if this is in the wrong forum I am new and couldn't find anywhere in the education section.

I was wondering what my rights are if I am being bullied at a course I am attending. I go there from 9-5 everyday except Fridays when I am off at 1 o clock and because it is a FAS course I receive an allowance (Not saying to boast, Its to help explain my situation). So when I am in the course I am getting verbally bullied everyday and every time I say something. I have stopped asking questions when we are doing work because the people always pass comments such as "God there stupid" but they say it to each other in such a volume that I can hear and I am meant to hear. There is two of them by the way. They cause messes in the workplace and blame it on me, resulting in the instructor giving out to me and making me clean there mess while they look on and laugh about it. This has gone on for a long time with various incidents happening but because theres 2 of them and 1 of me they very often get away with it.

So I am asking what are my rights? I know the FAS allowance is not great but I need it to survive and I really want to get this course done because I hope to go further and have a career out of it. But this is really holding me back and I find myself losing out a lot because of them. I was told by another person in a different course that if I was to complain about it and then not attend because of the uncomfort they make me feel that they cannot dock it from my allowance on those grounds and I can remain unattending the course until the manager or instructor resolves the situation.

Can anyone advise me on my rights please and if this is the wrong forum I apologize again and if its moved can a Moderator please PM me the location its been moved to.

Thank you very much for reading.

OP sorry for your troubles.

i just hope a mod can move it to a more apt part of boards and get you some answers.

General Zod

Speak with your lecturer about what is happening.

gerTheGreat

Go to the head of the course and put in a formal complaint. They are obliged to investige the issue if a complain is made.

~me~

id say you might get better answers in the personal issues section.

speak to a tutor/instructor about it. dont stop going cause of a few idiots that'll go nowhere in life. if they still feel the need to bully people then they're never gonna grow up, they'll still be idiots when you've got a good career.

hope you get it sorted.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Moved from After Hours. I think you'll find more helpful answers here, OP.

me-skywalker

Stare at them in the eyes, intensly, right into the blacks, and liiiick your lips


Seriously, tell them to cop the fck on! its not school its a valuable service to help people re-educate and train. Speak to a liason officer in the place or a course director...

WindSock

I'm surprised your teacher hasn't noticed. But if they haven't, it is up to yourself to bring it to their or their superiors attention. No one has the right to make you feel uncomfortable in class. You have every right to an education and you must know that you don't have to drop out because of this. You must make the step. Contact someone you trust that works there to make them aware of the situation. Cases of bullying are always taken very seriously.

Is there a class rep? Do you have any friends in the class, or anyone you can talk to about it? It might help if you can talk to a friend in the class about how you are feeling.

WindSock

And there is a saying I always remember (much to the annoyance of everyone else in my class )

'The person who asks a question may seem a fool for a few minutes. The person who never asks, is a fool forever.'

Anonymous8847

Thank you all who posted helping me.

I have tried saying it to the main instructor but because there is 2 of them and 1 of myself the instructor believes them over me and I usually get the worse end of it. Also If the instructor was to get in trouble for not taking action over these incidents (If I take this matter to a higher power) then I feel it could make things much worse for me in the course.

Should I report it to the FAS officer who initially placed me in the course? The person in charge of the course is usually very busy. I know I should say it to someone in charge but going by past incidents on how I reported the incident and ended up coming out the worse end of it I feel like going to a higher power could have worse consequences for me.

Thanks again for the replies, Does anybody have a link regarding my rights? Namely the one about not attending until the matter is looked in to and resolved, I haven't heard anything about it before but it seems plausible.

humanji

Tell the instructor that the two of them are bullying you. He didn't believe you before, but point out every incident that has happened that you can remember. If he refusees to do anything tell him that you will be going over his head. If he still does nothing then talk to the guy in charge of the course. With a lot of FAS courses the instructors are random people called in to do the course, so the guy in charge isn't going to have any sort of allegience to the instructor.

Also, is there anyone else in the course who would back you up at all? It might be handy to have them on your side too.

Kipperhell

I have friends who are instructors and they don't take these things lightly. They have told me stories of bullying on courses. If you were to say that you were being picked on they would take it seriously. If however you were saying that you weren't responsible for something and somebody else was they would be less likely to listen. The difference being one appears to be petty arguing and the other is of great concern.

You should never threaten anybody with an action like going "over" them. You explain the situation and if there is no action you then talk again then go over them without telling them. An instructor is not going to bully you for talking to their boss and are more likely to make sure you are happy.

