haggling with a dealership

ssmith6287 · 18-09-2009 1:03pm #1

just looked at a dealerships website where im lookin to buy a car. Noticed they have a no haggle policy. the car is 3k but i was thinkin more like 2.5k, dya think theyd go for it or wud they be serious about the haggle thing

Rylan · 18-09-2009 1:06pm

Have you details of the car. Make/model/year/milleage. Or a link to the advert. Its is unusual for a dealer to have a no haggle policy unless they have all their cars priced as straight deals with no trade ins. Its not Al Hayes you are looking by any chance?

OldmanMondeo · 18-09-2009 1:07pm

If you believe the car is only worth 2500, then walk in with the cash, wave 2k of it under the nose of the sales guy and maybe they will bite. Always start under what you hope to get the car for and work up, slowly.

Drummerboy08 · 18-09-2009 1:18pm

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

If you believe the car is only worth 2500, then walk in with the cash, wave 2k of it under the nose of the sales guy and maybe they will bite. Always start under what you hope to get the car for and work up, slowly.

No offence, but thats the bullsh*t that salemen hate. The salesman is not a dog - he does not need money waved under his nose to get the ball rolling.

I dont know if I speak for any of the lads in the trade here, but I have a lot more respect for a customer who comes in an says "I have 10k to spend, help me spend it", as opposed to "I'll offer you 3k less than the asking price. I know the car will be there for the next 10 years, so why not take the loss now instead"

Before anyone starts attacking me, no, I'm not out for the quick money. I still work with the customers who make stupid offers because they think they know what is going on in the Motor industry, but I will have more respect for the customer who respects me.

/Rant.

OP, Its no harm to make an offer, but depending on the car, a discount may or may not be warranted. Can you link us to it? If its a very well priced car, I dont think he'll accept it, but if its overpriced, maybe he will.

At the end of the day, all you can do is try.

OldmanMondeo · 18-09-2009 1:29pm

DB, Sorry if I offended. I didn't actually mean to wave the money under his nose, but to let the sales guy now you are a cash buyer, with cash on you now to pay for the car, subject of course to usual checks , cartell etc. Of course asking for 3k less than the asking price is a p-take, but 500 wuid less IMO is not a p-take and I would consider a decent offer. As I am sure you know most cars are priced with mark-up and discount in mind.

Having a bad day wording things...

Drummerboy08 · 18-09-2009 1:33pm

None taken! The attitude of certain types of customers really annoys me some times though.

An offer of €500 less might be accepted - depending on the car and how well its priced. It may be a car that is being advertised at 5k else where, but is being advertised here for 3k because they need the space etc.

Or it may be a car worth 2k, in which case an offer would be worth a punt.

It all depends on what the car is really.

mickdw · 18-09-2009 1:34pm

No haggle policy, ya right. That might have fooled a few people in the good times and might work on stuff thats easily sold but thats just daft

Drummerboy08 · 18-09-2009 1:42pm

mickdw wrote: »

No haggle policy, ya right. That might have fooled a few people in the good times and might work on stuff thats easily sold but thats just daft

Im not sure if its a bad idea tbh. It would save the customer and salesman alot of time and effort when it comes to haggling. The price should be the price IMO. For example, we've retailed a few cars at say 2k less (call the price 10k) than the cheapest comparible car on carzone. You get plenty of responses, but most of them are along the lines of "Sure you'd take 9.5k, wont ya" Eh, nope. The price is the price. If the customer does his research, they'll see that they wont get a similar car at a cheaper than advertised price.

As long as the car is priced right however.

Anan1 · 18-09-2009 1:44pm

mickdw wrote: »

No haggle policy, ya right. That might have fooled a few people in the good times and might work on stuff thats easily sold but thats just daft

Not necessarily, it all depends on how competitive the asking price is to begin with.

mickdw · 18-09-2009 1:48pm

fair enough if the price is obviously good compared to everyone else but I wouldnt be convinced and is a salesman really going to turn away a sale over maybe €100 due to no haggle policy?

Anan1 · 18-09-2009 1:49pm

mickdw wrote: »

fair enough if the price is obviously good compared to everyone else but I wouldnt be convinced and is a salesman really going to turn away a sale over maybe €100 due to no haggle policy?

Like I said, it all depends on how the car is priced.

cadaliac · 18-09-2009 2:07pm

The customer will still believe that there is room for movement on the price. Just advertising "no haggle price" isn't enough.
That just p1sses the customer off. Whether or not the price is cut to the last already is irrelevant to the customer, if he/she is not informed that the price is cut down, and hence no haggle. It has to be explained
Then it might work.

Drummerboy08 · 18-09-2009 2:10pm

cadaliac wrote: »

The customer will still believe that there is room for movement on the price. Just advertising "no haggle price" isn't enough.
That just p1sses the customer off. Whether or not the price is cut to the last already is irrelevant to the customer, if he/she is not informed that the price is cut down, and hence no haggle. It has to be explained
Then it might work.

See, thats what I'd be worried about. The typical Irish mentality is to take the advertised price, and slash it by 2k.

There is no kind of realisation that the car they are looking at is significantly cheaper than any other similar model aronud, thus they wont get any discount of it.

cadaliac · 18-09-2009 2:14pm

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

See, thats what I'd be worried about. The typical Irish mentality is to take the advertised price, and slash it by 2k.

There is no kind of realisation that the car they are looking at is significantly cheaper than any other similar model aronud, thus they wont get any discount of it.

Agreed, I am saying the same thing, its a mentality. Unfortunately, 90% of Irish people will naturally think like this. The other 9% understand what happens in the trade, because they more than likely work in some shape or form in the trade.
And there is always 1.
Yes 1% are just different. No matter what you do, it will be wrong. :pac:

Rylan · 18-09-2009 2:43pm

Alot of dealers advertise a car for lets say €10950 and will take the value of a trade in off this price. This can be to allow for the overheads that go allong with taking in a trade in - servicing, warranty, valeting, time sitting on car lot ect. If you don't have a trade in they will often discount this price as there are no overheads.

When a car is 2-3-4,000 a dealer sometimes doesn't expect a trade in and therefore will give their best straight price with no haggle.

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