Cyclist knocked down on O'Connell St. at 5.30 today

ridertothesea

I passed a cyclist who was lying unconcious on the road right outside the GPO on O'Connell Street at 5.30 today - lots of people round him so I kept moving. Just wondering if anyone knows if he's alright? I didnt see the incident but there was a bike nearby with a seriously mangled front wheel. Didn't see any other participants or vehicles beside him.

NeilMcEoigheann

jeasus thats my route, hope their ok. i don't like O'connel st heading north to many left turns...

Gavin

Staying on the right hand side on O'C St is grand.

buffalo

It's the same as any street, just with more pedestrians.

NeilMcEoigheann wrote: »

jeasus thats my route, hope their ok. i don't like O'connel st heading north to many left turns...

Abbey Street, Princes Street... Henry Street?

gamgsam

Yes, I saw him after, front wheel was completely buckled and the rim actually broke.
Asked him if he was ok ( he was, had a helmet aswell)
What happened was that a pedestrian walked out in front of him. He had no way out except over the bars. Poor chap, the bikes destroyed.
Pedestrian continued on their business apparently. Id be rightly p****d if my wheel was broke

Bit of a wake up for pedestrians, I hope the word spreads, you know how fast that route is

uberwolf

htf his his wheel broke. Aim for the softest part of your obstruction (presuming young and healthy looking) tbh.

DirkVoodoo

I was cycling down carysfort avenue yesterday, going at a good speed, but still well below a car travelling within the speed limit and these two women pushed their prams out in front of me and crossed the road. I didn't shout or say how stupid I thought they were, would they have done the same if it were a car or why not cross at the lights further down...but I can see why it happens, I think a lot of people see "bike" and assume it's going slowly enough that they can stroll out and cross the road safely.

ollaetta

It never ceases to amaze me how other road users and pedestrians totally underestimate the speed of bikes. Cars coming out of side roads and jay walkers are the worst.

I commute along Clanbrassil Street/New Street in the mornings and I have never seen a worse stretch anywhere for jay walking (luckily, I don't need to use O'Connell Street).

Chips Lovell

I end up in the right hand lane most of the time on O'Connell Street. You avoid the pedestrians walking out in front of you and the constnat stoppages due to buses pulling in and out.

SerialComplaint

I find lots of cars underestimate my speed, and overtake me then cut me off. A blue Merc pulled past me on the bottom of Dundrum Road yesterday, just over Milltown Bridge and then forced me to brake as he turned into Whitebeam.

seamus

SerialComplaint wrote: »

I find lots of cars underestimate my speed, and overtake me then cut me off. A blue Merc pulled past me on the bottom of Dundrum Road yesterday, just over Milltown Bridge and then forced me to brake as he turned into Whitebeam.

Motorcyclists have the same problem with pedestrians and other vehicles. The narrow front profile of bikes and motorbikes makes it more difficult to correctly estimate their speed, yet most people aren't aware of this and assume that a singe glance will tell them, when in fact a quick glance will usually result in a severe underestimation of the rider's speed.

Jip

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

would they have done the same if it were a car or why not cross at the lights further down...but I can see why it happens, I think a lot of people see "bike" and assume it's going slowly enough that they can stroll out and cross the road safely.

Absolutely, I only had an 'incident' yesterday evening in Blanchardstown Village. Coming towards the junction at the Bell pub from the direction of Scotts Roundabout and had the green light. It still didn't stop the stupid bitch coming from the village side waiting to turn right pulling across infront of me causing me to slam on the brakes and stop in the middle of the junction even though it was obvious to her I was coming. She had one of those sheepish faces that said she knew she was doing wrong but the silly cow still continued on through. Her passenger worded 'sorry' to me but it didn't stop me telling her what I thought of her.

penexpers

SerialComplaint wrote: »

I find lots of cars underestimate my speed, and overtake me then cut me off. A blue Merc pulled past me on the bottom of Dundrum Road yesterday, just over Milltown Bridge and then forced me to brake as he turned into Whitebeam.

Taking the lane whenever there's a left turn coming up greatly decreases the occurance of this I find.

TimAllen

@Penexpers: Are you saying that you deliberately "take the lane" if you see a left turn coming up - just in case someone wishes to use it - bearing in mind that the traffic behind you might just want to go straight ahead?

seamus

TimAllen wrote: »

@Penexpers: Are you saying that you deliberately "take the lane" if you see a left turn coming up - just in case someone wishes to use it - bearing in mind that the traffic behind you might just want to go straight ahead?

I'll certainly do it in particular circumstances, not all of them, but particularly in heavy traffic or where the turn is a busy one, taking the lane about 50m before the turn is better for everyone.

TimAllen

seamus wrote: »

I'll certainly do it in particular circumstances, not all of them, but particularly in heavy traffic or where the turn is a busy one, taking the lane about 50m before the turn is better for everyone.

better for everyone ???? That takes some beating for tunnel vision!

