Is O'Donoghue gonna pay back his excessive expenses?

unkel

I mean, 174 internal flights between Dublin and Kerry. Often while his chauffeur driven limousine (at his disposal 24/7) was sent up front to Kerry anyway to pick him up at the airport? 44 internal flights for his wife? All of that is taking the complete p1ss tbh.

Shouldn't be too difficult to objectively establish what are normal and what are excessive expenses and to recoup the latter from all civil servants, like politicians?

walshb

Yes, on April 1st!

General Zod

of course he's not. and he's going to be reelected by the people of Kerry South because people are sheep.

techdiver

General Zod wrote: »

of course he's not. and he's going to be reelected by the people of Kerry South because people are sheep.

Exactly. The country does not deserve to get out of the mess it's in with a voting public so keen to ignore facts and vote in the usual tribal way as has always been the case.

As the old saying goes - "You get the government you deserve!"

kmick

Why would he - sure according to his speech he did nothing wrong? Why do want to punish an innocent man? Him and OJ both innocent I say.

walshb

All one needs to do is watch and listen to that man from yesterday and see
how sorry or repentant he is. A horrible piece of sh!t he is. That will tell you that he will not attempt to pay back a cent to the Irish public

stevoman

unkel wrote: »

Shouldn't be too difficult to objectively establish what are normal and what are excessive expenses and to recoup the latter from all civil servants, like politicians?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA PAUSES FOR BREATH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

funk-you

unkel wrote: »

Is O'Donoghue gonna pay back his excessive expenses?

Will he fuck.

-Funk

admiralofthefleet

i dont agree with the expenses he ran up but under the terms of his office he did nothing wrong so i cant see him paying back a cent

gerTheGreat

ASAIK he didn't break any rules, so he doesn't have to. If he had any decency he would, but I doubt that he will.

walshb

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i dont agree with the expenses he ran up but under the terms of his office he did nothing wrong so i cant see him paying back a cent

A horribly bent and corrupt office at that. So, he did wrong, wrong by the Irish public.
Hiding behind "legalities" doesn't cut it!

BTW, surely as Ceann, he did do wrong by still claiming massively for
trips not related to his position?

Mr Magnolia

The sooner the revenue investigate the better.

gerTheGreat

Morally wrong is not the same as illegal. I think everyone agrees that what he did was morally wrong.

walshb

gerTheGreat wrote: »

Morally wrong is not the same as illegal. I think everyone agrees that what he did was morally wrong.

I would say morally despicable. The finders keepers mentality.

Sizzler

We are only mere taxpayers, who are we to decide anything, isnt that the policy he has adopted. :rolleyes:

The clowns that are incessantly defending him as well and portraying him as some sort of sacrifical lamb should also be taken to task as they obviously think its OK to piss 750K up against the wall for over a number of years.

He said he wasnt allow "due process" or "explain" but yet every media outlet in the country that wanted to speak to him for the last month were basically told to fcuk off by him as he didnt feel he had to comment. What an arrogant pox.

Biggins

No - he is not - and I will tell you EXACTLY why.

He will not have to payback anything because if he does, that will set a precedent for any others that might be (and are to some degree also) milking the system.
The last thing any of the crooks in the Dail want is to start this trend. It could eventually effect them too! and they know it only too well!

So they are
(a) hoping the public will shut the hell up about expenses and the issue will die away quietly
(b) letting the man away with his antics
(c) giving/allowing him a nice handsome payout(off!) - some say for keeping his mouth shut!

sceptre

I'm rather glad that his house doesn't have a moat that needed cleaning.

Fat_Fingers

yep

LookingFor

I'm pretty shocked this wasn't immediately jumped on, that people didn't immediately start lobbying for this.

In the UK mps have had to pay back even small excess expense claims. Here we have people running up expenses in the hundreds of thousands and we seem OK to let it slip by without any repayment?

He has a fat salary as a TD and will have a fat pension too. Let him repay it.

aidan24326

Biggins wrote: »

No - he is not - and I will tell you EXACTLY why.

He will not have to payback anything because if he does, that will set a precedent for any others that might be (and are to some degree also) milking the system.
The last thing any of the crooks in the Dail want is to start this trend. It could eventually effect them too! and they know it only too well!

You can be quite certain there's a fair few politicos on both sides of the house who don't want this can of worms opened wide the way it was in England, John O'Donoghue may have been the worst offender but I'm sure he wasn't the only one.

The Tribune revealed that Mary Harney clocked up 730,000 euro in air travel expenses over just a couple of years. The reason? She inisisted on taking the hugely expensive government jet to just about everywhere, even when ordinary commercial flights were readily available. Her highness Lady Harney is obviously far too important to travel with us mere commoners.

As someone else mentioned, John O'Donoghue used to order the government jet to whisk him around Ireland and beyond to every sort of function, sports event and whatever jolly took his fancy, even though he already has a state Merc with TWO well-paid garda drivers (they work alternating weeks).

Bertie also stayed in the Dorchester Hotel in London once at a cost of 2,400 euro for ONE night. He obviously must have been staying in some super-exclusive Presidential Suite or something, only the finest for our Bertie. Charlie taught him well.

These people clearly see all of this as their entitlement, they don't live in the same world as the rest of the plebs nor will they ever. It's complete and utter contempt for the people they supposedly represent.

The_Kew_Tour

If he was any decent he would but think we have better chance of Pope saying he muslim being honest

DrumSteve

he will in his hole.

unkel

LookingFor wrote: »

I'm pretty shocked this wasn't immediately jumped on, that people didn't immediately start lobbying for this.

In the UK mps have had to pay back even small excess expense claims. Here we have people running up expenses in the hundreds of thousands and we seem OK to let it slip by without any repayment?

He has a fat salary as a TD and will have a fat pension too. Let him repay it.

My sentiments exactly. Seems to be working fine in the UK. We demand the same be done here.

marcsignal

Well the arrogance of FF never ceases to amaze me, but whats worse is the fact that bonuses are still being paid out to failures. Today a HSE executive got his bonus despite the fact we have a 3rd world healthcare system, thats failing the people of Ireland more and more every day.

Then Cowan gets on the box again and again and explains why these people are 'special exceptions' because of blah blah blah. He then, tonight, had the fucking CHEEK to insult our collective intelligence, by saying:

"This will be the last bonus of its kind to be paid out by the HSE"


EH ?? HELLO !! HELLO !! THERE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BONUSES LIKE THIS PAID TO ANYONE !!!!! :mad::mad::mad:

Having said all that, we only have ourselves to blame, because we're not like the French....

If this was France, Leinster House would be burning right now !!

rant over /

ShooterSF

Why would he? At best the Irish public is too lethargic to pressure him at worst they'll probably elect him as a TD!
As for the government forcing him. I'd doubt the want to upset him as two words come to mind. Canary and sing.