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Baptism in the Holy Spirit

  • 17-09-2009 10:26pm
    #1
    TravelJunkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭


    Do Catholics believe in this?

    or Baptism of fire.

    thanks


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  • #2
    Stephentlig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭Stephentlig


    Baptism
    1213 Holy Baptism is the basis of the whole Christian life, the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua),4 and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of God; we become members of Christ, are incorporated into the Church and made sharers in her mission: "Baptism is the sacrament of regeneration through water in the word."5
    http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c1a1.htm#1272

    Confirmation
    1285 Baptism, the Eucharist, and the sacrament of Confirmation together constitute the "sacraments of Christian initiation," whose unity must be safeguarded. It must be explained to the faithful that the reception of the sacrament of Confirmation is necessary for the completion of baptismal grace.89 For "by the sacrament of Confirmation, [the baptized] are more perfectly bound to the Church and are enriched with a special strength of the Holy Spirit. Hence they are, as true witnesses of Christ, more strictly obliged to spread and defend the faith by word and deed."90

    In Brief
    1315 "Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John, who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit; for it had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit" (Acts 8:14-17).

    http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c1a2.htm#1298

    The above is taken from the cathechism of the Catholic church.

    I hope it is of help.
    God bless and take care
    Stephen.


  • #3
    postcynical
    Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭postcynical


    TravelJunkie wrote: »
    Do Catholics believe in this?

    or Baptism of fire.

    thanks

    I'm not sure what we teach (Stephentlig has given relevant catechism above) but I'd say yes, certainly I believe in the concept. What do you yourself mean by this? Could you clarify it a little bit?

    Is it a trial of fortitude? That faith in Christ is only mature if it is severely tested? I would say yes.

    Does baptism by water and by oil (confirmation) automatically entail baptism of the spirit - I'm not too sure.


  • #4
    TravelJunkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭TravelJunkie


    Baptism of the spirit, as I understand it, comes after baptism of water. For example,

    Someone accepts Jesus as Lord and Saviour, the next step is baptism in water as a symbol of renewed life, and then, that person must ask for baptism in holy spirit, this brings God's zeal for lack of a better term.

    I do think the oil symbolises this at the christening, but I'm talking about later on in life.

    I don't believe what the pentecostals do however, that this is only evident if you can speak in tongues.


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