Kofi and The Miz

DM_7

Right, we are always talking about the guys that could shine and I think these two could be huge for RAW in the next year.

The match they had at Breaking Point was very good. These two were sent out together and put on a very good wrestling match.

Kofi in the ring is a very good high flyer. He has had very good matches with Edge & Jericho, Shone in the recent fatal four way on Raw and now the breaking point match.

The Miz has shown some he has very good promo skills. His move to RAW was a great chance to increase his profile after doing so well on ECW. The calling out Cena worked very well. Now we are also seeing his wrestling ability.

I hope their feud over the US title runs and runs as the breaking point match showed these two could elevate each other. I think if they are allowed to have a strong feud they could become big stars in the next year.

I wanted to praise both guys while asking do you enjoy watching these two Perform and do you think they could be big stars in the next year?

Bubs101

I heart the Miz and always have. He's ****ing class.

Only thing I particularly like about Kofi is his hilariously racist name Jamaican me crazy

DM_7

Bubs101 wrote: »

I heart the Miz and always have. He's ****ing class.

Only thing I particularly like about Kofi is his hilariously racist name Jamaican me crazy

I knew you Heart the Miz. He really is class.

Your not impressed with Kofi's wrestling?

Bounty Hunter

Kofi has great ability imo and ive enjoyed many of his matches, the only problem is I dont think the writers have a clue what to do with him. Perhaps its due to his lack of mic skills but i dont remember him being given any real storylines and even with regards the matches I said I enjoyed I only got into them half way true because of the wrestling, none of them seem to have been given any sort of build. His entire US title run has been Meh for me yet he can be awesome in the ring.

what can i say about the Miz though except, He is The Miz and he is awesome! im a miz convert and im proud to admit it, although tbh i dont think it took me that long to convert to the pro-miz camp even if i was nowhere near Bubs level in that regard. He is great on the mic and has the potential to be a top heel (so many wont believe this), although if im honest instead i see him being a long term mid card heel (prove me wrong Miz).

DM_7

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Kofi has great ability imo and ive enjoyed many of his matches, the only problem is I dont think the writers have a clue what to do with him. Perhaps its due to his lack of mic skills but i dont remember him being given any real storylines and even with regards the matches I said I enjoyed I only got into them half way true because of the wrestling, none of them seem to have been given any sort of build. His entire US title run has been Meh for me yet he can be awesome in the ring.

Kofi's lack of Mic time is an issue. I think that may be down to him being from Ghana. He is lumbered with a fake accent. Its tough to bring emotion to your voice in a fake accent so thats the only reason I can think of for no Kofi mic time.

But his matches are classy.

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

what can i say about the Miz though except, He is The Miz and he is awesome! im a miz convert and im proud to admit it, although tbh i dont think it took me that long to convert to the pro-miz camp even if i was nowhere near Bubs level in that regard. He is great on the mic and has the potential to be a top heel (so many wont believe this), although if im honest instead i see him being a long term mid card heel (prove me wrong Miz).

I though the same up untill the Breaking point match.

I think the fact these guys went out on a PPV which is a pressure situation and competed in a great match show they have talent. Consider legacy's match with HHH and HBK. They had two experienced guys to compete with and the match still looked awkward at times. Kofi and the miz just flowed but they had no experienced guys to help them out during the match.

Bounty Hunter

well as I said I do think that The Miz has the potential to be a top heel but i guess im always skeptical and therefore still dont think he will make it to those heights. The PPV match while being very good isnt enough to make me sit up and say the Miz will be main eventing for years, but he does have the potential imo to reach that level and I hope he realises it.

sky88

i like kofi good in the ring but he does need mic time i dont know what it is about the miz even though hes good in ring and on the mic theres just something i dont like about the guy

DM_7

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

well as I said I do think that The Miz has the potential to be a top heel but i guess im always skeptical and therefore still dont think he will make it to those heights. The PPV match while being very good isnt enough to make me sit up and say the Miz will be main eventing for years, but he does have the potential imo to reach that level and I hope he realises it.

To be honest I don't expect either guy to main event. It would be cool if they did eventually but its a tough place to get too.

What I really hope for is that the Match the guys put on shows WWE that there is a place on RAW for a US title scene that can feature some good wrestling and some drama. Almost like the way WCW used the cruiserweights as a way of giving some good wrestling on each show.

I think Kofi (As a super high flyer) and Miz (As a super promo man) could lead that type of development and help draw people to watching some exciting Mid card action on RAW.

Bounty Hunter

DM-ICE wrote: »

To be honest I don't expect either guy to main event. It would be cool if they did eventually but its a tough place to get too.

What I really hope for is that the Match the guys put on shows WWE that there is a place on RAW for a US title scene that can feature some good wrestling and some drama. Almost like the way WCW used the cruiserweights as a way of giving some good wrestling on each show.

I think Kofi (As a super high flyer) and Miz (As a super promo man) could lead that type of development and help draw people to watching some exciting Mid card action on RAW.

the above pretty much echoes my own thoughts tbh hense me suggesting I could see the Miz being a long term mid card heel but that the WWE writers need to do better with the US title atm as like i said ive found Kofi's run as champ so far to be for lack of a better word Meh and that i really dont care about his title matches until they are underway and one of his impressive moves catches my imagination.

