Best MMA Camps in the World

WildIrish

Just wondering what MMA Camps people consider been the best in the world

ChristyCent

Stu Hart's Dungeon..

Tim_Murphy

Big Bear. Definitely.

Jason Mc

What exactly is at Big Bear?

Odats

Jason Mc wrote: »

What exactly is at Big Bear?

Big bear is a high altitude training location in the mountains in California. Oscar Dela hoya trains there as does Tito Ortiz and Rampage before he went to Wolfslair. Eat sleep and train kinda place

I think the OP is referring to the best training camp as in a gym set up in which case it would be either Jacksons or ATT.

Tim_Murphy

Jason Mc wrote: »

What exactly is at Big Bear?

I have no idea but Tito Ortiz goes on about it all the time so it must be good. :pac:

Jarren

SBG all the way

Tim_Murphy

jarecki1976 wrote: »

SBG all the way

I've a lot of time for SBG, I've done a LOT of training with various SBG heads, but they don't to my knowledge have many (any?) top level MMA competitors.

Johnny Drama.

Xtreme Couture

http://www.xtremecouture.tv/

Jason Mc

If I had a choice I would go to either

Cotoure's
Greg Nelson and Paulsons
or Chute Boxe

Jarren

Tim_Murphy wrote: »

I've a lot of time for SBG, I've done a LOT of training with various SBG heads, but they don't to my knowledge have many (any?) top level MMA competitors.

well Tom Egan http://thetankegan.com/

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055457768

I think that he is top level fighter:)

Tim_Murphy

jarecki1976 wrote: »

well Tom Egan http://thetankegan.com/

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055457768

I think that he is top level fighter:)

am I feeding a troll?

Odats

Tim_Murphy wrote: »

am I feeding a troll?

Yes

Jarren

Tim_Murphy wrote: »

am I feeding a troll?

Nope but nice try:rolleyes:


http://gentoo-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/please-do-not-feed-the-troll.jpg

Killme00

Jacksons MMA, Albaquerque New Mexico. <- this is a fullstop

AARRRGH

jarecki1976 wrote: »

Nope but nice try:rolleyes:

Tom Egan is not a "top level MMA competitor". If you want to say he is a "top level MMA competitor", no problem, we are in agreement.

My problem with Xtreme Couture is that it's a franchise, so the quality may not be consistent in each gym.

Jarren

AARRRGH wrote: »

Tom Egan is not a "top level MMA competitor". If you want to say he is a "top level MMA competitor", no problem, we are in agreement.

My problem with Xtreme Couture is that it's a franchise, so the quality may not be consistent in each gym.

Ok my mistake:o

siochain

AARRRGH wrote: »

Tom Egan is not a "top level MMA competitor". If you want to say he is a "top level MMA competitor", no problem, we are in agreement.

and now your going to let us know about your vast and extensive mma record and experience.................... :rolleyes:

AARRRGH

siochain wrote: »

and now your going to let us know about your vast and extensive mma record and experience.................... :rolleyes:

How is my MMA record in any way relevant?

ginoginelli

Greg Neslons definetly desrves a mention.

scudzilla

I'd say Greg Jackson's camp (minus the vaseline :rolleyes::rolleyes:)

subvictory

AARRRGH wrote: »

Tom Egan is not a "top level MMA competitor". If you want to say he is a "top level MMA competitor", no problem, we are in agreement.

My problem with Xtreme Couture is that it's a franchise, so the quality may not be consistent in each gym.

W@nker.

cletus

with regards to the Tom Egan comments on the thread, I would imagine that people are considering a "top level MMA competitor" to be somebody who competes and can hold their own with the best in the world at their weight class on a regular and consistant basis, thus GSP, Anderson Silva etc.

In this sense, Tom is not a "top level MMA competitor", nor is it an insult to say so

_oveless

These things change all the time, Camp Miletich at one point had 3 UFC world champs under one roof, now they're profile isn't so high. As for the other thing, I think people are being too defensive, Egan would be top level in Ireland no doubt, maybe Europe, but not world level just yet. Discussing local fighters isn't allowed by the rules anyway (i think).

