Is the M15A1 vietnam worth 300 euro?

Sgt.pepper

i really want to get the look of a american troop in vietnam
but only thing is that the gun is 300 euro which i think is too much
is it worth it?
anyone who has this gun want to tell me if it is good
thanks

Masada

nah i wouldn't touch it, unless you dont mind changing out the gears and piston. not a huge job but very necessary. it looks the part but the trades aren't right and the paint can chip.

my first choice would be the G&P one, or even the TM but thats made from plastic.

Puding

i would vote for the g&p lovely bit of kit

Sgt.pepper

g and p?
is it good and affordable ?

Masada

Its about as expencive as the CA i would say. Its probably the best Vietnam era M16 you'll get.

Heres one. The M16A1
http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product-info.php?id=3308

Edit, Heres the slab sided reciever M16 VN too,
http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product-info.php?id=3306

Then theres the XM177,
http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product-info.php?id=3305

Sgt.pepper

ahh damn
if i had 300 euro i might aswell buy a m60 lol
anyway any other suggestions for a similar m16 gun

Puding

if i had 300 euro i might aswell buy a m60 lol

depends a m16 is always going to far more practical to be honest, a vietnam m60 is heavy and bulky and i;ve seen a lot of people buy a support weapon and use it a couple of times and then leave it in the cupboard

Masada

yup, great fun for a few mins until you realize you have to carry it all day.,

Its also gonna be a bit more than 300 quid aswell.

Lemming

Puding wrote: »

depends a m16 is always going to far more practical to be honest, a vietnam m60 is heavy and bulky and i;ve seen a lot of people buy a support weapon and use it a couple of times and then leave it in the cupboard

Masada wrote: »

yup, great fun for a few mins until you realize you have to carry it all day.,

Sorry, somebody was saying about having to carry a pig all day and then leaving it in a cupboard? Mind you Puding, the real question to ak is not how heavy and bulky you found the m60VN; it's whether or not you had an ear-splitting grin on your face when you fired it (we'll forget what happened next for purposes of this conversation :P )

Sgt.Pepper, the G&P m16 is a lovely piece of kit, as is their xm177, although can be a bit temperamental until the internals (good as they are stock) get a going over. Both are iconic and instantly recognisable pieces of history. I'm holding out to see what the GBB variants bring to the table (there are very early and very expensive xm177's knocking about already, but they're using the more modern sickle-shape magazines, not the original 'box' mags)

Firekitten

I love my g&p m16vn... great piece of kit... frankly, wouldnt touch the TM with a barge pole, ancient design, never been revisited by tm, and its barrel is a piece of PIPE inside the handguards... and the body wont take a new front end...

Puding

Sorry, somebody was saying about having to carry a pig all day and then leaving it in a cupboard? Mind you Puding, the real question to ak is not how heavy and bulky you found the m60VN; it's whether or not you had an ear-splitting grin on your face when you fired it (we'll forget what happened next for purposes of this conversation )

yes we will forget that bit

your one of the few people who i;ve seen use a support weapon correctly, most of the people i;ve seen buy them do leave them in a cupboard or run around using them like an assult rifile

Spetzcong

I'd vote for the G&P too, beautiful gun, on my long list. As far as people getting a support gun and never using it, bah, quitters, although I will say the role of support gunner is not for everyone. They are heavy, bulky, no use in an assault, and not hugely effective for getting loads of kills, the idea is more about area denial and keeping peoples heads down. You will get kills with a support weapon sure, but your primary job is distracting/harassing the enemy while other more manouverable types on your team close for the kill. It's all about winning the firefight.

TerrorFirmer

If moneys an issue you could look at the AGM one. Yes, it's historically quite inaccurate, but it has the most recognizable feature of the VN - the handgrip. I know some people say not to bother, but honestly, if you just casually like the look, why not? I never really get how some people try to passionately force their own requirements onto others...we don't all need 100% historical replicas (just to clarify not saying that about this particular discussion, nothing but good advice here. Just that it does happen from time to time that people dismiss incorrect replicas based on inaccuracies and their own expectations). I wanted the A1 as well, but in the end I couldn't justify getting an expensive one because while I wanted one, it wouldn't get a whole lot of use - and the TM one for example is a bit of an off color and is also plastic body. The AGM is cheap, metal body, good internals, heavy weight - on the con side, you have historical inaccuracies (pistol grip, body/carry handle, flash hider, etc) and I wouldn't trust it to take too much of a beating to be honestly, particularly the hand guard area seems fragile in comparison to other models and liable to split or crack under any stress. But for 150 euro, it's pretty good. I got short mags for a fiver apiece for it.