No instructor wants bullying going on or will permit it. I have more horror stories from instructors on trainee behaviour than I would imagine. Some people on the courses are extremely childish including over sensitive people. Fas staff have seen it all.

The officer who placed you has nothing to do with the courses running. The instructor has a manger and they are the person you would need to go to. The instructor is the person in charge of the course. If you go to the manager it will go into the formal procedure and it will be agreed about attendance. If you ask your instructor to go the formal route he will too as nobody in their right mind wouldn't.

It really comes down to are you sure you told the instructor you are being bullied and he then did nothing?

Black And Proud

Anonymous8847 wrote: »

Hi I am sorry if this is in the wrong forum I am new and couldn't find anywhere in the education section.

I was wondering what my rights are if I am being bullied at a course I am attending. I go there from 9-5 everyday except Fridays when I am off at 1 o clock and because it is a FAS course I receive an allowance (Not saying to boast, Its to help explain my situation). So when I am in the course I am getting verbally bullied everyday and every time I say something. I have stopped asking questions when we are doing work because the people always pass comments such as "God there stupid" but they say it to each other in such a volume that I can hear and I am meant to hear. There is two of them by the way. They cause messes in the workplace and blame it on me, resulting in the instructor giving out to me and making me clean there mess while they look on and laugh about it. This has gone on for a long time with various incidents happening but because theres 2 of them and 1 of me they very often get away with it.

So I am asking what are my rights? I know the FAS allowance is not great but I need it to survive and I really want to get this course done because I hope to go further and have a career out of it. But this is really holding me back and I find myself losing out a lot because of them. I was told by another person in a different course that if I was to complain about it and then not attend because of the uncomfort they make me feel that they cannot dock it from my allowance on those grounds and I can remain unattending the course until the manager or instructor resolves the situation.

Can anyone advise me on my rights please and if this is the wrong forum I apologize again and if its moved can a Moderator please PM me the location its been moved to.

Thank you very much for reading.

Sorry to hear about your troubles OP. You should force this issue with your Course leader. But you should also take time to reflect upon yourself. By your own words you have let this go on for a while and that is a bad situation when it comes to being bullied or picked on.

I think you would feel much better and benefit more if you some how handled this situation by yourself. You sound like how I used to be. I was to quite to cause a stir and was in a similar situation. But I took time out to look at what was happening and engineered a situation where I made the people picking on me look like fools and at the same time made it clear I was not to be picked on.

Maybe the next time they mess the place up you can just stand up and ask loudly "What the hell did you do that for?" So what if you are bringing attention to yourself? Bring the attention so you can show it is not you messing the place up. Turn the focus on them.

That type of approach is one that you can only judge by your own circumstances but it is something you can rehearse, if you know what I mean?

Easier said that done but you would benefit more in the long run and gain a lot of confidence by sticking up for yourself.

Don't be losing out because of them, as you said.

Riddle101

Your rights when being bullied at a course apply to any type of bullying, whether it be at school, work or college. If you have a problem with the people. Tell the people in charge what's going on. Don't allow yourself to be pushed around by the people who are bullying you because it's what the want. I'd even confront them over it but I'd advise you to just talk to someone about it, the manager or the instructor, just don't allow people to take advantage of you like that, i've seen it happen in my old school to other people and it dosen't work out unless you confront the issue.

WindSock

Black And Proud wrote: »

Maybe the next time they mess the place up you can just stand up and ask loudly "What the hell did you do that for?" So what if you are bringing attention to yourself? Bring the attention so you can show it is not you messing the place up. Turn the focus on them.

That type of approach is one that you can only judge by your own circumstances but it is something you can rehearse, if you know what I mean?

Easier said that done but you would benefit more in the long run and gain a lot of confidence by sticking up for yourself.

Don't be losing out because of them, as you said.

This I agree with. Asserting yourself will show these goons up. If they make noises next time you ask a question, maybe turn around to them and ask them to explain, seeing as they know all the answers.

straricco

Sorry to hear you are being bullied. I have just finished legal exams and brushed on this topic. The school can be held liable for the actions of the students if you have told them & they don't take action to protect you. As advised above, tell your class tutor/head of course and if they don't react tell them you will take legal advice and you can bet they will sort it out promptly for you. But I honestly think bullying to taken very seriously these days if reported. Good luck.