Hitlers Skull not Hitlers ??

marcsignal · 12-10-2009 5:16pm #1

According to American scientists the skull believed to be Adolf's is a female skull ?

Full *cough "Sky News" article here..

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Adolf-Hitler-Skull-Not-His-But-A-Womans-Says-US-Bone-Specialist-Nick-Bellantoni/Article/200909415393951?lpos=World_News_Second_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_6&lid=ARTICLE_15393951_Adolf_Hitler%3A_Skull_Not_His_But_A_Womans%2C_Says_US_Bone_Specialist_Nick_Bellantoni

A skull long believed to be that of Adolf Hitler actually belonged to a woman, according to an American scientist who has taken DNA samples from it.

The skull was taken by Soviet forces in 1945 when they found charred remains outside the Nazi dictator's bunker in Berlin.

The Russians said at the time that the findings backed claims that Hitler had shot himself on April 30, 1945, and then been cremated along with his wife, Eva Braun.

Now, however, archaeologist and bone specialist Nick Bellantoni says the skull really belonged to a woman aged under 40 and not Hitler - who was 56 when he died.

Neither does Mr Bellantoni believe the skull belongs to Braun, Hitler's long-time girlfriend and last-minute wife, who is thought to have killed herself by taking cyanide and would therefore not have had a bullet wound - as this skull has.

The Russians say they have never claimed the skull itself was the chief reason for their belief the skull was Hitler's.

Instead, they point to dental records as confirmation that Hitler killed himself.

Some historians have believed for years that the Nazi dictator did not die in Berlin.

"There is no forensic evidence whatsoever that Hitler died in the bunker," historian and journalist Gerrard Williams told Sky News Online.

"The Nazi high command had been making plans since 1943 to get out of Germany and to set up a Fourth Reich mainly in South America so they had no need to die in situ in Germany.

"There was a very effective route out of Germany to South America and the Nazis had help from various factions, in particular a Croatian cardinal from the Vatican called Alois Hudel.

"As for the dental records, they were destroyed on the orders of Martin Borman in 1944. So there were no records on top Nazi leaders with which to compare the charred findings."

One reason why there was such a belief at the end of World War II that the skull was Hitler's, Mr Williams suggests, is that everyone needed Hitler to be dead.

"Everyone wanted to close the chapter very quickly because, of course, the Cold War was just starting up. It was convenient, that's all."

Dr Strange · 12-10-2009 6:00pm

I'll wait till the results are published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. Until then....

the_syco · 12-10-2009 11:54pm

MysteryQuests first episode was about "Hitlers Escape". It also explains a lot about this "theory".

FiSe · 13-10-2009 9:13am

It's a well known fact, Hitler and Elvis are best mates :rolleyes:

Seriously, the presumed Hitler's skull might not be his as I can imagine there were a quite a few burned human remains around the Berlin and Reichscanclerei and there even could have been a few shallow graves around the same spot, nevertheless, I do not believe that there is some sort of mystery hanging above his death.

ejmaztec · 15-10-2009 12:12pm

Perhaps Hitler was a woman? He/she was a moody bugger after all, and not very good with maps. :eek:

Dr Strange · 15-10-2009 1:40pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Perhaps Hitler was a woman? He/she was a moody bugger after all, and not very good with maps. :eek:

Hm, could be, also had a problem with shaving, i.e. he/she always left a spot under the nose. Damn feminine facial hairs.

kowloon · 17-10-2009 5:38pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Perhaps Hitler was a woman? He/she was a moody bugger after all, and not very good with maps. :eek:

Proof enough for me.

marcsignal · 17-10-2009 6:32pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Perhaps Hitler was a woman? He/she was a moody bugger after all, and not very good with maps. :eek:

kowloon wrote: »

Proof enough for me.

you could be on to something there,

spiteful, frequently changed his mind at a moments notice for no apparent reason, always wanted the biggest and most expensive stuff in the shop armoury, couldn't drive, afaik ..... better just stop there ....:pac:

imme · 18-10-2009 7:18pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Perhaps Hitler was a woman? He/she was a moody bugger after all, and not very good with maps. :eek:

FiSe · 11-12-2009 10:18pm

Could be an old news, but have just read that Hitler's remains, together with remains of Eva Braun-Hitler and Goebbels family were cremated near Magdeburg by the KGB in 1970 and ashes thrown into Biederitz river.

And although current Russian 'KGB' insist that the alleged Hitler's skull in their archive is really, but really his, I, personally, doubt it a lot, after seeing this news...