the Japanese GP Grid guessing game!

IM0

So what a headache the FAI have regarding re-arranging the grid after all the penanlties have been handed out.
And I heard that the grid is changed based on the order the incidents occured? but what about the gearbox changes..which decideds the order! the crash or the time of replacement (i.e. after qualifying)

anyway heres my guess for the gp grid:

vettel
trulli
hamilton
heidfeld
raikkonen
sutil
rosberg
bar
kubica
button
kovalainen
alg
fisi
buemi
naka
alonso
gros
glock
webber *
liuzzi


* starts from pit lane

PS: submissions close at 1am BST! :cool:

Charlie-Bravo

I'll have a go at this...might be way off but here goes:

1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Jarno Trulli
3.Lewis Hamilton
4. Nick Heidfeld
5. Kimi Räikkönen
6. Nico Rosberg
7. Robert Kubica
8. Jaime Alguersuari
9. Adrian Sutil
10. Rubens Barrichello
11. Giancarlo Fisichella
12. Jenson Button
13. Sebastien Buemi
14. Kazuki Nakajima
15. Fernando Alonso
16. Romain Grosjean
17. Heikki Kovalainen
18. Vitantonio Liuzzi
19. Mark Webber (Pit Lane)
20. Timo Glock (Pit Lane) ( or Kobayashi if FIA grant it)

IM0

anyone with eagle eyes or more appropriately photographic memory see which order button, barrichello, sutil and alonso crossed the yellow flag 'of confusion' after buemi's 'incident'

Charlie-Bravo

thats the problem...I haven't a clue of the order of 'the crossing of the yellow flag' zone.

Plus when did Buemi cause a hinderence to the other cars on track while getting back to the pits...was this before or after any of these cars went through!?

IM0

they should just throw out the results and go by Practice 3 or something! its Madness and I do not envy who is going to make the call as to the final grid order..god help him if he gets it 'wrong' a driver title being on the line and all..

and he must have hindered them after they went through the zone of accident and then came accross a hobbled Torro R.

lendrew1

me@ucd wrote: »

So what a headache the FAI have regarding re-arranging the grid after all the penanlties have been handed out.

Didn't know they were in charge of F1!:P

TheChrisD

Right, so bearing in mind current lineup and penalties:

Vettel
Trulli
Hamilton
Sutil +5 (penalty - yellow flag)
Barrichello +5 (penalty - yellow flag)
Heidfeld
Button +5 (penalty - yellow flag)
Raikkonen
Kovalainen +5 (gearbox)
Buemi +5 (idiocy)
Rosberg
Alonso +5 (penalty - yellow flag)
Kubica
Glock
Alguersuari
Fisichella
Nakajima
Grosjean
Liuzzi +5 (gearbox)
Webber

Per Article 36.2 of the sporting regulations:

c) Once the grid has been established in accordance with a) and b) above, grid position penalties will be
applied to the drivers in question in the order the offences were committed. If more than one driver
incurs a penalty under Article 28.4a) or Article 28.6a) preference will be given to the driver whose
team first informed the technical delegate that an engine or gearbox change will be carried out.
d) Any driver who incurs a penalty under Article 28.4c) will take precedence over any driver whose
qualifying times have been deleted for any reason.
If more than one driver falls into a single category in b) or d) above they will be arranged on the grid in
numerical order.

Should work out like this, I hope taking into consideration that all the drivers penalized were done so simultaneously and are penalized in grid order, before Kova's gearbox change and then Liuzzi's (not that his makes any difference!):

1. Vettel
2. Trulli
3. Hamilton
4. Heidfeld
5. Raikkonen
6. Sutil
7. Barrichello
8. Rosberg
9. Button
10. Kubica
11. Kovalainen
12. Alguersuari
13. Buemi
14. Fisichella
15. Nakajima
16. Alonso
17. Grosjean
18. Liuzzi
19. Webber (Pit Lane)
20. Glock (DNS)

Ghost Train

my guess

1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Jarno Trulli
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Nick Heidfeld
5. Kimi Räikkönen
6. Nico Rosberg
7. Robert Kubica
8. Adrian Sutil
9. Rubens Barrichello
10. Jaime Alguersuari
11. Jenson Button
12. Giancarlo Fisichella
13. Heikki Kovalainen
14. Sebastien Buemi
15. Kazuki Nakajima
16. Romain Grosjean
17. Fernando Alonso
18. Vitantonio Liuzzi
19. Timo Glock (Pit Lane)
20. Mark Webber (Pit Lane)

Lucy Lu

Last I heard was it will be an hour before race before FIA will announce the official grid.

amacachi

Here ye go!

1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 658.5kg
2. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 655.5
3. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 656
4. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 660
5. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 661
6. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 660.5
7. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 684.5
8. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 650
9. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 686
10. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 658.5
11. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 675
12. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 682.5
13. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 665.4
14. Giancarlo Fisichella, Ferrari, 661.5
15. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 695.7
16. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 689.5
17. Romain Grosjean, Renault, 691.8
18. Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India, 682.5
19. Mark Webber, Red Bull, n/a

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/10/10041.html

No Glock.