does floyd mayweather drink alcohol?

NiamhDunk

anyone know whether or not mayweather drinks alcohol when hes not in camp?


i know hatton likes his juice.any other famous boxers who were drinkers/teetotalers?

cowzerp

No, Floyd Mayweather is a teetotaler!

he lives clean and is well known for it.

walshb

That's why Hatton was so brutally exposed. No real champ can afford
to live the way Rick was between fights. Floyd is known as a hard trainer
in and out of fights.

T-K-O

Ricky's bad habits were always going to catch up with him, but the size and gulf in class also had something to do with PBF KOing Hatton.

walshb

Well, his habits, along with the fact that he wasn't great either...He made the most of what he had really, and earned a lot of cash in the process,.

T-K-O

Hatton dominated 140, sure he wasn't the slickest of fighters but Ricky Hatton is a solid boxer.

cowzerp

T-K-O wrote: »

Hatton dominated 140, sure he wasn't the slickest of fighters but Ricky Hatton is a solid boxer.

Agreed, Mayweather is just a special talent and levels above Hatton and pretty much everyone else..

walshb

T-K-O wrote: »

Hatton dominated 140, sure he wasn't the slickest of fighters but Ricky Hatton is a solid boxer.

Until a Featherweight came along and smacked him in 2 rds.

Ricky was not a boxer, he was a brawler/slugger. A tough and hard guy with limited skills and little boxing ability. I always admired his heart and stamina and toughness, but never would use the term 'boxer' in describing Hatton. His lifestyle did indeed catch up with him.

If you watch some of his early fights and see the amount of punishment he takes, it's unreal. He then deteriorates and is all over the place towards the end. Lazcano would have KOd Hatton had it not been for the shoelace time out

As for Floyd, his dedication to training and clean living, as well as his
defence and talent will always see him get out of the sport in good health.

T-K-O

You can belittle Hatton all you want but his record speaks for itself. Hatton wan'ts beaten by any feather weight he has KOed by Manny Pacquiao. The pac man is special talent who beats all from 140 and below.

Even at this stage in his career Ricky has more than a 50/50 chance against the best at 140.

walshb

T-K-O wrote: »

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Even at this stage in his career Ricky has more than a 50/50 chance against the best at 140.

Exactly why the sport is not close to the heights of the past. If Ricky Fatton still can be considered a threat at 140 lbs, then boxing is really suffering.

And, Pac is a Featherweight truly and never would have beaten the great 140 lb fighters
of the past, including Floyd and Oscar and Mosley.

T-K-O

Yeah, everything was much better when I was in short trousers...

The pac man is bad news for any 140 lbs fighter. The guy has the strength and speed to hurt them all. As he swims with the bigger guys at 145 or 147 he IMO is pushing his luck but I wouldnt put anything past this little Philipino warrior.

walshb

Pac hangs with the best fighters ever at 126-130 lbs. I am not doubting that, and he hangs with the current best 140 lb fighters, but when one takes a look at what is the current best 140 lb fighters, that's far from an amazing feat. The Cotto test will be a real test I hope and although Cotto
IMO isn't great, he is very good, he should provide a good match for Pacman.

By great, I mean, an automatic HOF great fighter

T-K-O

To be fair to Manny we can only judge him on the his opposition. The guys is the best fighter from 140 down, I have no doubt. He is one of the best in the world and only size would decide a fight against the likes of Mayweather.

Look at what he did to hatton compared to Floyd. That was amazing stuff from the Pacman

walshb

T-K-O wrote: »

To be fair to Manny we can only judge him on the his opposition. The guys is the best fighter from 140 down, I have no doubt. He is one of the best in the world and only size would decide a fight against the likes of Mayweather.

Look at what he did to hatton compared to Floyd. That was amazing stuff from the Pacman

Yes, he did a number on Hatton, but it was Hatton. Floyd barely broke sweat in that crap fight vs. Hatton and when he eventually decided to open up, Hatton crumbled rather easily. Hatton looked woeful in his 147 lb bout vs. Collazzo. I suppose that should have been the
benchmark. I was far too praising of Hatton early on. I always knew he wasn't a boxer though.

I had 'stupidly' picked Hatton to cause Manny problems, purely based on natural size.
I didn't expect Hatton to be so so defensively inept for the two rds.

The jury is still out for Manny above LW IMO. A win over Diaz and past it Oscar and Hatton are just not enough. But, should he do the job vs. an in form Cotto, I will be the first to praise him. I will watch it first and then give my verdict on Manny's ability above 130-135 lbs.

