How long til files replace DVDs?

How long do you reckon it'll take before, instead of going to Xtra-Vision with your membership card and renting out a DVD, you'll walk in with your memory stick and slide it into a computer, transfer whatever film you want, and the file corrupts/deletes itself after 24hours (or whatever duration you rent it out for) and the money is deducted from your credit card/paypal account?


Or do you reckon such a thing will never happen, and people will always want a physical item to rent out?



It's something a few of my friends and myself have been talking about earlier and thought id slap it up here to see what others think.


As it is, you can already rent films and buy games via XBox LIVE, and obviously not-so-legal downloading of music, games, movies, etc. is very popular with people, so it's gotta be catching on with people.



Curious of other peoples thoughts...

qwertplaywert

I like that idea, but would prefer a system where you get a teaster i.e. if you return it, after only watching half an hour or less of it[and didn't like it] you wouldn't have to pay.

xzanti

Patent that op

bluto63

Aren't there already websites that do that?

wudangclan

xzanti wrote: »

Patent that op

good idea.
call it 'private bay' or something like that.

Rebelheart

bluto63 wrote: »

Aren't there already websites that do that?

Any names?

beng128

Great idea OP but there are many silly people out there that only recently got DVD players, namely my school (which is not some middle of nowhere, 5 pupil place, its a 850 pupil Dublin 3 place). So I think it'll be a good few years untill that idea of yours catches on

5uspect

http://www.netflix.com/

Can't see people using storage media when you can just download.

aidan_walsh

KKV wrote: »

How long do you reckon it'll take before, instead of going to Xtra-Vision with your membership card and renting out a DVD, you'll walk in with your memory stick and slide it into a computer, transfer whatever film you want, and the file corrupts/deletes itself after 24hours (or whatever duration you rent it out for) and the money is deducted from your credit card/paypal account?


Or do you reckon such a thing will never happen, and people will always want a physical item to rent out?



It's something a few of my friends and myself have been talking about earlier and thought id slap it up here to see what others think.


As it is, you can already rent films and buy games via XBox LIVE, and obviously not-so-legal downloading of music, games, movies, etc. is very popular with people, so it's gotta be catching on with people.



Curious of other peoples thoughts...

Never, on any kind of scale larger than "experimental". There is no point having a store for this as it would be faster, easier and cheaper to deliver it directly to the customer.

Joey the lips

I reckon with the speed broadban is heading towards we will be downloading movies at the very min. at the very max we will have a bank within the televisions with every single filim and we just select one from it.

I think the video/dvd/memory store is gone. I also think game consoles are heading the same way.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Had this idea myself just over 2 years ago, there are a few patents granted and pending for the combined technologies. The ball has moved on this one, but keep your ideas coming, and best of luck with the future.

Check this link out.



http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006577.html

My name is URL

It would be an easy enough venture to set up once you get licencing agreements

You wouldn't even need shop staff... kiosks ftw!

edit: god damn - http://kioskmarketplace.com/article.php?id=23070&na=1&s=2

5uspect

The problem is that you'll have to make everyone buy media players that support the video format and storage media format you choose to use. If you have an xbox or PS3 you can just stream the content.

And there's several HD streaming sites, both legal and illegal.

The old brick n' mortar video shop is dead.

Leprachaun

Pssh. Whats a DVD? Is it like a blueray?

5uspect

Leprachaun wrote: »

Pssh. Whats a DVD? Is it like a blueray?

Yup, its cheaper, and far more popular.

Professey Chin

Itll be a while before physical media dies here.Our broadband infrastructure can barely handle todays traffic, never mind that kinda media downloads

FunkZ

xzanti wrote: »

Patent that op

Too late

/swims in fiftys!

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Another bit on this idea.

Taken from www.retailcustomerexperience.com

"Rather hard to find, but worth seeking out, was the Portomedia display at the IBM pavilion. The company’s Movie Point kiosk holds 500 different movies in digital form. Shoppers use the kiosk to select and pay for a movie, then insert a tiny "Movie Key" USB drive. The movie is transferred to the drive in less than a minute, and "expires" automatically at the end of the rental period. The movie can be viewed on any USB-enabled computer, or on a standard television via a proprietary dock."

mp3guy

Talk about making piracy easier.

