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Build Garage or go Steel?

  • 26-09-2009 7:57pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    Looking to put up a Garage 40X20ft and have planning permission - finding it difficult to get a builders price on it but someone recommended going to look at Steel Sheds .. was not keen but went to <please don't mention suppliers name> and price came at 13k for insulated shed that size and not sure what the build price will be to compare yet.

    The garage will be used for gym area as well so important that its insulated and no condensation .... anyone had any experience with the steel sheds?

    Price will be the decision maker in the end - the steel sheds do have a 'work' like look to them which is a downside.

    Thanks for any comments


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    It depends on your needs, really. What is the eaves height of the steel shed? If you are putting a gym in there it is likely that you will get condensation inside the steel shed.

    On the other hand you will not build a conventional cavity blockwork 12.2m x 6.1m garage for under €18-20,000., imo.

    Please do not mention suppliers names in your posts, take a minute and read the Charter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    You could NON drip roof sheeting instead of insulated. Would be a lot cheaper. Then again 13k seems a bit high for a 40x20 portal frame building, I imagine it would be using IPE 180 RSJ's?

    You can do a 30ft wide by 3, 15'9 Bays for around 6900.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    DinaElla wrote: »

    Price will be the decision maker in the end - the steel sheds do have a 'work' like look to them which is a downside.

    Thanks for any comments

    Depending on how you go about building walls in between the Uprights you could get the manufacturer to simply weld the cleats for the side purlines (steel or timber) in a manner which allows your wall to hide the uprights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    You could NON drip roof sheeting instead of insulated. Would be a lot cheaper. Then again 13k seems a bit high for a 40x20 portal frame building, I imagine it would be using IPE 180 RSJ's?

    You can do a 30ft wide by 3, 15'9 Bays for around 6900.

    Hi Ronan, I didn't see you in a while....:),

    What you describe with the 4.8m bays is typical agricultural type construction, very robust and fantastically strong.

    The shed the Op is referring to is a small box or angle frame covered in insulated sheeting to the ground all around, usually bolted down to a slab. Very flimsey in comparison to what you speak of.

    For the Agri type construction you will then need to provide floor, foundations, side walls, doors and window, etc.
    Depending on how you go about building walls in between the Uprights you could get the manufacturer to simply weld the cleats for the side purlines (steel or timber) in a manner which allows your wall to hide the uprights.

    Personally I wouldn't be bothered to hide the stantions, you will see hairline cracks in the blockwork from windshakes eventually anyway, the defined break of the stantions acts as an expansion joint.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭DinaElla


    Thanks for your comments and apologies for naming the company.

    Condensation and heat would be my biggest concerns - as in too hot in summer and too cold in winter which would not be ideal.

    If the pricing was close enough I would go for the conventional blockwork garage but struggling to get prices at the moment .. hopefully this week.

    We have an extension to do off the kitchen so I'm hoping to get get both done at the same time .. I just thought the steel sheds might be a cost saving solution but no point of going cheaper if I end up with something not usable.

    minefield !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Just reread the OP, forgot to even think about the other type of steel frame :) That said a nice A Frame beside the house would look just the job :)

    Im those light steel framed sheds are going for that money even with insulated sheeting I think its time to stop making arigultural/industrial sheds!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    If your planning to go steel, make sure that there isn't a condition on your planning requiring the external finishes of the building to be consistant with the house.

    Keep in mind the problems with condensation and insulation with steel sheds especially if you are using it as a gym but there is also obviously a big difference in cost so it's down to your budget really.


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