Lumen

petethedrummer

TimAllen wrote: »

@Penexpers: Are you saying that you deliberately "take the lane" if you see a left turn coming up - just in case someone wishes to use it - bearing in mind that the traffic behind you might just want to go straight ahead?

When you are coming up to a left turn and it is safe to do so you move out a little or alot to the right, to make a car think twice about cutting you up. Of course it depends on the turn in question and previous experience of being cut up. most left turns are grand to go past close to the kerb. Is it that hard to visualise?

Anyways, when are you buying a bike Tim? For the amount of time you spend on here I really think you should take the plunge.

markpb

TimAllen wrote: »

@Penexpers: Are you saying that you deliberately "take the lane" if you see a left turn coming up - just in case someone wishes to use it - bearing in mind that the traffic behind you might just want to go straight ahead?

Is he saying he will take the legally correct road position in order to make himself visible to motorists behind thus preventing an accident? Yes.

Will you next complaint be that cyclists "appear out of nowhere" and "filter carelessly through traffic"?

seamus

TimAllen wrote: »

better for everyone ???? That takes some beating for tunnel vision!

A driver approaching a left turn (with the intention of taking it), sees the cyclist and can often be undecided or not completely sure about whether it would be possible to overtake in time. Taking the lane effectively makes the decision for him, making sure that everyone's safer. Not taking the lane will often result in the driver making the wrong decision and overtaking when it is not safe to do so, or needlessly sitting behind the cyclist while cursing himself about the ample time he had to perform the manouver.

A driver approaching a left turn without the intention of taking it can equally be uneasy about the presence of a cyclist because a cyclist's road position or approach often changes at the junction due to the road conditions (or sometimes they're drifters/idiots). If the cyclist takes the lane, all doubt is removed as to the cyclists intentions and returning to the side of the road after the junction (known as the secondary position) allows the driver to proceed on his merry way.

In the latter case, the driver loses two seconds of his life but all chances of anyone being injured are eliminated. Better for everyone.

petethedrummer

TimAllen wrote: »

better for everyone ???? That takes some beating for tunnel vision!

well the greater good might be better served by a cyclist not being side swiped and the motorist not having a side swiped cyclist lying on the ground to deal with. But if 10/20 seconds of delay outweighs this, then you have very different priorities than I.

Of course you ghave taken a simple post and assumed the cyclist only has the delaying of motorists on his mind.

Jumpy

TimAllen wrote: »

better for everyone ???? That takes some beating for tunnel vision!

Who the F@%k said his name?

Chips Lovell

Cautious Cyclist Causes Minor Delay? Stop the pressess. Honestly lads, it's a very poor excuse for a row.

petethedrummer

el tonto wrote: »

Cautious Cyclist causes minor delay? Stop the pressess. Honestly lads, it's a very poor excuse for a row.

Is there another parallel universe where TimAllen didn't run out of petrol and some dope didn't cycle into the back of him and he isn't posting on the boards cycling forum?

If yes, how do I get there?

alfalad

el tonto wrote: »

Honestly lads, it's a very poor excuse for a row.

It is Friday though.

The Oggmonster

Out for my lunch, and just outside Arnotts at the Abbey Street side a women stepped right out in front of a cyclist. They both ended up in a tangle on the ground and the pedestrian wasn't moving her arm. Looks like she could have sprained or even broke it.

Why do people think that because they can't hear a car there must be nothing coming? I always look both ways when crossing a road, even on a one way street.

When I'm cycling, I always cycle fairly slowly when I see people up ahead as I know they could just step out without warning.

petethedrummer

el tonto wrote: »

Cautious Cyclist causes minor delay? Stop the pressess. Honestly lads, it's a very poor excuse for a row.

Maybe the driver was in a rush to get to a computer to complain about cyclists on boards.

blorg

cosmic

The Oggmonster wrote: »

When I'm cycling, I always cycle fairly slowly when I see people up ahead as I know they could just step out without warning.

I use a bell! It's one of those really tinny loud old school ones. I ding it any time I see a pedestrian who looks like they're going to take that step down. It may be a bit obnoxious but most of the time it works. It's also handy to just ding away sometimes if I'm in the bike lane cycling alongside lines and lines of stopped traffic - pedestrians weaving in and out of these cars to cross the road are lethal if you're going at speed and with unnecessary jeeps and suvs sometimes you can't see over them.

Ding ding...

happy_acid_face

The Oggmonster wrote: »

When I'm cycling, I always cycle fairly slowly when I see people up ahead as I know they could just step out without warning.

Yeah, for all the stupid pedestrians I find there is awful lot of stupid cyclists that speed through town, in particular O'Connell Street. As the advert goes, expect the unexpected...

DirkVoodoo

I was cycling along a cycle path I don't normally use the other day and a bus driver let someone out in traffic, not at a stop. He popped off gingerly in front of me. Cue swerving and cursing.