AARRRGH

subvictory wrote: »

W@nker.

Do you really think he is a top level MMA competitor and that I'm just being mean?

Or does it upset you that I am being realistic?

siochain

AARRRGH wrote: »

How is my MMA record in any way relevant?

to be able to class who and who isn't top class either locally, nationally or internationally.

koking

I think the blackhouse deserves a mention but not sure if it is still goin, it had anderson silva, lyoto machida, vitor belfort, big nog to name a few

siochain

AARRRGH wrote: »

Do you really think he is a top level MMA competitor and that I'm just being mean?/QUOTE]

Yes nationally and I have no doubt the best is yet to come.

AARRRGH wrote: »

Or does it upset you that I am being realistic?

Maybe its the history of bashing the fighter in question here, do I recall a banning for it in the past.

AARRRGH

siochain wrote: »

to be able to class who and who isn't top class either locally, nationally or internationally.

I do not need to be a top level MMA competitor to understand who is or isn't a top level MMA competitor.

You're not making any sense.

siochain wrote: »

Maybe its the history of bashing the fighter in question here, do I recall a banning for it in the past.

You have me confused with someone else.

The only time I have ever said anything negative about any fighter in this forum is when I questioned Tom promoting his religion on his website. As someone with an interest in marketing, I did not think it was a good move.

I would love if he becomes a great, successful fighter, but he is not at that stage yet.

cletus

siochain wrote: »

AARRRGH wrote: »

Do you really think he is a top level MMA competitor and that I'm just being mean?/QUOTE]

Yes nationally and I have no doubt the best is yet to come.



Maybe its the history of bashing the fighter in question here, do I recall a banning for it in the past.

Stating that a fighter is not a top level competitor (he's not) is not fighter bashing, simply putting forward an opinion

siochain wrote: »

to be able to class who and who isn't top class either locally, nationally or internationally.

have you ever watced any professional sport and passed comment on it? that what fans do, all the time, or do you think that the only people allowed to discuss the UFC and its fighters, should be those who have competed professionally, or better yet, only those who have competed in the UFC itself.

Roper

Blackhouse, Jackson's camp and probably MFS even though the guys from there have fallen from grace slightly.

Just for the record, I don't want to get involved with the other debate, but if you're a public figure, then you are there to be commented on, good and bad. And I say that as someone who knows and likes Tom. I think it's fair to say that the guys defending him train at his gym or are his mates.

scudzilla

I think Egan is a great prospect but not an MMA great (yet), he was totally owned by Hathaway, but i'm sure he'll be back and much better for it

Killme00

Judging a fighter based on one fight makes the baby jesus cry. C'mon guys give it a rest.

AARRRGH

Killme00 wrote: »

Judging a fighter based on one fight makes the baby jesus cry. C'mon guys give it a rest.

I don't think anyone's judging him based on one fight. He simply hasn't done enough yet to prove himself as a top level figher. What's his pro record, 3 wins and 2 losses or something like that?

We're not insulting him, we're just being realistic.

Maybe the problem is people have different definitions of "top level". For me, top level is literally top level, so it would be someone who can compete with the very best from the UFC.

Anyway, we should probably make a new thread rather than continuining to derail this one.

Killme00

AARRRGH wrote: »

Maybe the problem is people have different definitions of "top level". For me, top level is literally top level, so it would be someone who can compete with the very best from the UFC.

I agree that the top level would be fighters of the caliber of consisent winners in the UFC, WEC, Dream, Strikeforce, Cage Rage etc. I just dont think there is any need to argue about Tom Egan (on both sides), why cant he just be allowed to get back in the ring/cage and get on with it.

Also by Irish standards i think the guys in SBG would be at the top along with EFR.
*disclaimer* this is based on the very small sample of fight nights that i have been to (Fight before Christmas, Rumble in Rush, Ultimate Conflict, Rings lol and what i have seen online if Irish fighters).

subvictory

AARRRGH wrote: »

Do you really think he is a top level MMA competitor and that I'm just being mean?

