On JSA....Now Offered Casual Work.... Entitled To Keep JSA??

dlambirl

Right O, here goes....

My brother has been on JSB since last year, which changed to JSA cos he ran outta contributions. He just recieved his medical card and has applied for Mortgage Interest Supplement a couple of weeks ago (I know that should of been done a year ago but anyway...)

To cut a long story short he's after been offered some work. Now it could be a day this week, 2 days the week after, none the week after that and 5 days the next - he'll be working when its busy. (Is casual work the name for that???)

The people in the company told him today that he should still be able to sign for the days he isnt working, but is this right??? I thought you only got that if you were after losing a substancial part of your income from reduced hours. They also said that by working only a couple of days that he should be able to keep his medical card and mortgage interest supplement (if he's approved), but if he's earning any money are you still eligable??

He's gonna go into the Social Welfare Office tomorrow and tell them, but I'd just like to know what he should expect them to say....

Does anyone here know what he's entitled to....if anything???

Xiney

Get him to go to Citizen's Information instead.

If he gets a grouchy person at social and they think he's refused a suitable job because he'd lose his benefits he could lose his benefits anyway.

dlambirl

Xiney,

He's taking the job, he hates being on benefits and this last while was getting very down at home.

What i'm just curious is... for the days he's not working with this job, say 2 days this week, 4 the next, none the next will he be entitled to money from the Social Welfare??

What i mean is.... he could make more in 3 days than what he recieved on JSA and he wouldnt mind not recieving anything from the social welfare those weeks but what about the weeks he'll only work 1 day or no days at all - will he get something???

Bicycle

Your brother should end up in the "Casual" section. He will get forms to have signed by his employers each week, stating whether he worked or not. These forms can either be dropped into a box in the DSW office or handed in to the casual hatch.

AFAIK, he will be entitled to be paid provided he doesn't (a) earn more than €200 per week or (b) work more than 3 days per week.

dlambirl

Thats brilliant thanks.

He's gonna go in tomorrow and see what they say.

Cos he's on JSA he'll be mean tested for Casual JSA.
I've seen the worksheets on the websites and its difficult to see what my brother could earn cos its paid by the hour and not every day will be the same hours and not every week will have the same amount of days!!

Awe well, hopefully it'll all work out for him

Mrs OBumble

The poster above about him going to the casual section is correct, except that:

- the dockets don't have to be signed by the employer any more (they changed the form)

- I'm not aware of any E200/week income limit (and can't see how they could enforce one, since they don't know what you're earning each week).


Also, he'll get benefit for the days he doesn't work (excluding Sunday). So if he gets 2 days work in a week, he'll get 4 days benefit (ie total *4/6) for the week. Each week starts on the day that he's usually pick up his payment (eg Wed or Thurs, usually). It's absolutely fine that the work is totally random/casual. In fact, it's better - if he's getting 4+ days each week, after a "few" weeks they'll notice and close his claim totally. Which is a pain if the work suddenly dries up.

He won't need to sign-on any more, but will need to complete a docket every week. And instead of a payment at the Post Office, he'll get a cheque in the mail every week.

One thing to be careful of: get the docket in ASAP each week. If it's late, it seems that they assume you weren't working and pay the full amount. This means it's easy to get into an overpayment situation, which is bad karma all around.

dlambirl

JustMary wrote: »

The poster above about him going to the casual section is correct, except that:

- the dockets don't have to be signed by the employer any more (they changed the form)

- I'm not aware of any E200/week income limit (and can't see how they could enforce one, since they don't know what you're earning each week).


Also, he'll get benefit for the days he doesn't work (excluding Sunday). So if he gets 2 days work in a week, he'll get 4 days benefit (ie total *4/6) for the week. Each week starts on the day that he's usually pick up his payment (eg Wed or Thurs, usually). It's absolutely fine that the work is totally random/casual. In fact, it's better - if he's getting 4+ days each week, after a "few" weeks they'll notice and close his claim totally. Which is a pain if the work suddenly dries up.

He won't need to sign-on any more, but will need to complete a docket every week. And instead of a payment at the Post Office, he'll get a cheque in the mail every week.

One thing to be careful of: get the docket in ASAP each week. If it's late, it seems that they assume you weren't working and pay the full amount. This means it's easy to get into an overpayment situation, which is bad karma all around.

Thanks a million JustMary!
I've just rang my brother and told him that and told him to go straight in.

So if he gets a good run of work for a couple of weeks that could f*ck his claim up?? But with the way things have slowed down i dont think that could happen. But hopefully not cos things could be busy for a while and he'd get good work and then just suddenly dry up. I think if he had to go through that waiting and trips in and out to the CWO he'd go mad!!

steve McQueen

If you normally get your JA into the bank, will they continue to pay you in the bank or will they post the cheques out?

dlambirl

I think they send the cheques out for this type of JSA, regardless of what way it was paid out before..