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walkthrough guide on installing unix-linux ?

  • 10-10-2009 2:14pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭


    can anyone point me in right direction ?

    complete noob to this obviously !

    cheers,

    AJ


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 TomCullen


    What OS do you want to install?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭BopNiblets




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    The HowtoForge (linked above) is excellent. I've used it for other distros. It doesn't just walk you through the base install - but also installing other essential software for whatever distro you may need.

    As a complete beginner I'd recommend either Mint or Ubuntu (Mint is a multimedia friendly fork of Ubuntu). I'm not a fan of Mint myself but it is aimed at newbies who want a fully working system out of the box. With Ubuntu you do need to install certain software that they don't automatically install for licensing reasons. Why Mint can do it and Ubuntu can't is beyond me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 TomCullen


    MY best advise is that you download virtual box ( alows you to run operating systems while on windows ) and install both.. play around with them and see which you like more. Ubuntu would be my preferences.. but it depends what you use your computer for..


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Depends if you want to wipe everything and just have linux or if you want to keep windows and can pick linux or windows each time the computer starts.


    With Ubuntu it's nearly as simple as.
    boot up from the Ubuntu CD ,( usually you have to press F12 when the computer starts to get the option to boot from CD )
    wait
    Click on the Install icon
    follow the default options , apart from telling it you are in Ireland (by clicking on the map) and you use a UK keyboard layout.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭action jackson


    thanks guys, i am keen to learn redhat for employment reasons, any links for this would be great.

    i already partitioned my hard-drive for the new OS.

    cheers,

    AJ


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-fedora-11-gnome

    Fedora is the consumer version of RH. All the commands will be the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Nichololas


    Macros42 wrote: »
    As a complete beginner I'd recommend either Mint or Ubuntu (Mint is a multimedia friendly fork of Ubuntu). I'm not a fan of Mint myself but it is aimed at newbies who want a fully working system out of the box. With Ubuntu you do need to install certain software that they don't automatically install for licensing reasons. Why Mint can do it and Ubuntu can't is beyond me.

    Recommending Mint also, it's very easy to get going for a complete newbie. IIRC it's not that Ubuntu can't put them in, it's that it's against their principles/mandate to include software that requires a licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    If you haven't chosen your preferred Linux version yet I would advise you d/load three and try them to see which suits you best .....

    Mepis
    PCLinuxOS
    Mint

    in no particular order.

    Lots of people do not do the research first and end up with something that does not suit them. Lots apparently give up because of it.

    If you have time and interest after that there are plenty more to look at, such as Suse, Mandriva and others.

    All make it a little smoother for the newcomer to Linux than some of the more geeky distros.

    Just another opinion .......

    Good luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    Enlil_Nick wrote: »
    IIRC it's not that Ubuntu can't put them in, it's that it's against their principles/mandate to include software that requires a licence.

    Nope - they would like to include them despite being closed but don't for legal reasons.

    https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2009-January/011432.html
    Things like w32codecs (which you mentioned) are very probably not redistributable, which is why they *aren't* in Ubuntu repositories mirrored around the world. Others may redistribute them, but their legal problems are not ours.

    msttcorefonts

    This package does not distribute the fonts in question directly; it downloads them from the Internet and installs them on your system. No legal liability for Ubuntu, and we don't want to get into a lawsuit fight with Microsoft over it, especially since ttf-liberation is looking pretty promising for this.


    flashplugin-nonfree

    Downloads the plugin from the Internet and installs it, rather than distributing it directly. Canonical is now permitted to distribute the Flash plugin, but we aren't allowed to put it on mirrors, so it can only go on archive.canonical.com and may not go on CDs.

    libmp3lame0

    An encoder. Don't even go there.

    libdvdread3

    I'm not sure I want to go here either. (Others are doubtless more familiar with the issues than I am, anyway.)


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Enlil_Nick wrote: »
    Recommending Mint also, it's very easy to get going for a complete newbie. IIRC it's not that Ubuntu can't put them in, it's that it's against their principles/mandate to include software that requires a licence.
    Almost all Ubuntu software requires a license, very little if any is public domain.

    Ubuntu doesn't include codecs which you have to pay for , 'cos it's generally illegal to sell or give away something someone else owns. With Windows and OSX the costs of these licenses are included in the cost of the OS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    Using words like partition and hard drive scare the heck out of me.
    If you don't want to worry about any of that :pac:*ra*, you should use Ubuntu. There's a new one coming out in about a week, Ubuntu 9.10. Seriously, I have used ubuntu for 2 years now and I'm still a noob yet using linux is so easy - well ubuntu anyway - that you have absolutely no worries. If you want to take a test drive of ubuntu without affecting windows at all you should try out wubi.
    Just download it, then when you open the program tell it to use maybe 5 GB of space. Now remember, this is only a test drive of it and although it's the exact same as using ubuntu you do want to uninstall it in like a week and get ubuntu 9.10 as a fresh install and use way more space on the partition.

    The wubi thing will take about 2-3 hours if you want a completely functioning ubuntu to play around with, and compared to windows, that's how long it takes to install a service pack, let alone the entire system:eek:. Plus while it's installing the main stuff (after the quick initial installation) you can search around and get a feel.

    If you have questions about linux, this is the best link for them
    and, if you ever have a problem with ubuntu in any way, this is where you ask the questions, they always answer!
    idk how many trivial questions I've asked only to find answers. (trivial to an expert i mean:rolleyes:). Good luck and happy tuxing...:P
    NOTE: Only a personal opinion and should not be construed as an authoratative or definitive summation of ubuntu from the noob perspective, merely my experience. Mint sounds like another good choice, I had no idea of it's existence. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,048 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Using words like partition and hard drive scare the heck out of me.
    If you don't want to worry about any of that *ra*, you should use Ubuntu. There's a new one coming out in about a week, Ubuntu 9.10. Seriously, I have used ubuntu for 2 years now and I'm still a noob yet using linux is so easy - well ubuntu anyway - that you have absolutely no worries.

    I would point out that Ubuntu is just one more version of Linux and in itself is nothing special, no more than most other versions (distros).
    A considerable number of people prefer Ubuntu but also quite a large number prefer other distributions of Linux.

    It is always adviseable for a new user to get several of the more user friendly live CDs and run them on their hardware to check that they work properly in the first place and secondly to be in a position to make a decision as to which distro best suits their personal requirements.

    In this regard it is generally accepted that Mint, which is based on Ubuntu, is a more new user friendly distro than its parent. It already includes those apps that a user might like to have without having to deliberately find and install them.

    It is only by comparing a few distros with each other that a new user is in a position to make an informed decision and not rely on other peoples perception of what is best for them. I for one have had enough of the likes of MS telling me what is best for me ;)

    regards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭An Fear Aniar


    thanks guys, i am keen to learn redhat for employment reasons, any links for this would be great.

    i already partitioned my hard-drive for the new OS.

    cheers,

    AJ

    Hi, Red Hat is an RPM based distro, so probably Fedora would be the most similar distro that you can use on a desktop PC.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Nichololas


    I stand corrected. Although I said 'licence' when what I meant was anything that's not GPL. :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭cable842


    LInux Mint Gloria is my second wife :)
    BopNiblets wrote: »


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