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The Universe will end

  • 07-10-2009 11:08am
    #1
    dragonsgates
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    Scientific discoveries now say the Universe will end.

    It will expand further and grow colder and eventually all structures will return to their molecular level.

    How does this effect your belief in a deity.


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  • #2
    PDN
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    dragonsgates wrote: »
    Scientific discoveries now say the Universe will end.

    It will expand further and grow colder and eventually all structures will return to their molecular level.

    How does this effect your belief in a deity.


    Doesn't affect it in the slightest. Christian belief is that heaven and earth will pass away and that God will create a new heavens and a new earth.

    Nice to see that scientific discoveries are confirming the Bible. Thanks for pointing that out to us.


  • #3
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    What bloody difference does it make if the universe ends??
    Our planet will be gobbled up by the sun well before then:(.

    Also, FYI,the theory you suggested can easily lead to a cyclical eternal universe model that expands and contracts for an eternity.:p
    Pretty much fitting the Christian view of recreating the heavens and the earths all over again.


  • #4
    Fanny Cradock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    And why do you think such a thing would be of concern for the Christian who believes in the renewal of the cosmos and the joining together of heaven and earth (or the creation of a new heavens and a new earth as it was more succinctly put)?

    I suggest that you start by reading up on Paul's contribution to the NT to learn a little more about what the very earliest Christians believed about the redemption and renewal of the cosmos and their bodies through the resurrection of Jesus. You can then apply this newly gained knowledge to this very thread.


  • #5
    CerebralCortex
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    dragonsgates you have much to learn, may I say I'm slighty embarresed and proabably for the both of us.


  • #6
    Zombrex
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    PDN wrote: »
    Nice to see that scientific discoveries are confirming the Bible. Thanks for pointing that out to us.

    pwned :p


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  • #7
    smcgiff
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    Wicknight wrote: »
    pwned :p

    Why is everyone jumping to the conclusion the OP meant this as a negative. Overly Defensive?


  • #8
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    smcgiff wrote: »
    Why is everyone jumping to the conclusion the OP meant this as a negative. Overly Defensive?

    The OP had made many posts previous to this one which consisted of stupid arguments and disrespectful attacks on Christianity.


  • #9
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    smcgiff wrote: »
    Why is everyone jumping to the conclusion the OP meant this as a negative. Overly Defensive?

    Well generally when new posters stumble onto the Christianity forum with a "...what you think about that" style post it is because they think they have discovered the fatal flaw in religious belief that no one else has thought of


  • #10
    Helix
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    dragonsgates wrote: »
    Scientific discoveries now say the Universe will end


    OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!! its a time traveller from about 60 years ago!!!!! we're done for


  • #11
    philologos
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    dragonsgates wrote: »
    Scientific discoveries now say the Universe will end.

    It will expand further and grow colder and eventually all structures will return to their molecular level.

    How does this effect your belief in a deity.

    Reinforces it. What we know will come to an end. It has been described as such since Judaism.
    Isaiah 66:22 wrote:
    “For as the new heavens and the new earth
    that I make
    shall remain before me, says the Lord"


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  • #12
    DigiGal
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    Wicknight wrote: »
    pwned :p
    Anyoen who says pwned has to eb too young to be on these boards


  • #13
    philologos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    DigiGal wrote: »
    Anyoen who says pwned has to eb too young to be on these boards

    Too young, or too awesome. I'm going with the latter :pac:


  • #14
    chozometroid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭chozometroid


    DigiGal wrote: »
    Anyoen who says pwned has to eb too young to be on these boards
    Self pwned.

    Ok, back to the OP:
    Scientific discoveries now say the Universe will end.

    It will expand further and grow colder and eventually all structures will return to their molecular level.

    How does this effect your belief in a deity.
    As it's all ready been said, Christians expect a renewal of this world after Christ returns, so it makes no difference. However, I don't believe the earth or universe will last until this proposed "heat death" moment before being renewed. I highly doubt we will have to wait millions of years to live in the New Jerusalem.


  • #15
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    chozometroid wrote: »
    Self pwned.

    Ok, back to the OP:

    As it's all ready been said, Christians expect a renewal of this world after Christ returns, so it makes no difference. However, I don't believe the earth or universe will last until this proposed "heat death" moment before being renewed.

    The universe will, the Earth probably won't.:)
    We still don't know anything for certain yet but it's still possible that the universe NEVER ends! WOOT!
    I'm still going to die anyways:(


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