Lopez vs. Mtagwa

nacho libre

Incredible fight!! This is the one of the best fights i've seen this year!!

Johner

HOLY ****!

HOW IN THE NAME OF **** DID LOPEZ STAY UP IN THE 12TH??


what a fight!! Unbelivable stuff!

Johner

Edit

LOPEZ UD!, one scorecard was read out wrong

Huge Huge respect to Mtagwa! Great fight!

simongurnick

Serious entertainment. Juanma got dragged into a brawl but you have to hand to him for staying up towards the end. Judges scored a bit generous but Mtawga would have had to knock him out to beat a Puerto Rican "wonderkid" in the Garden.
Casts a few doubts on Lopez to be honest. At the end of the day Mtawga is a journey man(26-12-2). As for Dunne ever meeting any of these, they just look physically much bigger! Funny too how Arum dodged the question on Lopez meeting Caballero or vasquez. Don't think he'd beat either on tonights evidence.

nacho libre

Johner wrote: »

HOLY ****!

HOW IN THE NAME OF **** DID LOPEZ STAY UP IN THE 12TH??

Sorry for the caps what a fight!! Unbelivable stuff!

yes, how he stayed up in the final round is a mystery. his legs were completely gone at the end of the 11th round and it looked as if the bell saved him.so how he stayed upright for the final three minutes is incredible.
the decision was no doubt the correct one, but Mtagwa definitely deserves a rematch!

nacho libre

simongurnick wrote: »

Serious entertainment. Juanma got dragged into a brawl but you have to hand to him for staying up towards the end. Judges scored a bit generous but Mtawga would have had to knock him out to beat a Puerto Rican "wonderkid" in the Garden.
Casts a few doubts on Lopez to be honest. At the end of the day Mtawga is a journey man(26-12-2). As for Dunne ever meeting any of these, they just look physically much bigger! Funny too how Arum dodged the question on Lopez meeting Caballero or vasquez. Don't think he'd beat either on tonights evidence.

Dunne, for well documented reasons, has no business getting in the ring with any of them as it would be a swift, albeit painful night for him. We knew this even before the Poonsawat fight. If he is to carry on he should face Munroe. As for Lopez, i think he would be dispatched fairly quickly by Vasquez. With Caballero he might last a bit longer.

akindoc

download link?

duagre

you do realize Vasquez struggled wildly with a journey man last night.

akindoc

duagre wrote: »

you do realize Vasquez struggled wildly with a journey man last night.

Have you already forgotten that Dunne got a hiding from Poonsawat 2 weeks ago? As soon as Poonsawat turned it up a notch, Dunne was face first on the canvas. The same poonsawat outboed by sidorenko. Dunne is not near Lopez or Vasquezs level regardless.

Big Ears

akindoc wrote: »

Have you already forgotten that Dunne got a hiding from Poonsawat 2 weeks ago? As soon as Poonsawat turned it up a notch, Dunne was face first on the canvas. The same poonsawat outboed by sidorenko. Dunne is not near Lopez or Vasquezs level regardless.

I think what he was referring to was the Vasquez would dispatch Lopez early comment.

Struggling with Priolo is not a very positive sign from Vasquez, even taking into account the amount of time off.

duagre

exactly big ears, I was indeed.

We don't have any idea what Vasquez has left after his injury and subsequent lay off. People are talking like he's going to be the exact same fighter he was 2 years ago, and that's really not that likely.
While he is entitled to a off night after coming off such an absence, lets first look at the facts.


Vasquez is (most likely) in the twilight of his career.
He has had some really grueling bouts over the years.
Even prior to the second and third fights with Marquez there was the feeling that physically he was breaking down a bit. Those two fights were absolutely brutal, and definitely took a physical toll.


Now lets look at his opponent...
Last night he was fighting a 35 year old journeyman, who was up till the stoppage, well in the fight.
Priolo had lost his last 6 fights (5 of those by KO) to a 50/50 split between good fighters and very mediocre opposition.
He was also fighting way above his natural weight.
To find his last win you have to go back to early 2004.
There is no element of him having a sudden resurgence either because in all honesty his wins were almost all against nobodies.

This was a fighter Vasquez should have blown away easily even with ring rust. The fact that he had such difficulty gives credence to the idea that he is not what he once was. I never write off someone on the basis of one performance, and I certainly don't write off a fighter the caliber of Israel Vasquez on one bad performance, but these are not good signs.


I'm just saying that if he was my fighter, I would not be eager to match him up with Lopez right now. After considering all I just said, do you really want to throw him in against a 26 year old buzz saw; A man in the prime of his career, with cataclysmic power, an incredible work rate, and as proven last night a damn decent chin. I love Vasquez, but i certainly don't like that match up for him.

Lopez had a tough nights work, but he's still a fresh young fighter. Last nights fight was draining on him no doubt and I definitely think he should take a bit of a rest before getting back in there with a top fighter, but I would be more concerned about him fighting Gamboa than Vasquez at this stage.


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nacho libre

I still stand by comment Lopez will lose to Vasquez. Perhaps not as easily as i suggested but i still think he has what it takes to beat Lopez in a war of attrition. it can happen that you have an off night. also given his long lay off i wouldn't write him him off as being in serious decline because he laboured to a win against a journeyman. Even if he is not the fighter he once was he'll still be a handful for Lopez or just about any fighter in my opinion.

makl

its on now on http://www.justin.tv/playzone

think its on replay

makl

what a fight. how lucky was lopez to get out of 11th.

it is on replay btw on that link above

nacho libre

makl wrote: »

what a fight. how lucky was lopez to get out of 11th.

it is on replay btw on that link above

I should have opened this thread first:)

makl

just read your other post. nice one either way.