TestTransmission

Leprachaun wrote: »

Pssh. Whats a DVD? Is it like a blueray?

What's a blueray?

Ive only ever heard of bluray

MagicMarker

Blue Ray.

The one on the right.

blubloblu

Why would you need a physical shop for this?

Overheal

iTunes is one example of this already having happened. hey arent rental rates, no, but they are digital copies. Quality of the digital copies will improve as infrastructure does. You can already go to some kiosks iirc and access downloads this way.

Why would you need a physical shop for this?

Because your residential broadband offering is crap crap craaaaaaap!

Businesses are offered and can afford much higher speeds

Elessar

If the big players like iTunes and Netflix still have not gotten digital licensing agreements for anywhere other than the USA, how likely do you think the likes of xtra-vision or screenclick are going to get them?

You CAN still use the likes of netflix and iTunes if you use an american IP address, but if you were going to go to all that trouble you might aswell just pirate them.

Capt'n Midnight

The real question is when / if DVD's you buy as boxsets for christmas will be replaced and by what ?

That's where the real money is, movies barely break even these days on the box office from cinemas, it's all about the rental , which could be done on line and the all important Box Sets.

BaconZombie

DRM = FAIL

Jesus Wept

KKV wrote: »

How long do you reckon it'll take before, instead of going to Xtra-Vision with your membership card and renting out a DVD, you'll walk in with your memory stick and slide it into a computer, transfer whatever film you want, and the file corrupts/deletes itself after 24hours (or whatever duration you rent it out for) and the money is deducted from your credit card/paypal account?

I dunno how long that will take however it sounds infinite years behind my current system of not having to bother going to Xtra-Vision, sign up for membership, pay or have my files self destruct.

:pac:

thebman

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Itll be a while before physical media dies here.Our broadband infrastructure can barely handle todays traffic, never mind that kinda media downloads

Yeah everyone an see it coming except FF.

Vote FF! :pac:

BTW you can already rent movies on Xbox 360 and PS3 (I think) and they delete themselves after 24 hours of you watching them or 2 days or something if you never watch them :mad:

They are overpriced considering there is little to no cost to them providing the service IMO. The SD movies aren't that bad but the HD ones cost too much especially given the existence of tor and his bay.

EKRIUQ

Blockbuster in America offer this system too.

Capt'n Midnight

BOFH_139 wrote: »

DRM = FAIL

http://xkcd.com/488/ TBH

Fighting Irish

I haven't bought/rented a DVD in years, downloading ftw

dvpower

KKV wrote: »

How long do you reckon it'll take before, instead of going to Xtra-Vision with your membership card and renting out a DVD, you'll walk in with your memory stick and slide it into a computer, transfer whatever film you want, and the file corrupts/deletes itself after 24hours (or whatever duration you rent it out for) and the money is deducted from your credit card/paypal account?

What? We'll all still have to actually go to XtraVision?

5uspect

dvpower wrote: »

What? We'll all still have to actually go to XtraVision?

TBH its nearly cheaper to go to HMV and buy a DVD than rent it nowadays.

billy the squid

it can already be done. got an e-book for a college assignment which is only accessible for 7 days.

Also, there are those free demo programmes that only work for 30 days.

Manic Moran

Netflix has a service which downloads from their server to a little box which hooks up to your TV. It's not usually streaming, you queue up the next ten movies that you want to watch, and it downloads and stores them. There is a simple base price per month, you can download as many movies and shows as you can watch.

NTM

nlgbbbblth

did it every occur to anybody that "files" and "physical media" can happily co-exist together?

some people will download, others will prefer a tangible format.

I've been getting the "vinyl is dead" message every year since 1986.
I still buy records every week.

All those f*ckers were wrong.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

aidan_walsh wrote: »

Never, on any kind of scale larger than "experimental". There is no point having a store for this as it would be faster, easier and cheaper to deliver it directly to the customer.

Why not? What real reasons do you have? To transfer a file might take a little while, but not even nearly as long as downloading a film. It's something what is very plausable. There is also a point in having a store, but I would take a long time explaining it. Click and mortar companies do actually exist. They are everywhere.

