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audi quattro - manual or automatic?

  • 23-09-2009 6:50pm
    #1
    firefly08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭


    I'm planning on buying an A4, A6 or Allroad (definitely quattro no matter which one I go for).

    I was just wondering if there is any difference in the quattro system between the manual and automatic transmission? For instance, I read that the Subaru AWD system is different depending on whether the car manual or automatic - one is mechanically controlled and one is electronic. I don't know which is better though.

    I much prefer manual transmission, all other things being equal, but if there is any advantage to the AWD system on auto versions I'd consider it.


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  • #2
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    I've driven a few of each, and can't think of any appreciable difference from a drivers perspective apart from the obvious.


  • #3
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    firefly08 wrote: »
    I much prefer manual transmission, all other things being equal, but if there is any advantage to the AWD system on auto versions I'd consider it.

    I think you need to separate the two things: auto, and AWD.

    In all cases, imho, AWD is superior to fwd- or rwd-only. Drive one in wet, ice or snow, and you'll appreciate it - even on as innocuous an item as a greasy roundabout.

    Auto vs manual ? LOL, there's no shortage of threads on the subject, but if you think manual is good, AWD will make it better. If you think auto is good, AWD will make it better. See? No wiser, really.........

    AWD systems like the Audi's, being 'intelligent' have an advantage in operating only as required vis-a-vis grip. Arguably less tyre wear, etc., but it is complex.

    The scooby oth, is fundamentally simpler. 6 of one, half-a-dozen of the other, as they say.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #4
    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    You're going for quattro, I'd echo galwaytt's post and say it's defo a worthwhile option.

    Me personally, I'd put manual in the A4 and auto in the A6 & Allroad.

    Think of resale value - you'll find it easier to sell a jar of old scabs than a manual Allroad...


  • #5
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    -Chris- wrote: »
    you'll find it easier to sell a jar of old scabs than a manual Allroad...


    ...ah, poetry, pure poetry I tell ya ! :D

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #6
    Tropheus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭Tropheus


    I have an Allroad tiptronic which gives the best of both worlds. I'd highly recommend it.

    I'd agree with Chris's opinion re trying to sell a manual Allroad. Very few manuals around and they tend to stay for sale for a long time.


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  • #7
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    ksimpson wrote: »
    I have an Allroad tiptronic which gives the best of both worlds. I'd highly recommend it.

    I'd agree with Chris's opinion re trying to sell a manual Allroad. Very few manuals around and they tend to stay for sale for a long time.

    Good God, Chris is on a roll !

    According to PAGE 4 of this, no fewer than 9 were SCRAPPED under the Cash For Clunkers programme !

    LOL Chris, you're right - pass that jar of scabs right along ! :D

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #8
    ikillcopiers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭ikillcopiers


    galwaytt wrote: »
    AWD systems like the Audi's, being 'intelligent' have an advantage in operating only as required vis-a-vis grip. Arguably less tyre wear, etc., but it is complex.

    That only applies to the A3/TT line, due to the east west engine layout.
    They use a Haldex system, company in Sweden if I remember correctly.
    That's why a lot of the old guard Audi pilots didn't like the TT etc,
    it has a more artificial feel as the computer decides when and where
    to place the power.

    The A4's and up all have north south engine layout, and use the proper
    Audi quattro system with the Torsen central diff.
    It's effectively the same design and layout as the UR Quattro from the 80's,
    no more complex to be honest asides from a few sensors.

    Allroads are difficult to sell it seems, but if you get an automatic TDI
    quattro A6 you shouldn't have big issue selling it down the road.
    Not too expensive if you go to the UK either.....


  • #9
    HashSlinging
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Good God, Chris is on a roll !

    According to PAGE 4 of this, no fewer than 9 were SCRAPPED under the Cash For Clunkers programme !

    Off topic but

    A4 Cabriolet Quattro 2006 1

    Surely thats got to be the worst case of clunker going..


  • #10
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    HashSlinging wrote: »
    Off topic but

    A4 Cabriolet Quattro 2006 1

    Surely thats got to be the worst case of clunker going..
    Completely OT indeed, but there's a DB7 Volante in there as well. Anyway, start a new thread if you like.;)


  • #11
    firefly08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭firefly08


    Thanks everyone. Actually I didn't mention, I'm buying it in the States, as I'm living here for a year or so. All the Allroads and A6s within a reasonable distance are automatic anyway. There are a few manual A4s out there. I get the impression manuals are harder to sell here, but hopefully that should work in my favor when I go to buy it too.

    But either way it won't be a TDI that's for sure! It's petrol all the way over here.
    Everything uses petrol - even the 7 litre pickups.


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  • #12
    HashSlinging
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Get down to where these Cash For Clunkers yards are and nab one before they all get destoryed! ;)


  • #13
    babyjames
    Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭babyjames


    Hi Firefly I just sold a 2.4 v6 A6 quattro, It had a triptronic gearbox ( Automatic) I never had any problems with it power or maintanence wise But in my (limited) experiance a manual is quicker at getting the power out when taking off overtaking etc don't know if this is of any use to you

    Rgds
    firefly08 wrote: »
    I'm planning on buying an A4, A6 or Allroad (definitely quattro no matter which one I go for).

    I was just wondering if there is any difference in the quattro system between the manual and automatic transmission? For instance, I read that the Subaru AWD system is different depending on whether the car manual or automatic - one is mechanically controlled and one is electronic. I don't know which is better though.

    I much prefer manual transmission, all other things being equal, but if there is any advantage to the AWD system on auto versions I'd consider it.


  • #14
    ToxicPaddy
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭ToxicPaddy


    -Chris- wrote: »
    ..you'll find it easier to sell a jar of old scabs than a manual Allroad...

    There goes me lunch!! :p


  • #15
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    The US ? Pointless having a manual in the US. Got help you if you ever need a clutch......they won't know which end to look at........

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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