Jedi ejected from Tesco for wearing hood

ironingbored

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/jedi-ejected-from-tesco-for-wearing-hood-1890883.html

Just when you thought you'd heard it all along comes this.

Having said that Jediism is a whole lot more credible than either Christianity or Islam. And there's more evidence too!

sink

ironingbored wrote: »

And there's more evidence too!

Three 30 year old films as opposed to one 2000 year old book!

MrPudding

I like the Tesco spokesman's comments.

Does our Jedi friend have a point though? What are the requirements for having a religion and having the protection of anti discrimination law? Can tesco tell a follower of Jedi to remove his hood whilst allowing a muslin woman to walk past in a burka?

MrP

ChocolateSauce

If they allow headscarves, they should allow hoods.

krudler

Its funny how people are giving the standard "sure its only a made up religion" reply, its no less valid than any religion, plus you dont hear about Jedi in the movies setting people on fire and honour killing rape victims to save their souls, we could all learn a lot from the Jedi, be nice to each other, keep the peace, find inner happiness

philologos

ironingbored wrote: »

Having said that Jediism is a whole lot more credible than either Christianity or Islam. And there's more evidence too!

There's more evidence for a film which was intended to be fictional being true, than other people who are describing real life experiences?

I'm in agreement with ChocolateSauce though.

MrPudding

Jakkass wrote: »

There's more evidence for a film which was intended to be fictional being true, than other people who are describing real life experiences?

I'm in agreement with ChocolateSauce though.

You mean than what you believe are real life experiences?

MrP

CJTobin

krudler wrote: »

We could all learn a lot from the Jedi, be nice to each other, keep the peace, find inner happiness.

Couldn't agree more, Krudler.

Although I'm a Catholic, I don't believe that we necessarily need religion to follow the Jedi way of life.

Turtwig

Ok, maybe I'm wrong here but didn't the Sith originate from a schism in Jedi beliefs??

You know the one where the Jedi split between using the dark side of the force to defeat the evil forces within the republic i.e for the greater good and those who stuck to the wussy light sided ways.

Ban this religion immediately!!

drkpower

krudler wrote: »

Its funny how people are giving the standard "sure its only a made up religion" reply, its no less valid than any religion, plus you dont hear about Jedi in the movies setting people on fire and honour killing rape victims to save their souls, we could all learn a lot from the Jedi, be nice to each other, keep the peace, find inner happiness

Hold on a second now, that Darth Vader 'fella and the other lesser known Darth's did some bad sh!t. And they were Jedi, right? Or maybe they were ex-Jedi, im not totally sure.

But in any case, this is a fairly obvious attempt to distort, hide and whitewash the somewhat dubious history of the Jedi in order to make your faith more palatable to the masses. Very disappointing.

Turtwig

drkpower wrote: »

Hold on a second now, that Darth Vader 'fella and the other lesser known Darth's did some bad sh!t. And they were Jedi, right? Or maybe they were ex-Jedi, im not totally sure.

But in any case, this is a fairly obvious attempt to distort, hide and whitewash the somewhat dubious history of the Jedi in order to make your faith more palatable to the masses. Very disappointing.

Yeah didn't those Jedi folk wipe out civilisations (the 'good' ones were also responsible for many crimes too)

ChocolateSauce

No one ever claimed the force didn't have a dark side!

The Mad Hatter

One of the very (very, very) (very) few good things about the prequel trilogy was showing the Jedi leadership as "corrupt and arrogant," and distant from the population, which I quite liked.

branie

He should have used a jedi mind trick on security.

Rb

Motor bike drivers should form a religion so they don't have to take their helmets off when popping into the shops.

eamon234

Ejected he was because a loony he is!:D

ironingbored

I just hope the force was with him...to take him away in a white van!

ChocolateSauce

Saner than those women who think an invisible magician wants them to wear a headscarf.

Wreck

I asked this on the thread in AH, but got no response - why can't you wear a hood in Tesco's?

Zillah

Wreck wrote: »

I asked this on the thread in AH, but got no response - why can't you wear a hood in Tesco's?