There would be a point in having a shop. The same reason some places are not 100% on the net, they exist physically also.

5uspect wrote: »

The problem is that you'll have to make everyone buy media players that support the video format and storage media format you choose to use. If you have an xbox or PS3 you can just stream the content.

And there's several HD streaming sites, both legal and illegal.

The old brick n' mortar video shop is dead.

Most players play MP3 and MP4 files. It is definately something that would work on a PC, as you can get VLC or something.

The same can be said for any new technology, dvd, blueray etc etc, they needed to roll out new hardware also. People bought it, why not this new idea?

mp3guy wrote: »

Talk about making piracy easier.

Piracy is already easy, I can't see it being any easier actually. Some companies don't even bother putting up any piracy prevention on their software as they save more money in the long run

blubloblu wrote: »

Why would you need a physical shop for this?

Why wouldn't you? Of course you could have one. You need to broaden your market. Why the fcuk would anybody be stupid enough to limit themselves to those with a pc and good broadband (a minority in this country). Then you have people who do not shop online due to trust. Having a physical shop, without shelves and the likes, just some computers would be great. Anybody could go and buy what they need.

Overheal wrote: »

Because your residential broadband offering is crap crap craaaaaaap!

Businesses are offered and can afford much higher speeds

Check out my sig That is a residential speed, not a business

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

did it every occur to anybody that "files" and "physical media" can happily co-exist together?

some people will download, others will prefer a tangible format.

I've been getting the "vinyl is dead" message every year since 1986.
I still buy records every week.

All those f*ckers were wrong.

Yea this stuff always survives, but it is just less popular. Who still uses midi disks? That's one thing I would say is very much dead. Records dvd's cd's etc etc will still be around in years to come

benj

Leprachaun wrote: »

Pssh. Whats a DVD? Is it like a blueray?

a blueray is a ray of blue light and a blu-ray is a posh dvd

Dankoozy

DRM sucks.

squibs

I want a service where somebody watches the movie for me and gives me an executive summary, including a brief video of highlights, nudity and explosions.

NedTermo

KKV wrote: »

How long do you reckon it'll take before, instead of going to Xtra-Vision with your membership card and renting out a DVD, you'll walk in with your memory stick and slide it into a computer, transfer whatever film you want, and the file corrupts/deletes itself after 24hours (or whatever duration you rent it out for) and the money is deducted from your credit card/paypal account?

Surely the whole point in the evolution of movies on file which can be transferred from one location to another without ever physically existing makes the whole point of walking somewhere to put one on a memory stick redundant?

toiletduck

I want a service where somebody watches the movie for me and gives me an executive summary, including a brief video of highlights, nudity and explosions.

Wiki-ing a movie just saves so much time, doesn't it? :pac:


I haven't used a dvd in years.

Kipperhell

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

did it every occur to anybody that "files" and "physical media" can happily co-exist together?

some people will download, others will prefer a tangible format.

I've been getting the "vinyl is dead" message every year since 1986.
I still buy records every week.

All those f*ckers were wrong.

It is possible I guess but the video tape and cassette tape are probably closer to what will happen to DVD. Co-existing is possible but vinyl albums certainly did nearly completely cease and the recent resurgence may be fleeting as music sales all dwindle.

Paddycrumlinman

I used www.netflix.com $8.99 a month and I get to pick one DVD movie and its delivered to my house.

Once I send it back, the next one arrives like magic.

The beauty of netfix.com is that they have a huge online catalog of movies which you can stream and watch instantly.

So out pops my laptop, movie is picked or movies.... connect to TV via HDMI cable and bobs your uncle...

The best $9 I can spend in a month. The streaming is flawless and great quality but it does depend on how good your Internet is.

Not sure if this is available in Ireland?????

speedboatchase

I don't know too much about Netflix but it does sound pretty fantastic. The future of media is cloud computing IMO, where all your videogames/films etc will be paid-for online and rather than stored on your own hardware, will be stored on the companies server, with zero streaming issues etc. You'll probably see places like HMV etc mainly selling the hardware/peripherals needed to support this, with some physical media still preserved