Leet (1337) Poem

Bag

3y3 s17 h3r3 1n 73h c14ss w]-[1ch tr13z
70 l3rn m3 p037r33.
5k3p71c4l wuz 3y3, j00 s33.
"7h3z3 4gr4m471c cr13z
k0u1d n3v3r r3411i3 s4y 70 m3
73h 7h1ngz 73h p037 m3n7."

*gaspandchoke*! 70 m1 5urpr1z0r,
4z 3y3 r3d 73h b00k
4 p03m 0nc3 m1 f4nci3 700k:
i7 d1dn7 s33m 7o 5uxx0r!

1n c14ss w3 did d1scu55or, 7h0,
w1ch 700k wh47 1 h4d 7h07 4lri73
4nd m4d3 i7 r34lli3 bl0

1ik3 4 s734k, 73h p03mz d3d;
i7 sp33kz 7o m3 n0 m0r3.
3xp1ic47i0n spl4773r3d 0'3r
73h l33tn3ss 1n m1 h3d

7h1s p03m h4z n0 im4g3ri3,
m1 ri3m4g3z r t3h 5uxx0r.
wh0 r34lli3 c4r3z? ju57 r34d i7 d00d!
j00 m1gh7 l13k i7 0r 5ummu7...

pickarooney

I like the way you mix the oldish English with the positively archaic l33t-5p3ak.

Q♪z

Insect Overlord

3p1c \/\/1|\| :cool:

MikeC101

Hmmm..are you this guy?

If not, posting somebody else's work as your own isn't very nice.

weiming

[apologies, accidental double post]

weiming

note: the following is not my writing, is based on the initial post by Bag

Transliteration to Roman characters:

eye sit here in teh class which triez
to lern me poetree
skeptical wuz eye, joo see.
"theze agramatic criez
kould never reallie say to me
teh thingz teh poet ment."

*gaspandchoke*! to mi surprizor,
az eye red teh book
a poem once mi fancie took:
it didnt seem to suxxor!

in class we did discussor, tho,
wich took what i had thot alrite
and made it reallie blo

like a steak, teh poemz ded;
it speekz to me no more.
explication splattered o'er
teh leetness in mi hed

this poem haz no imagerie,
mi riemagez r teh suxxor.
who reallie carez? just read it dood!
joo might liek it or summut...


Attempt at translation to English:

I sit here in the class which tries
to learn me poetry
skeptical was I, you see.
"These agrammatic [ungrammatical] cries
could never really say to me
the things the poet meant

*gaspandchoke*[onom.] to my surprise,
as I read the book
a poem once my fancy took:
it didn't seem to suck!

in class we did discuss, tho,
which took what I had thought alright
and made it really blow

like a steak, the poem's dead;
it speaks to me no more
explication [explanation] splattered o'er
the leetness[elite-ness; superior quality] in my head

this poem has no imagery,
my rhymes are the suck [my rhymes suck]
who really cares? just read it dude!
you might like it or something...

Being a language major, I find this riveting. There is at least one inconsistency in the original: the sound /I/ (as in "sit") is written as "1" in every instance but the word "i7" not because it is the initial (see "1n"), but apparently to avoid confusion with the number 17, which seems contrary, as (as far as I know) there are, necessarily, no numbers in 1337.

So 1337 has one phoneme with multiple orthography, which is either an apparent mistake, or very interesting. Any comments on this >Bag or anyone?

Bag

Here is it in proper English

I am seated in an institution of learning for the purpose of
divining that which I may of the art of verse.
As you may ascertain, I remained aloof saying
"These verses which do not adhere to propper gramatic form
Are incapable of communicating to me in a deep, meaningful way
The emotions of a writer with whom I have never parlayed."

But Lo! In a completely unexpected development,
Whilst meandering through the book as the result of an assignment
I espied a poem which I actually enjoyed reading,
For it did not share in the qualities of other poems!

However, we undertook a discussion of the poem in question in class:
This mere process transformed what I had liked about the poem
into something not deserving of my admiration anymore.

In the manner of a cooked piece of meat, the poem is devoid of life
No longer do I hear its plaintive message
The process of conventional analysis has hidden
The qualities which caused my enjoyment of the poem.

This poem contains no metaphoric comparisons or lyrical beauty
Its rhyme pattern unconventional and illogical.
Does this really matter? You should simply enjoy it for what it is!
You might actually find that you appreciate the message it conveys.

MikeC101

Can you clarify if you're claiming this work as your own?

To everyone else; Bag has copied the above from a website - it's been there for years and belongs to a computer science student in Wisconsin.

Posting plagiarised work and claiming it as your own is poor form in any forum, but it's an utter disgrace to do so in the creative writing forum, where people should surely have some modicum of respect for an authors right to be recognised as creator of his own work.

weiming

I checked out the link listed, and Bag has yet to confirm or deny anything. The board actually has explicit rules about plagiarism. That aside, copying something and pasting it here as one's own work is just...pointless and I can't imagine what kind someone would derive from it but then, people do strange things. At any rate, I certainly think the issue should be looked into, and action taken if necessary.

pickarooney

Bag may well be Dave in which case he's entitled to post his own, old poem.

MikeC101

It's not beyond the realms of possibility - but it seems more than a little unlikely, given that it's been posted on other forums before and has always given credit to David Murray as the author, and the webpage it was up on lists him as having written it while in college in Wisconsin, and completed the degree in 2007.

It's certainly possible that he found his way to boards.ie, and posted an old poem of his, in which case I would certainly withdraw any accusations of plagiarism but given Bag's posting history here, and his ignoring addressing this issue, it doesn't seem very likely they're the same person.