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Hand hygiene gels, are they prohibited in hand-luggage

  • 21-09-2009 8:45am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8


    Do EU Liquids Regulations ban the alcohol based gels?

    One lighter per person is OK, so are perfumes and hair spray under 100ml.

    What about those gels?

    Can you quote an official document to justify the reply? I need more than just an impression or a feeling or a "logical conclusion"...

    thanks beforhand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Flammable liquids are not allowed and those are flammable.

    For safety reasons, the following articles or materials may not be carried in passenger baggage:

    * gases - (compressed, deeply refrigerated, flammable, non flammable, poisonous) such as camping gas, butane, oxygen liquid nitrogen, compressed gas cylinders, aqualung cylinders, aerosols;
    * corrosives - such as acids, alkalis, wet cell batteries, mercury and apparatus containing mercury;
    * explosives - munitions, fireworks and flares, firearms, handguns, ammunition including blank cartridges, pistol caps;
    * flammable liquids and solids - such as lighter fuel or refills, paints, thinners, matches, lighters that need inverting before ignition and other articles which are easily ignited; substances liable to spontaneous combustion; substances which on contact with water emit flammable gases;
    * radioactive materials;
    * briefcases and security type attaché cases - with installed alarm devices; or incorporating lithium batteries and/or pyrotechnic material;
    * oxidising substances - such as bleaching powder and peroxides;
    * poisonous (toxic) and infectious substances - such as insecticides, weedkillers and live virus materials;
    * other dangerous articles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 prony


    But one lighter, and perfume are allowed.
    Both are inflammable.

    These gels do not combust easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    They arent expensive, so you could try and see what they say.
    I dont know which gel you have tried lighting, but the one I had at home lit straight away like sambuca.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭GeturGun


    I flew from Edinburgh last night with one of the 50ml ones from M&S included in my see-thru bag of liquids and there was no issue at all. I just looked at it there and it says flammable on it and the first ingredient is alcohol.
    Never occured to me there might be a problem TBH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 prony


    Jumpy wrote: »
    They arent expensive, so you could try and see what they say.
    I dont know which gel you have tried lighting, but the one I had at home lit straight away like sambuca.

    Main ingredients are Alcohol Denat and Water.
    They are no more flammable than perfume and lighters, surely.

    There is no clear guideline I could find as regards them.
    I have also passed security many times in many countries with it, and no one ever even question them.

    I think they go under cosmetic, not liquid alcohol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 prony


    I just called Dublin Airport and she confirmed that if it is under 100ml, it is allowed.
    But I do not trust she knows what she is talking about as all she had to say was "if it is under 100ml", and she had nothing to say about whether or not alcohol based was an issue.

    I do not trust she knows what she is talking about, but now I really think these gels are OK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I'm pretty sure they sell these airside at most airports, which i'm pretty sure they wouldn't do if they were that dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭digital_d


    I'm pretty sure they sell these airside at most airports, which i'm pretty sure they wouldn't do if they were that dangerous.

    Yep - if your flying thru dublin you can buy them in Boots in the new bit of the loop towards the split for gate A&D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 prony


    prony wrote: »
    Do EU Liquids Regulations ban the alcohol based gels?

    One lighter per person is OK, so are perfumes and hair spray under 100ml.

    What about those gels?

    Can you quote an official document to justify the reply? I need more than just an impression or a feeling or a "logical conclusion"...

    thanks beforhand.

    I write in reply to your email dated 21 September 2009 with regard to the EU Liquid Regulations.



    To protect you against the new threat of liquid explosives, the European Union (EU) in November 2006 introduced new security rules that restrict the amount of liquids that you can take through security checkpoints. These regulations apply to all passengers departing from Airports in the EU whatever their destination.



    Liquids, gels and pastes carried in hand luggage are limited to a maximum size of 100ml per item. All such items must be in a clear plastic bag, the volume of which may not be greater than one litre, 20cmx20cm. There are two exceptions to the rules; baby food needed during the flight and medicines needed during the flight. Further information on the EU Aviation Security Regulations can be found on our website www.dublinairport.com. You may take the gels you referred to in your email provided they meet the above requirements.



    I trust this clarifies the matter you raised in your email.





    Yours sincerely



    Catherine Barber

    Process Improvement Manager


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 prony


    Jumpy wrote: »
    They arent expensive, so you could try and see what they say.
    I dont know which gel you have tried lighting, but the one I had at home lit straight away like sambuca.

    Mine would lit.
    I put it on paper, the paper burned but not the gel.
    It is not the liquidy one, but an actual gel.


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