Or does it upset you that I am being realistic?

No, I'm Just pointing out that you sound like a rosette winning knob with your strike through lark. Your not being smart or clever, just a dick.

siochain

cletus wrote: »

siochain wrote: »

Stating that a fighter is not a top level competitor (he's not) is not fighter bashing, simply putting forward an opinion





have you ever watced any professional sport and passed comment on it? that what fans do, all the time, or do you think that the only people allowed to discuss the UFC and its fighters, should be those who have competed professionally, or better yet, only those who have competed in the UFC itself.

Yeah you have a point, I have no issues with anyone making an informed comment but yes I do have an issue with arm chair MMA experts who have seen a few TUF's and a few UFC's and reckon they know it all judging a competitor. When they have no idea the pain and sweat it takes to compete at a high level, no idea what it takes to step onto a mat or into a ring and face someone one on one at any level.

Tim_Murphy

:rolleyes: @ the amount of knickers in twists on this thread.

Tom isn't a top level fighter by any definition. Saying that isn't being a dick, it is just stating the obvious. Some people seem to forget that he's only had a few fights. I don't even think he has fought any of the top Irish guys at his weight, though I could be wrong on that. Let him get back competing and maybe he'll become a top level guy. Fair play to him if he does, it would be great to see more Irish guys get a shot at the big time. He is fighting in that show in Mayo next month, why don't you guys stop arguing and go buy some tickets, it looks like a great card.

Tim_Murphy

Yeah you have a point, I have no issues with anyone making an informed comment but yes I do have an issue with arm chair MMA experts who have seen a few TUF's and a few UFC's and reckon they know it all judging a competitor. When they have no idea the pain and sweat it takes to compete at a high level, no idea what it takes to step onto a mat or into a ring and face someone one on one at any level.

True that, but it's the nature of spectator sports that people will comment on it. If people pay however much it cost for a UFC ticket in the point then they are entitiled to have an opinion on the fights.

AARRRGH

subvictory wrote: »

No, I'm Just pointing out that you sound like a rosette winning knob with your strike through lark. Your not being smart or clever, just a dick.

I'm not trying to be smart or clever, and I have to say I'm qiote puzzled that you are interpreting my posts that way. I just don't see any point in pretending Tom is a top level fighter - no one benefits from that.

If you can't understand this, or honestly can't see that Tom isn't a top level fighter, well you should stop posting because you're just embarrassing yourself.

Ramunas

Shute boxe

AARRRGH

siochain wrote: »

Yeah you have a point, I have no issues with anyone making an informed comment but yes I do have an issue with arm chair MMA experts who have seen a few TUF's and a few UFC's and reckon they know it all judging a competitor. When they have no idea the pain and sweat it takes to compete at a high level, no idea what it takes to step onto a mat or into a ring and face someone one on one at any level.

You don't need to feel pain in the ring to be able to spot the difference between someone who is a top level fighter and someone who isn't.

It's not exactly rocket science.

Listen, you're obviously his mate or a family member. You're totally misinterpreting posts here and taking them personally. I suggest you take a breather, and come back and read them with an open mind and you'll see no one is attacking your hero.

rondog

Have to agree with the above Tom Egan is no where near top level and to get upset that someone is stating the obvious is a bit pointless and immature.Lets keep it real as they say!!

On topic id internationally greg jacksons ,closer to home the wolfslair are churning out some decent fighters and london chute box have some exciting up and coming talent too,some which have made UFC appearances!!

_oveless

I thought Chute Box broke up?

wandy

Top 3 in my opinion based on current form owuld be Jacksons MMA, Xtreme Couture and American Top Team.

American Kickboxing Academy and Miletich Fighting Systems are close behind

Jason Mc

American Top Team is another strong team.


I always thought Miletich had a decent camp but they were at their strongest in the UFC when a lot of the top guys were over in Pride


It would be interesting to spend a few weeks with fedor and his gang at that little kid's park you see them training in. Maybe their facility has improved somewhat