Our kids are fatties

BraziliaNZ

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/children-among-worlds-fattest-but-healthy-diet-is-too-expensive-1890222.html

I think this is BS - "For families on social welfare in Ireland, choosing a healthy diet of fruit, vegetables, meat and fish can swallow up most of their benefit payments, a major international conference on childhood obesity has heard".

You can buy enough fresh/frozen veg/meat for a week for 4 people for 50 euros probably. Have you noticed more fat kids? I can't say i have really.

Edit: 20 euros was way off

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/children-among-worlds-fattest-but-healthy-diet-is-too-expensive-1890222.html

I think this is BS - "For families on social welfare in Ireland, choosing a healthy diet of fruit, vegetables, meat and fish can swallow up most of their benefit payments, a major international conference on childhood obesity has heard".

You can buy enough fresh/frozen veg/meat for a week for 4 people for 20 euros probably. Have you noticed more fat kids? I can't say i have really.

You know more than a "major international conference"...? Ok...

Breakdown, please, of what the 20€ is buying (other thank booze and ciggies)

Dragan

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/children-among-worlds-fattest-but-healthy-diet-is-too-expensive-1890222.html

I think this is BS - "For families on social welfare in Ireland, choosing a healthy diet of fruit, vegetables, meat and fish can swallow up most of their benefit payments, a major international conference on childhood obesity has heard".

You can buy enough fresh/frozen veg/meat for a week for 4 people for 20 euros probably. Have you noticed more fat kids? I can't say i have really.

Not a ****ing chance...and stop crippling the decent argument with that rubbish before this thread even gets started.

It is undoubtedly a LOT cheaper to eat a healthy diet than a bad one....but that 20euro statement is ****ing ludicrous.

When is the last time you bought your own food?

Riamfada

Have you seen McDonalds in Kylemore on a Sunday morning. You cannot move because of the wall of social depdent flab. And at almost 10 euro a pop you telling me your average "MA" cant cook for 4-5 people a Sunday meal for less than 45 quid.

Fat people are great crack.

ejmaztec

A lot of them lose weight later on when they start buying drugs instead of food.

Davei141

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

You know more than a "major international conference"...? Ok...

Breakdown, please, of what the 20€ is buying (other thank booze and ciggies)

1kg of porridge, bag of spuds, 2 pounds of mince, onions, tomatoes, carrots, apples, pears, eggs, frozen peas. You can get the above for under 20 euro.

convert

Fresh fruit and veg is more expensive than the frozen equivalent.

There was a programme on TV last night focusing on a mother and daughter who were overweight/obese. They were given a new diet of fruit&veg to follow and after a week the mother was complaining that she had to spend so much time shopping for food and carrying it home and that all she did in the house was wash saucepans because they had to cook instead of getting take outs...

Davei141

convert wrote: »

Fresh fruit and veg is more expensive than the frozen equivalent.

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Fresh veg is expensive but fresh fruit? No way.

Dragan

Davei141 wrote: »

1kg of porridge, bag of spuds, 2 pounds of mince, onions, tomatoes, carrots, apples, pears, eggs, frozen peas. You can get the above for under 20 euro.

2 pounds of mince would not feed 4 people for a week.

EL_Loco

convert wrote: »

Fresh fruit and veg is more expensive than the frozen equivalent.

There was a programme on TV last night focusing on a mother and daughter who were overweight/obese. They were given a new diet of fruit&veg to follow and after a week the mother was complaining that she had to spend so much time shopping for food and carrying it home and that all she did in the house was wash saucepans because they had to cook instead of getting take outs...

yep, "you are what you eat" but the previous week the woman who was on it said she was saving money on the healthier diet. Maybe it was down to the profile of the foods she was buying?

anyways, your wan last night was a whingin' boot. I think she cheered up towards the end though.

murf313

at the end of the day they are are just being lazy feckers.....
its alot easier to go and buy chips/takeaways than it is to actually prepare a healthy meal!
the only reason they are fat c*nts is because they are LAZY

Pace2008

There was a programme on TV last night focusing on a mother and daughter who were overweight/obese. They were given a new diet of fruit&veg to follow and after a week the mother was complaining that she had to spend so much time shopping for food and carrying it home and that all she did in the house was wash saucepans because they had to cook instead of getting take outs...

yep, "you are what you eat" but the previous week the woman who was on it said she was saving money on the healthier diet. Maybe it was down to the profile of the foods she was buying?

anyways, your wan last night was a whingin' boot. I think she cheered up towards the end though.