Seriously? Because it hides your identity.

Tomk1

ChocolateSauce wrote: »

Saner than those women who think an invisible magician wants them to wear a headscarf.

Saner than those loving fathers/husbands that force 'their' women to wear 'Peig-scarfs'

deelite

Wreck wrote: »

I asked this on the thread in AH, but got no response - why can't you wear a hood in Tesco's?

I know they don't allow children to bring their schoolbags into the shop and also if the child is wearing a hoodie they are asked to pull it down from their head.

There's a gentleman who shops in Tesco (normally on Sundays - and I don't know what religion he is) but he's bare-footed. I've never seen him stopped going into the shop.

Galvasean

ChocolateSauce wrote: »

Saner than those women who think an invisible magician wants them to wear a headscarf.

Ah yes, but its for their own good you see. men (who obviously cant control themselves) are less likely to rape you if they cant see you.

MrPudding

Galvasean wrote: »

Ah yes, but its for their own good you see. men (who obviously cant control themselves) are less likely to rape you if they cant see you.

Oh is that the reason? I thought it was cos they looked like ninjas so no one would mess with them. I mean seriously, would you try to rape a ninja?

MrP

Iang87

Am i the only one who has copped onto the fact that this religion came from movies.

As in made up for entertainment purposes for the big screen,

cant imagine whats gonna happen to the world when the smurfs movie comes out next year

Galvasean

MrPudding wrote: »

Oh is that the reason? I thought it was cos they looked like ninjas so no one would mess with them. I mean seriously, would you try to rape a ninja?

MrP

Funny you should mention that. When 'the great Burka debate' was on Sky News a while back they were interviewing two ladies wearing the full black (eye slits only) gear and my sister walked into the room.
"Ninjas!!!! :eek:", she gasped!

5uspect

Iang87 wrote: »

Am i the only one who has copped onto the fact that this religion came from movies.

As in made up for entertainment purposes for the big screen,

cant imagine whats gonna happen to the world when the smurfs movie comes out next year

You don't understand. Lucas was inspired by the Force to create the Star Wars movies.

Just because some people base their faith in a dusty old book and some people base their faith on a 1970s classic movie doesn't mean one is inferior to the other.

ShooterSF

Iang87 wrote: »

Am i the only one who has copped onto the fact that this religion came from movies.

As in made up for entertainment purposes for the big screen,

cant imagine whats gonna happen to the world when the smurfs movie comes out next year

As opposed to this "first edition" bible discovered recently?

philologos

5uspect wrote: »

You don't understand. Lucas was inspired by the Force to create the Star Wars movies.

Just because some people base their faith in a dusty old book and some people base their faith on a 1970s classic movie doesn't mean one is inferior to the other.

It's largely down to intent, one (Star Wars movies) was produced as a result of a fictional plot and characters, the other (The Bible) was not. Hence why you will not (generally, I understand some people like messing about in bookshops) find the Bible in the fiction section of your local bookshop.

bnt

Blah - nothing to see here. In the movies, you see Jedi lowering their hoods when around polite company or going in to buildings. Like it or not, we live in a culture where obscuring your face from others is considered suspicious behaviour, whether it's by a hood, a ski mask, or a niqāb. :cool:

Antbert

branie wrote: »

He should have used a jedi mind trick on security.

Dammit! I was going to say that!

On a more serious note, eh... I didn't think women were allowed wear Burkas either? Or am I mistaken? I know in some places it's generally a rule that a hood isn't allowed because it obscures your face, Jedi, Burka or general scum. A headscarf doesn't obscure your face.

While I would dearly love to use this to highlight the rife hypocrisy in religious discrimination, I'm afraid it doesn't really work.

5uspect

Jakkass wrote: »

It's largely down to intent, one (Star Wars movies) was produced as a result of a fictional plot and characters, the other (The Bible) was not. Hence why you will not (generally, I understand some people like messing about in bookshops) find the Bible in the fiction section of your local bookshop.