This isn't a great picture but it gives you an idea what it looks like...I have to say overall I'm very happy with it and it was very cheap. Just an idea for you, maybe.

Gatling

the op is looking to do a full "NAM"load out so he will be looking for the most accurate aeg he cant find for the look,
so for the M16 VN for me the flashhider ,the (revolutionary in its day intergrated carry handle) and handguard is exactly what he is looking for ,yeah you could pick up an M16A 3-4 with detactable handle sight ,brass deflector and just switch the handguard and end up not looking right,
Jg have an affordable VN too ,or if you have to go the route of doing it yourself G&P Vn reciever ,Guarder,do both for around 100euro or you could go all out with a pricey suppost be be the best Hurricane reciever

mafiaboy

i got the m15a1 ca as my frist AEG in 2007 and iv used it last week and never had a prob with it. now in saying the guy that sold it to me (tony in eirsoft) said to me at the take aim cup that most of them where returned with all sorts of probs and that i was one of the lucky ones ps i payed 300 for it as well...

Firekitten

Gatling wrote: »

the op is looking to do a full "NAM"load out so he will be looking for the most accurate aeg he cant find for the look,
so for the M16 VN for me the flashhider ,the (revolutionary in its day intergrated carry handle) and handguard is exactly what he is looking for ,yeah you could pick up an M16A 3-4 with detactable handle sight ,brass deflector and just switch the handguard and end up not looking right,
Jg have an affordable VN too ,or if you have to go the route of doing it yourself G&P Vn reciever ,Guarder,do both for around 100euro or you could go all out with a pricey suppost be be the best Hurricane reciever

or he could buy a g&p m16vn which is period accurate for the early issue one...

Its cheaper than the m15a1 too..

Masada

The ones made by JG and Agm aren't actually VN's, their M16A1's. The only proper VN I can think of is the G&P but it's not completely accurate. The colour isn't right., My own one is a G&P that I ran over with the scotch-lite to lighten the colouring and make the gun look used.,Nits about the closest you'll get to the real VN (slab sided receiver unlike the A1).,

Firekitten

they arent a1s.... iirc, the JG is an a2 upper, and the AGM is an m16a3 with vn handgurds being the only difference... fail.

Masada

"Meant" to be A1's, as in not an M16VN., there's quite a difference.,

TheDoc

Another vote for G&P here.

I'm still waiting to get off me whole and order the front end, but I have the body currently on G&G internals, and it looks gorgous, realistic and authentic.

It is pricey, but its the sort of loadout you put together piece by piece, month by month.

You dont have to jump into it straight away.

gandalf

I actually have a CA one bought in 2007 and it is a great gun, never had an issue and has a great rof and is very accurate. I guess I was lucky as well because CA have a dreadful name.

Sgt.pepper

i would love a m60
just having the feeling of spraying people with bbs running cross a field gives me chills
but still looking all over the place for a m16 vietnam style
i was considering a m14 but meh not my gun

thatmadyoke

tokyo marui m16A1 for 240 if your interested probably better than the CA version and cheaper check out my threads if your interested:)

Gatling

thatmadyoke wrote: »

tokyo marui m16A1 for 240 if your interested probably better than the CA version and cheaper check out my threads if your interested:)

they were retailing for around 145e here

firesupport in the uk have the G&P Vn for 250stg ,dear santa added to my xmas list

defenderdude

Gatling wrote: »

they were retailing for around 145e here

+1
Yep, I and quite a few others here bought them also. Nice aeg and great value too but the inevitable barrel wobble that comes into em is a bit frustrating (when your used to metal bodied one piece outer barrels)

I'd love to get a metal body for it.

MacAonghusa

Have a TM M16VN and very happy with, just don't have much use for it, but nice gun anyway.