Gillian McKeith is a money-grabbing fraud and you'd be doing the world a service if you stopped boosting her ratings.

Davei141

Dragan wrote: »

2 pounds of mince would not feed 4 people for a week.

Well it looks like im going to have to pick up 5 chops for a fiver or some turkey steaks for 4 euro to go with it. I don't agree with the 20euro remark, but make it 30 throw in 10 fillets and you can easily feed 4 for a week.

Davei141

Davei141 wrote: »

1kg of porridge, bag of spuds, 2 pounds of mince, onions, tomatoes, carrots, apples, pears, eggs, frozen peas. You can get the above for under 20 euro.

Mince is the worst meat you can eat ffs.

Eat that 7 days a week and you will be dead before the Mcdonalds fatty

murf313

murf313 wrote: »

at the end of the day they are are just being lazy feckers.....
its alot easier to go and buy chips/takeaways than it is to actually prepare a healthy meal!
the only reason they are fat c*nts is because they are LAZY

lazy fat c*nts

Dragan

Davei141 wrote: »

Well it looks like im going to have to pick up 5 chops for a fiver or some turkey steaks for 4 euro to go with it.

Seriously, Dunnes and ****ing Tesco are so **** for meat it's not even funny. You know the score man, get in down the local butchers....with that wizened old man in behind the counter.

Cheap prices, and build the rapport and you start getting to local discount. :pac:

But, seriously, 5 chops for a fiver. Would feed four people. For one night. By seven nights is 35 quid.

I am a firm believer that eating healthy is both ( obviously ) the better way to go, and cheaper, than eating ****.

But, a sense of realism needs to be embraced early in this thread I think.

Wazdakka

You can use all the excuses in the book, but plain and simple..

1) Eat Less..
2) Exercise More..
3) Not be fat..
4)...
5) Profit..

Put down the fcuking fork, go for a walk and loose some weight you fat bastard children.

EL_Loco

Pace2008 wrote: »

Gillian McKeith is a money-grabbing fraud and you'd be doing the world a service if you stopped boosting her ratings.

I'm not a fan of hers. Should I not have mentioned it by name? Just pointing out that 1 person stated she was saving money, the person last night said it was more expensive for the healthier foods. But if she who can not be named gets your heckles up I apologise.

Davei141

rarnes1 wrote: »

Mince is the worst meat you can eat ffs.

Eat that 7 days a week and you will be dead before the Mcdonalds fatty

Sure.

Dragan wrote: »

Seriously, Dunnes and ****ing Tesco are so **** for meat it's not even funny. You know the score man, get in down the local butchers....with that wizened old man in behind the counter.

Cheap prices, and build the rapport and you start getting to local discount. :pac:

But, seriously, 5 chops for a fiver. Would feed four people. For one night. By seven nights is 35 quid.

I am a firm believer that eating healthy is both ( obviously ) the better way to go, and cheaper, than eating ****.

But, a sense of realism needs to be embraced early in this thread I think.

Read my edit i disagree with the guys 20 euro claim, i get all my chicken from the butchers, the supermakets have cheap meats on sale and stuff, its not the best but it can do for a change. Meats are expensive for people that want a lot of protein talking 200g but the majority of people will not be eating that amount so they can fill up the small quota with milk, eggs, cottage cheese, tuna etc. and most junk food is carbs they can get that in porridge bulk or spuds, both very cheap

Sleipnir

Wazdakka wrote: »

You can use all the excuses in the book, but plain and simple..

1) Eat Less..
2) Exercise More..
3) Not be fat..
4)...
5) Profit..

Put down the fcuking fork, go for a walk and loose some weight you fat bastard children.

It's not the kids' fault. After all, the plate is put in front of them by the parents.
The parents of fat kids are nearly always fat slobs.

ttm

Lazyness seems to be at the root of it http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2055685864

BraziliaNZ

Seriously, Dunnes and ****ing Tesco are so **** for meat it's not even funny. You know the score man, get in down the local butchers....with that wizened old man in behind the counter.