They need to start treating the US title on Raw like they do the IC title over on SD

DM_7

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

the above pretty much echoes my own thoughts tbh hense me suggesting I could see the Miz being a long term mid card heel but that the WWE writers need to do better with the US title atm as like i said ive found Kofi's run as champ so far to be for lack of a better word Meh and that i really dont care about his title matches until they are underway and one of his impressive moves catches my imagination.

They need to start treating the US title on Raw like they do the IC title over on SD

I meant to say earlier that before the PPV I thought miz could only be a mid card talent, but the PPV made me think he could achive more. I do agree with you and expect him to be around the mid card level for a while but hoping for bigger things.

D.Q

you know what I think really helps The Miz, his f.uckin awesome entrance song. Its absolutely perfect.

Its weird, I think Jo Mo would be taken alot more seriously if he had better music, his music is awful.

geeky

I think it's undisputed that Kofi is great to watch in the ring - really energetic, athletic and creative. Unfortunately, due to a mix of factors (mentioned above) he's unlikely to get much by way of a serious storyline. Without the crowd becoming really emotionally invested in him, I can't see him rising much higher than he is right now. He might shift merchandise (don't have figures) and be someone the crowd like to see coming out (until he gets injured) but it's difficult to see him above the good-tag-team level or where he is now.

Miz, on the other hand, is closer to the total package. But he needs to either stay working with Kofi or get away entirely from the snakepit that is RAW. His burial at the hands of Cena could have done irreparable damage.

flahavaj

I see Kofi as a guy whos a phenomenal athelete and an exciting worker to watch wrestle, but a guy that WWE have never given me even one good reason to get behind in anyway. I've only heard him speak on a handful of occasions FFS.

Miz is f*cking great though. He got more people cheering for Cena than just about anyone in the last few years, Edge, Orton, Jericho et al included, which is quite the feat.

Shaneomac

Kofi needs some kind of storyline rather than just meandering along as champion. His push is very similar to that of RVD in that regard.

Riddle101

I like them both, but being on Raw means that they're going to stay in the mid-cards for a long time. Raw's creative only care about the Main Eventers, and since Legacy, Cena, HHH, HBK and previously Batista are dominating the ME, a push for them both right now looks bleak. But hopefully that will change.

dsmythy

The fact that Kofi hasn't been in storylines and is rarely on the mic and STILL gets a reaction each time he appears shows he has some huge potential alone.

Brow

I think its an easy way out for the writers to be honest. Kofi is talented no question, he'll put on a decent match more times than most so why write for him? So long as he entertains with his ring work theyll be happy to let him stay mute.

From what ive seen recently (im sure theres excpetions) it's only when a wrestler usually is lacking in the ring they feel the need to let them have a storyline, get a rub somehow or talk in order to compensate e.g Santino.

I'd really like to see Kofi in the main event some day but rather at a slow build. The only drawback is with some of the intensity he brings I think he's been relativley lucky to stay injury free up to now.

Tricity Bendix

dsmythy wrote: »

The fact that Kofi hasn't been in storylines and is rarely on the mic and STILL gets a reaction each time he appears shows he has some huge potential alone.

R Truth is in a similar situation. In fact, I'd say that R Truth has more potential than either Miz or Kofi. He could quite easily become a merch machine.

DM_7

Its going to get lost in the hulk news but this thread seems like it means something again. Maybe I should of waited a few weeks to start it.

Anyway

It was great to see Miz trump Jo Mo at bragging rights with no cheap ending. I look forward to seeing what he does next on raw as he getrs better all the time.

Even better to see Kofi getting rid of his accent, doing promos and starting a feud with raw

Orton

. A feud like that could really make him TAKE OFF.

JP Liz

I predict Kofi/Orton feuding and also Miz/Swagger/Bourne feuding for the US title

DM_7

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11979_5661647,00.html

For two years the WWE has seen a laughing, smiling Jamaican in the form of Kofi Kingston. But now he has returned to his Ghanaian roots and his smile might begin to wane as he begins the tensest feud of his career with Randy Orton.
On Raw, Randy Orton blamed Kingston for his Iron Man Match defeat to John Cena at Bragging Rights. But the former United States Champion did what few people would dare to do and stood up to Orton.
In an amazing moment Kingston ruined Orton's brand new gift from Legacy - his very own NASCAR.
And just days after making his fearless statement, Kingston chatted to Sky Sports wrestling expert Richard Parr. The Raw superstar discussed his impending feud with the Legend Killer, why he has returned to his Ghanaian roots, his Wrestlemania debut and Jackie Chan!


Kofi, you certainly made an impact on Raw this past week by trashing Randy Orton's car. This is a side of you we hadn't seen before. Will we be seeing more of this in the future?
Kofi Kingston: I hope so. To be honest, it's one of those situations where you can only get pushed so far before you start pushing back. So I'm starting to push back and I know next week Randy will not be best pleased. So we'll see what happens.

