Optional Oral Irish for Jun Cert

Fishy1

Hi,
Just wondering if many schools allow students to do the optional oral Irish exam as part of their Junior Cert exam.
My child wants to do it, but the school won't allow it :mad:

suitcasepink

It was never done in my school but this year my Irish teacher said shes going to look into us doing it. In my school anyway I'd say it would be hard because even though we do a bit of oral it really wouldnt be enough for the J.C

spurious

Are you sure it's not the SEC that won't allow the school to do it?
Isn't it in a pilot phase?*


*I may be wrong about that.

CookieMonster.x

My teacher said it would have to be a whole year doing it, not just one person.

Fad

I looked into to doing it when I did the JC and it's not exactly supported by many schools for a couple of reasons.

From what I was told by the school:

School has to organise the examiners themselves, which is open to all sorts of abuse, which means the schools just dont want to go there.

There's no real advantage (Other than being made learn how to speak) as the 60 marks (or however many) going for the oral are added on, on top of the existing marks for the non-optional sections (eg if it's 300 going for it over, I cant remember exactly, you get marked out 360)

Now it's been 3 and a half years since I looked into the whole thing, but they're the conclusions I drew from it then.

Fishy1

Thanks for your replies. My child had gone to the gaeltacht for the past 2 summers & just wanted a chance to do the oral. This year's Junior certs will be the first to do the revised Leaving Cert Irish programme, where 40% will be awarded for the oral. It just doesn't make sense that they can't do it for Junior Cert unless the school is willing to let them :mad: .
Rant over !

jumpguy

It's in a pilot phase and really you can't blame the school for not doing it.

The fact your child spent two years in the Gaeltacht will benefit him/her much more in the Leaving Cert than in than the Junior Cert anyway.

Fad

Fishy1 wrote: »

Thanks for your replies. My child had gone to the gaeltacht for the past 2 summers & just wanted a chance to do the oral. This year's Junior certs will be the first to do the revised Leaving Cert Irish programme, where 40% will be awarded for the oral. It just doesn't make sense that they can't do it for Junior Cert unless the school is willing to let them :mad: .
Rant over !

Relax, and consider yourself lucky. Your child gets to do a leaving where being able to communicate will be given a meaningful percentage of the exam.

I could easily go on a tangent about how outraged I was when I heard that I wouldnt be given that chance, but kindly, I'll refrain.

Luno

Theres already enough pressure with the rest of the Irish exam then to have an extra thing to do, if it was that it was compulsary to do an oral exam I'm sure there would be someone saying the opposite of what you are now.

yea_kid

i go to an all irish school and i tink the oral irish part of the exam is gud because you'll have a good part of the percentage off your shoulders before u go into the actual exam . . its a pity your son cant do it after going to the gaeltacht . .