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Graduation Caps!

  • 10-10-2009 4:26pm
    #1
    wesker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭


    Hey all,

    I know this question has been asked before, about why women have to wear caps. But I always wanted to wear the hat! However being a guy I was a bit dissapointed when I got my bachelors degree and I was told that they were only for girls.

    I was on the official Phelan Conan website ordering my robe for my masters graduation when it said "NB: Caps are for ladies only." WTF? :confused: (Im going to email them to ask why.)

    Please note that this is only about the hat, I always pictured myself wearing that hat and why cant I? Personally the only reason I like the graduation is because you get dressed up (that and running around pretending your Batman). This is stupid I know, but because I am not allowed to do it makes me want it all the more! :D

    Im wondering if there was anyone out there that wanted to wear the hat but wasnt allowed, or if there was any girls that chose not to wear the hat.


Comments

  • #2
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    If you get a PHd you get a cap


  • #3
    wesker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭wesker


    Ah yeah, but girls get to wear the hat for their degree and masters, but the guys are not allowed to.


  • #4
    pablodunlop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭pablodunlop


    Apparently the old story is that it represents a "cap" on their education :p


  • #5
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Firstly, its a mortar board rather than a cap isn't it?
    Secondly, it might be an NUIG thing to explicitly say guys can't wear it, lots of them did when I graduated from my BA in NUIM. In UL there were people going along the line of graduates trying to make all the girls wear the mb when my sister was graduating. She didn't afaik.
    Thirdly, yea the story is the mb represents the end of education for a woman (good reason not to wear them imo).
    All this stuffy tradition stuff is part of the reason I initially didn't plan on going to graduation this year, I hate these rules that go along with it and everyone involved in running it take it far too seriously.


  • #6
    wesker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭wesker


    Hey Brian,

    Yeah your right they are called motar boards. I agree with you about the seriousness of the occasion, I find them tedious to be honest, but its also a family thing so you kinda have to go.

    I emailed the company and they said that they were optional and women wear them due to tradition, whatever that may be.

    Cheers for the replies


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  • #7
    Anatomy Boy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭Anatomy Boy


    It's not completly correct to call it a mortarboard, it's just a nickname that stuck because it resembles a brick-layers mortarboard.

    There's a couple of apocraphyal stories as to why women have to wear them; I always heard it was a "cap on womens education", my sister was not impressed when she graduated but she still wore it, for bachelors and masters.
    The other story is that the male students through them off in protest and women being allowed to enter the universities in the first place (this version is told in older uni's with more traditional backgrounds)

    I have to laugh at the fact that a guy is giving out that he can't wear one and all the girls usually give out about being made to wear one.
    I think it's just tradition and to be honest the whole graduating ceremony is based on tradition. How boring if they just posted us out certs!!!

    (p.s if you want a hat you could do a PhD and get a big floppy one!)


  • #8
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Anatomy Boy wrote: »
    It's not completly correct to call it a mortarboard, it's just a nickname that stuck because it resembles a brick-layers mortarboard.

    There's a couple of apocraphyal stories as to why women have to wear them; I always heard it was a "cap on womens education", my sister was not impressed when she graduated but she still wore it, for bachelors and masters.
    The other story is that the male students through them off in protest and women being allowed to enter the universities in the first place (this version is told in older uni's with more traditional backgrounds)

    I have to laugh at the fact that a guy is giving out that he can't wear one and all the girls usually give out about being made to wear one.
    I think it's just tradition and to be honest the whole graduating ceremony is based on tradition. How boring if they just posted us out certs!!!

    Thanks for the info, I wasn't 100% sure if that was the correct name or what.
    (p.s if you want a hat you could do a PhD and get a big floppy one!)

    Reeeeally not looking forward to that day (good bit off in the future) everyone seems to wear the floppy hats, male and female. Hate how all the lecturers have their own robes from the uni they graduated with their daft hats and everything-its just so unnecessary!!!
    /rant.


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