You say we can only judge him on his opposition. Well, he is the
man fighting the Oscar's and Hatton's, when really, there were
better men in the 140-147 lb range, Cotto and Mosley being two.

scruff321

walshb wrote: »

Yes, he did a number on Hatton, but it was Hatton. Floyd barely broke sweat in that crap fight vs. Hatton and when he eventually decided to open up, Hatton crumbled rather easily. Hatton looked woeful in his 147 lb bout vs. Collazzo. I suppose that should have been the
benchmark. I was far too praising of Hatton early on. I always knew he wasn't a boxer though.

I had 'stupidly' picked Hatton to cause Manny problems, purely based on natural size.
I didn't expect Hatton to be so so defensively inept for the two rds.

The jury is still out for Manny above LW IMO. A win over Diaz and past it Oscar and Hatton are just not enough. But, should he do the job vs. an in form Cotto, I will be the first to praise him. I will watch it first and then give my verdict on Manny's ability above 130-135 lbs.

You say we can only judge him on his opposition. Well, he is the
man fighting the Oscar's and Hatton's, when really, there were
better men in the 140-147 lb range, Cotto and Mosley being two.

You could critisise Mayweather for doing the very same thing, and neither Pac or Mayweather want to fight Mosley who would be a real big test for Mayweather and i would say too much for Pacquiao.

And as for Pacquiao destroying Hatton faster then Mayweather did, doesnt mean anything as they are too completely different fighters. Manny is an excellent boxer but i wouldnt be suprised if he is beaten by Cotto, and even if he isnt the likes of Mosley, Mayweather and that big cheatin bastaad Margarito would all have way too much for him imo.

walshb

scruff321 wrote: »

You could critisise Mayweather for doing the very same thing, and neither Pac or Mayweather want to fight Mosley who

And I have in the past. Both Pac and Floyd are excellent fighters. Pac up to
130 lbs and Floyd up to 140 lbs. Until both men do something excellent above these weights, then I cannot elevate them to great at them weights, or even the best there is today at the weights

NiamhDunk

does pacquiao drink?
cotto?
mosley?
hopkins?
roy jones?
holyfield?
calzaghe?

T-K-O

NiamhDunk wrote: »

does pacquiao drink?
cotto?
mosley?
hopkins?
roy jones?
holyfield?
calzaghe?

I drink.

T-K-O

Sure there are better fighters out there and the Pac man has stepped up to the plate big style. He is now fighting the best 147 guy around.


BTW if Manny was the same weight as Floyd, the money man would have a one way ticket to queer st, hell even at the size he is now, I'd give him a great chance of beating Floyd.

walshb

T-K-O wrote: »

Sure there are better fighters out there and the Pac man has stepped up to the plate big style. He is now fighting the best 147 guy around.


BTW if Manny was the same weight as Floyd, the money man would have a one way ticket to queer st, hell even at the size he is now, I'd give him a great chance of beating Floyd.

Not entirely accurate T-K-O; he is fighting maybe the best 145 lb man out there and until he meets a legit welter without concessions, then I am sorry, but he deserves to be penalised some degree. The Devil is in the detail

He also deserves credit for moving up an meeting a naturally bigger man, but that is where it stops.
If he insists on Cotto fighting a catch weight, when Cotto should be able to come in at 147, then
he loses some credibility. Cotto too must take some blame, but it's Pac's team who are calling
for this

f1dan

Another walshb v T-K-O thread.......

nacho libre

Cotto is arguably the best welterweight around today, so if Pacman beats him- regardless of it being at 145 - then he deserves all the credit that will come his way.

I think cotto even at catchweight will still be too big and powerful for Pacman. yes, pacman will have the speed advantage and as a consequence he will having a fair bit of success early on but i will be shocked if Cotto folds like Hatton did. I see Cotto's power slowly but surely taking an effect on the smaller man leading to a tko by round seven.

powerzjim

mayweather is the mosr dedicated fight he always stayes in shape, dont let the hype fool you

walshb

nacho libre wrote: »

Cotto is arguably the best welterweight around today, so if Pacman beats him- regardless of it being at 145 - then he deserves all the credit that will come his way.
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Is beating a man weighing 145 lbs due to a contract the same as beating that same man who is under no contract and can come in dead on the welter limit?

