New Government framework - cycling aspects

CheGuedara

Well here's what we seem to be getting from the new shenanigans

The Govenment wrote:

We will reverse the CIE policy of excluding and limiting bicycle carrying capacity on interurban trains and buses and ensure all new train units have a more extensive bicycle carrying capacity.

Didn't we just fkn know it - hopefully they'll do what their told now and not fight it. Still if it means that there will be more and better access for people trying to get to things like the ROK cycle (which we know people had trouble getting to) and other events how bad.

The Govenment wrote:

We will develop a Bray to Balbriggan cycle and pedestrian route, and other similar routes such as Oranmore to Barna, as major tourism and commuter facilities.

Positive sounding at least

And

The Govenment wrote:

We will promote the development of cycling as a growth area for tourism.

We will introduce an All-Ireland Walkways Development Plan, mapping out
infrastructural needs and routes and maximising their use. We will pursue the possibility of using former railway infrastructure as recreational trails for cycling in partnership with Iarnród Éireann etc.

I'm quite happy to see that last bit as in Kerry there's a little tet á tet going on over CIE rail lines between Tralee and Fenit that are unused (but not abandoned) that farmers are objecting their conversion for use as a recreational cycle route. This should certainly help put weight behind the cause

Captain Havoc

I know at this stage ye're probably sick of me mentioning Switzerland but this is unbelievably cycle friendly. I lived there for two years and geting a bike from one end of the country to the other is no hassle at all (and they don't ask you to pay more for the privelage).

mockler007

jerseyeire wrote: »

I know at this stage ye're probably sick of me mentioning Switzerland but this is unbelievably cycle friendly. I lived there for two years and geting a bike from one end of the country to the other is no hassle at all (and they don't ask you to pay more for the privelage).

it was the same in germany, bikes for free on the trains.
then you have ireland stuck in 1922 spending billions on trains that you couldnt even bring bikes on. like hellloooooo. id rather europe run this country instead of biffo wobbles making a cat pyjamas of it:rolleyes:
and sinn fein shut your gobs, what have you done ever for this country but make holes in it

Rob_l

mockler007 wrote: »

it was the same in germany, bikes for free on the trains.
then you have ireland stuck in 1922 spending billions on trains that you couldnt even bring bikes on. like hellloooooo. id rather europe run this country instead of biffo wobbles making a cat pyjamas of it:rolleyes:
and sinn fein shut your gobs, what have you done ever for this country but make holes in it

I dont think it is the same in germany i know in berlin you have to buy a ticket for your bike (or dog) on urban rail

alfalad

mockler007 wrote: »

it was the same in germany, bikes for free on the trains.
then you have ireland stuck in 1922 spending billions on trains that you couldnt even bring bikes on. like hellloooooo. id rather europe run this country instead of biffo wobbles making a cat pyjamas of it:rolleyes:
and sinn fein shut your gobs, what have you done ever for this country but make holes in it

I had to pay for my bike on a germany train before, not a massive amount, maybe €10 or something but still had to pay.

Slideshowbob

i had to pay for bikes on swiss trains this year

the lad above must have bunked on :eek:

cosmic

CheGuedara wrote: »

Originally Posted by The Govenment
We will reverse the CIE policy of excluding and limiting bicycle carrying capacity on interurban trains and buses and ensure all new train units have a more extensive bicycle carrying capacity.

Does anyone know when this will be implemented? I'm planning a trip to Wexford in December and I could plan some great spins if it was all go by then!

petethedrummer

cosmic wrote: »

Does anyone know when this will be implemented?

In the future.

BeerNut

petethedrummer wrote: »

In the future.

Will it cost extra for hoverbikes?

CheGuedara

cosmic wrote: »

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Does anyone know when this will be implemented? I'm planning a trip to Wexford in December and I could plan some great spins if it was all go by then!

Well you've outed yourself as an optimist there!

I'd guess we'll be having a wait until a critical mass of demand forces that change sometime next year when the it brightens and warms up and more people get out on the bikes again.

I'd happily welcome being surprised by an early introduction though

cosmic

CheGuedara wrote: »

Well you've outed yourself as an optimist there!

Just hoping against hope really! Oh the possibilities...

potsy11

BeerNut wrote: »

Will it cost extra for hoverbikes?

Seeing that Hoverbikes actually hover - I would think that you could tie the bike onto the back of the train and toe it to your destination.

I cant wait for the future.

petethedrummer

BeerNut wrote: »

Will it cost extra for hoverbikes?

Given how some of the cycle lanes are designed at the moment, I suspect that the council think hoverbikes already exist.

cosmic wrote: »

Does anyone know when this will be implemented? I'm planning a trip to Wexford in December and I could plan some great spins if it was all go by then!

I'm sure you can get to wexford with a bike already. Any Bus Eireann bus can take you at the moment, as long as the boot is not full. Most drivers are sound about it, they might not even charge you.

Dunno much about the rail service to Wexford.

cosmic

petethedrummer wrote: »

I'm sure you can get to wexford with a bike already. Any Bus Eireann bus can take you at the moment, as long as the boot is not full. Most drivers are sound about it, they might not even charge you.

Dunno much about the rail service to Wexford.

I've taken it down on the bus before but this time me and the other half are going down a few days before Christmas, there'd be very little chance of room in the boot that close with everyone going home - but sure you never know! The train would have been a nice safe option though, just to know my bike is sitting there nice and safe and happy and not be worrying about someone chucking a big heavy rucksack onto my lovely wheels. Iarnrod Eireann don't allow bikes on the Wexford route, we tried during the Summer and got sent on our merry way off to get the bus instead! It's no big deal but the train would have been nice...

monument

CheGuedara wrote: »

Well here's what we seem to be getting from the new shenanigans

missing a large part of it... The National Cycle Policy Framework document is now actual policy...
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055706728

monument

Vigorous implementation are the words used in the new programme fro gov.

Doctor Bob

monument wrote: »

missing a large part of it... The National Cycle Policy Framework document is now actual policy...
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055706728

So is 'Bray to Balbriggan' apparently, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

What's next- Dundalk to Dunmore East? Belfast to Ballycotton?

Slideshowbob

Doctor Bob wrote: »

So is 'Bray to Balbriggan' apparently, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

What's next- Dundalk to Dunmore East? Belfast to Ballycotton?

Dublin 1 to Dublin 2 !!?!?

Doctor Bob

Joking aside, Sutton to Sandycove - the, um, precursor to this B2B 'idea' - is actually on the way, or some of it at least. Part of that Rathmines to Fairview route announced recently is along the line of S2S. Much of S2S on the north side is in place; what happens to S2S south of D2 is open to debate. Thus my scepticism regarding the B2B...

monument

Slideshowbob wrote: »

Dublin 1 to Dublin 2 !!?!?

As mentioned above, the D1 To D2 section of the track has got funding! Just a few weeks ago in fact. It won't suit many people's commute, but it's a step forward.

More genreally, there's a lot of pro cycling stuff in the National Cycle Policy Framework and now it has been made into gov policy -- that's a big, big step in the right direction!