If you were let out (illegally) in traffic, why would you not look before getting off the bus? Pedestrians simply turn their backs as if "if I can't see it, it can't hurt me".

JacksonHeightsOwn

just copped this thread, i know the guy that fell off his bike, he`s grand besides a cut on his elbow, and sore ribs

he said some chick just walked out in front of him ,and when he hit his breaks, his wheel just buckled underneath him,

i was talking to him the day after it happened, he was still shaken up, but he`s getting a new bike anyway this weekend, so all is good

DirkVoodoo

chrisbonnie wrote: »

just copped this thread, i know the guy that fell off his bike, he`s grand besides a cut on his elbow, and sore ribs

he said some chick just walked out in front of him ,and when he hit his breaks, his wheel just buckled underneath him,

i was talking to him the day after it happened, he was still shaken up, but he`s getting a new bike anyway this weekend, so all is good

Was she hot? Could be a good way to meet someone...note to self, plough bike into hot looking girls.

Chips Lovell

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

note to self, plough bike into hot looking girls.

Let us know how that goes for you.

DirkVoodoo

el tonto wrote: »

Let us know how that goes for you.

Will do. I was thinking more of making a bee line, then falling off before actually making contact.

Huggles

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

I was cycling along a cycle path I don't normally use the other day and a bus driver let someone out in traffic, not at a stop. He popped off gingerly in front of me. Cue swerving and cursing.

If you were let out (illegally) in traffic, why would you not look before getting off the bus? Pedestrians simply turn their backs as if "if I can't see it, it can't hurt me".

Exact same thing happened to me on Thursday morning, only I found myself lying on my side in traffic, still clipped to the bike, bus driver laughing. TWAT!

Chips Lovell

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

Will do. I was thinking more of making a bee line, then falling off before actually making contact.

A cunning plan. You going to pull the patented Voodoo puppy dog eyes when you come off the bike?

petethedrummer

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

Was she hot? Could be a good way to meet someone...note to self, plough bike into hot looking girls.

I have done something similar. I fell off my bike while looking at a hot girl. She asked was I ok. I said I was.

We'll always have that moment.

DirkVoodoo

el tonto wrote: »

A cunning plan. You going to pull the patented Voodoo puppy dog eyes when you come off the bike?

No, I'm thinking the far less subtle Dirk pants drop will impress her more. We'll see, these are all details that i will worry about when I see the hot girl and entice her to j-walk.

Chips Lovell

Sure what girl could resist that.

DirkVoodoo

el tonto wrote: »

Sure what girl could resist that.

Resist is a very strong word. It gets their attention though.

Lumen

chrisbonnie wrote: »

he said some chick just walked out in front of him ,and when he hit his breaks, his wheel just buckled underneath him

Mavic should use this scenario in its R-SYS marketing.

Chips Lovell

Q: What do blondes and golden retrievers have in common?

A: Both can cause you to total your front wheel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT7f6Ac3FHI

lukester

A hot chick stepped out in front of me on the quays last year. Sharp braking ensued, and we ended up in a near embrace for a few moments as my saddle hovered up near my shoulders.

I'm spoken for in the hot chick dept, but it did occur to me that it could be a reasonable ploy for making their acquaintance for those of us un attached. Or into photography.

Lumen

lukester wrote: »

A hot chick stepped out in front of me on the quays last year. Sharp braking ensued, and we ended up in a near embrace for a few moments as my saddle hovered up near my shoulders.

I'm spoken for in the hot chick dept, but it did occur to me that it could be a reasonable ploy for making their acquaintance for those of us un attached. Or into photography.

Perhaps she stepped out on purpose? Is there a hot chicks forum where they talk about how to ensnare hot cyclists?

....

I tried finding it on Google, but got sidetracked.

TimAllen

petethedrummer wrote: »

Is there another parallel universe where TimAllen didn't run out of petrol and some dope didn't cycle into the back of him and he isn't posting on the boards cycling forum?

If yes, how do I get there?

Simple, take your head out of your swiss roll, and follow the yellow brick road - but keep in towards the kerb and dont hold up the real traffic.
If you ask him, the wizard might grant you your wish, for a big set of steel ones!!!!:D

Jumpy

Second star on the left and straight on till morning pete.

petethedrummer

TimAllen wrote: »

Simple, take your head out of your swiss roll, and follow the yellow brick road - but keep in towards the kerb and dont hold up the real traffic.
If you ask him, the wizard might grant you your wish, for a big set of steel ones!!!!:D

Brilliant comeback.

DirkVoodoo

petethedrummer wrote: »

Brilliant comeback.

I like the way he got something about holding up traffic in there, classic Tim!

Nuts, its saturday morning...he is gone for another week.

petethedrummer

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

I like the way he got something about holding up traffic in there, classic Tim!

Nuts, its saturday morning...he is gone for another week.

Off to video tape cyclists, I'd say.