NiamhDunk

walshb wrote: »

Is beating a man weighing 145 lbs due to a contract the same as beating that same man who is under no contract and can come in dead on the welter limit?

walshb, any chance you could explain this to me.

i assume the 145 limit was insisted upon by pacquaio? why?

does two pounds really make that much difference?



i was just as confused at the mayweather marquez fight, everyone was saying floyd coming in at two pounds over had ruined the fight. again, is two pounds gonna make that much difference?

excuse my ignorance if you will, i'm not exactly a boxing guru.thanks

walshb

NiamhDunk wrote: »

walshb, any chance you could explain this to me.

i assume the 145 limit was insisted upon by pacquaio? why?

does two pounds really make that much difference?



i was just as confused at the mayweather marquez fight, everyone was saying floyd coming in at two pounds over had ruined the fight. again, is two pounds gonna make that much difference?

excuse my ignorance if you will, i'm not exactly a boxing guru.thanks

Well, considering that top class pro boxing is so so precise, then yes, it can and it does make a difference. Why else would Pac's team be asking for it?

They are asking for it to benefit Pac, not hinder him or not to benefit Cotto.

Many greats have commented on the fact that they may have come in too light for a fight. Ray Leonard admitted that he came in too light for his bout vs Duran in June 1980.
He weighed 145 lbs for this bout. The key is to come in as close to the limit as possible.
It can also be a mental thing. The fact you nailed it and left nothing to
chance can help. Ray was a half lb lighter than Duran, and Duran was supposedly
the smaller man. So, Ray in coming in lighter had a significance, if only a mental significance.

At the very top, ounces make a difference. Now, it may not be a huge difference, but again, when two very good athletes meet, it is usually the smallest details that can
separate them, and in boxing, weight and weight management are so so crucial.

It's not simply a case of two lbs on the day and that is it. Cotto has to completely change his mindset and training and schedule to ensure he makes 145 lbs, and not come in at 146 or 147, which is allowable for Welter.

T-K-O

Cotto is the best 147 lbs fighter on the planet, Floyd could be that guy but he refuses to fight a legit welter weight. Maybe he has a drink problem.

If Manny beats Cotto it will be an outstanding achievement and the Pacman deserves all the credit. If Cotto doesn't want to fight at 145 he doesn't have to, nobody is putting a gun to his head.

Migel wants this fight. He could easily have fought someone like Berto and nobody would blink an eye.

nacho libre

walshb wrote: »

Is beating a man weighing 145 lbs due to a contract the same as beating that same man who is under no contract and can come in dead on the welter limit?

if Cotto is at a great disadvantage because of it then of course it takes away from Pacman winning. however, i don't think he will be. I believe Cotto will still have too much power for Pacman and won't be sluggish as a result of having to lose the two extra pounds. still, we'll just have to see. if Pacman wins will you automatically attritbute it to Cotto having to come in below the Welterweight limit? it is true though, if Pacman's people were so confident of their charge beating Cotto, they would not have looked for an edge by stipulating that the fight take place at a catchweight.

walshb

nacho libre wrote: »

if Cotto is at a great disadvantage because of it then of course it takes away from Pacman winning. however, i don't think he will be. I believe Cotto will still have too much power for Pacman and won't be sluggish as a result of having to lose the two extra pounds. still, we'll just have to see. if Pacman wins will you automatically attritbute it to Cotto having to come in below the Welterweight limit? it is true though, if Pacman's people were so confident of their charge beating Cotto, they would not have looked for an edge by stipulating that the fight take place at a catchweight.

nacho, my point is simply that the two scenarios are different and by a bit.
2 lbs is a difference and although Cotto may still win, he is being handicapped here,. That is the whole point. Pac and his team are not insisting on this
for nothing.

T-K-O, I did specifically say that Cotto too is part of it and must also
accept responsibility. Basically, the fight isn't on the level, no matter what way one spins it. It should be a good and hard fight, but to say it's a legit welter fight or a super fight is a stretch, not that you are saying this. I am just making the point

nacho libre

walshb wrote: »

nacho, my point is simply that the two scenarios are different and by a bit.
2 lbs is a difference and although Cotto may still win, he is being handicapped here,. That is the whole point. Pac and his team are not insisting on this
for nothing.

Yes, his team were looking for an edge when insisting on a catchweight fight, i acknowledged that in my last post, but i still feel this stipulation will not effect the outcome of the fight. Cotto will still be too strong and powerful for Pacman in my opinion.