Intent? So the Bible has no fictional characters?
And here I was thinking the Bible was divinely inspired.
Couldn't the Force/God inspire an Artist to produce a message through Art?

philologos

5uspect wrote: »

Intent? So the Bible has no fictional characters?
And here I was thinking the Bible was divinely inspired.
Couldn't the Force/God inspire an Artist to produce a message through Art?

Divinely inspired doesn't mean fiction. It's clear the Bible is meant to describe God's relationship with humanity. Whether or not you believe that it is real or not is up to you but it wasn't written with the intent of being fiction. Star Wars and it's scripts were.

Interestingly Christians have used themes from Star Wars to explain faith (clicky here for an example) and other things. No doubt truth can be discussed from themes in films, but ultimately one was written with the intention of being fictional (Star Wars) and one was not (The Bible).

ChocolateSauce

Jakkass wrote: »

It's largely down to intent, one (Star Wars movies) was produced as a result of a fictional plot and characters, the other (The Bible) was produced as a result of a series of fantasies/lies/delusions/misrepresentations/misinterpretations/propaganda efforts/etcetc.

Fixed that for you.

You didn't really expect us to agree, did you? ;)

Turtwig

Jakkass wrote: »

Divinely inspired doesn't mean fiction. It's clear the Bible is meant to describe God's relationship with humanity. Whether or not you believe that it is real or not is up to you but it wasn't written with the intent of being fiction. Star Wars and it's scripts were.

And you know the bible wasn't written written as being intentionally fictional because........

philologos

ChocolateSauce wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

You didn't really expect us to agree, did you? ;)

No, I didn't admittedly :pac:

Antbert

Malty_T wrote: »

And you know the bible wasn't written written as being intentionally fictional because........

I bet it was just someone having a laugh.

Zillah

Jakkass wrote: »

Divinely inspired doesn't mean fiction. It's clear the Bible is meant to describe God's relationship with humanity. Whether or not you believe that it is real or not is up to you but it wasn't written with the intent of being fiction. Star Wars and it's scripts were.

And yet we see that Jedism is the fastest growing religion in existence! Clever and mysterious are the ways of the force.



Hey jakkass, how does it feel to say something absolutely reasonable criticising a religion and have its defenders speciously retort endlessly? We are now reversing roles. We can argue for ten thousand pages if you like, but I will never ever concede any point you make against Jedism. I hope you'll find this as enjoyable as I.

Turtwig

Antbert wrote: »

I bet it was just someone having a laugh.

Would definitely qualify as 'The Worlds Biggest Joke That Went Badly Wrong' then:)

ShooterSF

Zillah wrote: »

Hey jakkass, how does it feel to say something absolutely reasonable criticising a religion and have its defenders speciously retort endlessly? We are now reversing roles. We can argue for ten thousand pages if you like, but I will never ever concede any point you make against Jedism. I hope you'll find this as enjoyable as I.

Fantastic

ShooterSF

FLETCHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OOps multiple tabs -ignore plz

orestes

I'm converting to jedism, just gotta and me a hood and I'm good to go

ElectroJazz

branie wrote: »

He should have used a jedi mind trick on security.

yeah like WTF??? He's not a real Jedi at all.. I'm going back to my old faith BarneytheDinosaurism.... although I ran into a similar problem when collecting my kid from school in a big purple dinosaur outfit...

studiorat

When did this become the Paganism forum?

5uspect

studiorat wrote: »

When did this become the Paganism forum?

Didn't you get the memo?

bus77

If I ever have to visit that kip Holyhead again I'll wear a hood.

MatthewVII

studiorat wrote:

When did this become the Paganism forum?

5uspect wrote: »

Didn't you get the memo emo?

fixed

5uspect

MatthewVII wrote: »

fixed

meme?

Flamed Diving

branie wrote: »

He should have used a jedi mind trick on security.

Just as effective as someone praying.

GLaDOS

Jakkass wrote: »

It's largely down to intent, one (Star Wars movies) was produced as a result of a fictional plot and characters, the other (The Bible) was not.

What about the whole Genesis thing?

Galvasean

ScienceNerd wrote: »

What about the whole Genesis thing?

I told you, Phil Collins' lyrics are a METAPHOR!