Cheap prices, and build the rapport and you start getting to local discount.

But, seriously, 5 chops for a fiver. Would feed four people. For one night. By seven nights is 35 quid.

I am a firm believer that eating healthy is both ( obviously ) the better way to go, and cheaper, than eating ****.

But, a sense of realism needs to be embraced early in this thread I think.

You've got a lot of anger built up or something. Anyway yes on second thoughts 20 quid was a huge understatement, but for about 6 euro you could feed a family of 4 a healthy dinner with meat and 2 veg no bother.

eirmail

If you are unemployed and live in dublin there is no reason why you couldn't go to moore St , one day a week . Stuff there is great value . Even if you couldn't afford the bus and it took you an hour to walk there and an hour back, what harm.

mikom

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

You can buy enough fresh/frozen veg/meat for a week for 4 people for 20 euros probably.

probably
probably


Probably Wrong.
Try it and you will end up looking like Gillian McKeith within a year.

Pace2008

EL_Loco wrote: »

I'm not a fan of hers. Should I not have mentioned it by name? Just pointing out that 1 person stated she was saving money, the person last night said it was more expensive for the healthier foods. But if she who can not be named gets your heckles up I apologise.

I wasn't having a go at you, I just thought it'd be worth mentioning in a health-related thread considering so many people are eating blue algae and having tubes shoved up their arses in an attempt to get healthy.

rarnes1

rarnes1 wrote: »

Mince is the worst meat you can eat ffs.

Eat that 7 days a week and you will be dead before the Mcdonalds fatty

Thats complete bull, Lean mince is quite healthy. I would only eat it two days a week though or I would get tired of it.

Dragan wrote: »

Seriously, Dunnes and ****ing Tesco are so **** for meat it's not even funny..

I don't know about Tesco as I don't shop there but I never had a problem with Dunnes meat I wouldnt buy there really cheap meat though so maybe this is what your talking about. Also Super value has very good meat imo. In general there is very little if any difference between them and a butchers.

EL_Loco

hey Pace, no worries.

anyone got any stats on food prices? What about alot of these local weekend markets etc? any value there?

It would be interesting to see a breakdown of a healthy shopping bill and an unhealthy one, see if it pans out.

edit: website is blocked at work incase it's there in black and white already.

arse..biscuits

rarnes1 wrote: »

Mince is the worst meat you can eat ffs.

Mince is not a meat

BraziliaNZ

check out the fruit/veg shops on Mary's Abbey in town, just after caple st. You could get enough veg there for 10 euros to last you a long long time.

Pace2008

Noemi Kind Cuttlefish wrote: »

Thats complete bull, Lean mince is quite healthy. I would only eat it two days a week though or I would get tired of it.

Lean mince is a champion. You can boil it up and drain the fat for one of the cheapest sources of easily absorbed protein.

swingking

best type of mince to buy is the extra lean mince something like 98% fat free. It's a known fact however that extra lean mince is so much more expensive that normal mince. Something like twice the price; which is just ridiculous

ijosicle

This article is BS, and is just justifying laziness. Sure if you insist on meat and two veg every day it will work out more than nuggets and chips, but it is possible to feed your family a healthy diet without breaking the bank if you vary what you make. I know it's easy to get into the habit of feeding processed food to your kids; I was brought up on it, which is maybe why I refuse to give that cr*p to my kids now.

There are so many good things you can make cheaply and you don't have to have meat and two veg every day; homemade chicken in breadcrumbs; Quick, cheap, tasty and two chicken breasts will feed four. Pasta with bacon bits and tinned tomatoes. Cheaper than D*lmio c**p. Much nicer. Bangers and mash with onion gravy. Stir fry with noodles and veg. It's not super-low fat stuff (and it doesn't need to be for growing kids), but it's good, tasty, quick to prepare, kids love it, and it's way healthier than nuggets and chips.

I hate the whinging tone of this article and the lack of honest facts. You know the study they quote is just some BS questionnaire cooked up by a journo looking for a good headline.

Last Angry Man

I think that arguement of good food being too expensive is rubbish. It takes time but cooking from scratch using fresh meat and veg is way cheaper than buying the same food pre-packaged and pre-prepared. Just takes more time and planning. It;s the crap that comes in jars that is both expensive and often bad for you.

Cian92

ijosicle wrote: »

two chicken breasts will feed four.

Are you crazy? Surely everyone will have one chicken breast?

phasers

Who exactly wants to eat chicken and veg every day of the week?

Swap half the chicken fillets for some pasta and seasonings, maybe some rice. Sure just buy a couple of jars of uncle Ben's or something ffs

Also a stir fry can be a very cheap, tasty and substantial meal.

Lazy fat fcuks tbh

ijosicle wrote: »

two chicken breasts will feed four..

wtf? No they wouldn't.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

It's quite obvious that most people in this thread are still suckling from their mothers breast...

4 people fed for a week (7 days) for 20 euro? It's very possible if they only eat aldi bread and beans 3 times a day for the week.

As for getting fresh veg, fruit and meat, to feed 4 people for a week... it's laughable.

50 euro is more feasible. You still won't get the best meat for that either.

Another point. At times like these take aways do a lot better because people can buy a dinner from a take away for less than in a supermarket. It also cuts out the preperation too.

Eccles

Oh man this thread is the official Celtic Tiger in memoriam/RIP....arguing about how much a family can survive on to eat...
By and large healthy food is a LOT dearer than cr8p...fresh fruit ,meat even bread are all dear nowadays ...the guy who said you could buy the quoted list of items for 20 euro was WAY off....Sure you could buy a sack of rice or porridge flakes and eat that all week but for a normal balanced healthy diet you ARE going to need more money or serious inventiveness...
However there is no doubt that the main cause of obesity is laziness and lack of self discipline ...sure people with slight justification may use defences like cost,stress,work,commuting,lifestyle etc ....all little consolation when chronic ill health and the grim reaper come a knockin'...

bleg

convert wrote: »

Fresh fruit and veg is more expensive than the frozen equivalent.

There was a programme on TV last night focusing on a mother and daughter who were overweight/obese. They were given a new diet of fruit&veg to follow and after a week the mother was complaining that she had to spend so much time shopping for food and carrying it home and that all she did in the house was wash saucepans because they had to cook instead of getting take outs...

You're kidding me. That's an outrage!

Catari Jaguar

I disagree with the article stating that it's a lack of money...

I teach inner city kids. It's a disadvantaged status school so the children get lunches at school. Healthy stuff, sandwiches, fruits, milk &water and snacks like frubes or cheese dippers.

Some of the wee Dublin kids are sooooo scrawny and malnourished. Coming in with no breakfast and eating 3 or 4 sandwiches for lunch. And thats just the infants! I i haven't seen too many over weight kids in teh boys school, lots of over weight teenage girls around though.

I have to say it's neglect in a lot of the cases, laziness in others and sheer miseducation for the other part. There are young mothers that send the kids in with the rolls from spar and centra and they cost a lot more than a loaf of bread and some cheese and ham. Other things you get in are those cereal bars from kelloggs, crisps etc. TV tells you this stuff is healthy and they belive it.

After school they might hand the kid a happy meal at the gates. And push them home in a buggy because it's faster.

The worst diets by far are the kids from teh Phillipines which blows my mind because so many of them have mothers that work as nurses... They come in with biscuits, crackers, ice cream wafers... all sorts of crap

whatdoicare

That healthy food being too dear is aload of crap- I get a weeks shopping in Aldi for 4 people including frozen veg, fruit, 3 kinds of frozen fish, family size turkey mince, family size chicken, eggs, fresh fruit and veg plus 4 juices, two fruit and fibre, bread, a treat for Sunday and pasta/rice for around the 45 - 50 euro mark.

Mac donalds for four people for a week costs what? A meal is like 3.50 each? times four is 14 euro? times seven is 98 euro? Thats for only one meal in a day!

Piste

Where are these cheap takeaways that people are going on about? If my sister, my mum and I get a takeaway it's usually around €30. Couldn't imagine doing that every night! (but oh so delicious...)