By angering Randy Orton this will surely put you into a main event feud with the Legend Killer. Are you ready?
Kofi Kingston: I'm definitely ready, otherwise I wouldn't have crossed that line. I think everyone's goal in the WWE is to be at the top. My goal is to be the best. Randy has obviously established his name as the Legend Killer but he is becoming a Legend in the WWE. To be able to go in there with Randy will definitely be a great learning experience for me and I think there are going to be some great matches and great things to come from the two of us.

You only debuted in the WWE two years ago and following a long spell with the US Title and now an impending feud with Randy Orton, have you been surprised at how fast you have progressed?
Kofi Kingston: Yes and no. I'm always striving to be better. If you're not getting better, you're only getting worse. I always thought this would happen eventually. I didn't put a time frame on my progress. I'm a guy who always looks to the future, to try to get better, to get better with every match. I guess it was surprising at first but when you're given the ball you've got to run with it. I've always wanted to chase that Brass Ring and try to run with the ball.

You have some of the most innovative moves in the WWE at the moment. Where do your ideas come from?
Kofi Kingston: I get ideas from all over the place. Number one, I watch wrestling from all over the world. I watch a lot of wrestling from Japan and Mexican wrestling. They do a lot of unique things that we don't necessarily do in the Unites States. I'm also a big video gamer, I play a lot of video games. I played Tekken, guys like Eddy Gordo are very unique characters. When he was introduced into the Tekken series he was the guy everybody was talking about. People knew about Capoeira but they didn't really know what it was all about as far as moves and stuff. So I incorporate a little bit of that too. I tend to do a lot of things that are cool to me. Kung Fu movies - they do a lot of unique stuff. If I see something that looks cool there, I'll try and incorporate it. There was a move at Wresltemania where I jumped through the ladder that I got from Jackie Chan. I saw him do that in a fight scene. I have a lot of different influences and I pick and choose what works for me and try to make it my own.

Has the WWE ever stopped you from using a new move because it's not their style, you might hurt yourself or seriously injure your opponent?
Kofi Kingston: I have never been told that. Fortunately I get to just go out and do what I do. And when I come back (from the ring) if any one tells me not to do something then I ask for forgiveness afterwards. But I have never been told not to do a certain move. I'm actually praised for my moves.

You mentioned video games and you are the current Champion of the Superstar challenge on the Smackdown versus Raw game. Will you retain your title next year?
Kofi Kingston: I hope so. There are a lot of people gunning for me ever since I won. JTG's been talking a lot of trash even though he's yet to enter a THQ challenge tournament. Shad (Gaspard), Cody (Rhodes) wants pay back, Shelton (Benjamin) might even get involved in the tournament again. I think when you get to that number one spot people definitely have you on their target.

You've gone from being Jamaican to Ghanaian. Could you please clear up your background for us?
Kofi Kingston: I was actually born in Ghana, West Africa. As far as the whole Jamaican thing is actually concerned, growing up I actually loved everything about Jamaica. I loved the food, the culture, the laid-back attitude. When I came to the WWE initially I wanted to come out to something that attributed both my love for wrestling and the Jamaican heritage. I wanted to come out to something unique and something people had never seen before. But at a certain point it becomes about being real and true to yourself, as opposed to playing a character. You look at guys like Triple H. When he first started out he was Hunter Hearst Helmsley and before that he was Terra Ryzing - I don't know if a lot of people know that. Stone Cold Steve Austin was Stunning Steve Austin before he became Stone Cold. The Rock was Rocky Maivia before he became The Rock. Shawn Michaels was a Rocker before he became the Heartbreak Kid. I think in wrestling and the WWE you see a trend of guys who make transitions. And I think for me I'm in that transition stage into coming into my own.

If you weren't a WWE Superstar what would you be?
Kofi Kingston: I'd like to be involved in something to do with video games. Before I became a wrestler I was in the advertising field, so maybe a combination of advertising or marketing for video games. It's hard to imagine a life without wrestling at all. I'm not sure, something athletic perhaps. I'm a pretty athletic guy, so maybe something to do with football or track & field. I don't know. It could be anything!

The WWE returns to the UK in a few weeks time. How much are you looking forward to it?
Kofi Kingston: Man, I love, love, love wrestling in the UK. Every time we go we're only there for two weeks but the crowds are just so energetic. It's nothing that I have ever experienced. You guys aren't used to seeing us, so when you do you're very excited. It's just a really good vibe. When you walk out there and people are excited to see you, my energy feeds off the crowd and the crowd feeds off of me. It always is a great, great show. I'm definitely looking forward to the UK.

Talking of a great show, as you mentioned earlier you made your Wrestlemania debut this year in Houston, Texas in the Money in the Bank Ladder Match. How was that experience and were you nervous at all?
Kofi Kingston: It was amazing, it was a lifelong dream. As I told you people as wrestlers strive to be the best and Wrestlemania is the pinnacle of wrestling events. To be involved in that was just incredible. Checking off another thing on the list of things I wanted to do in my lifetime. As far as being nervous, I was a little bit nervous. But I usually am before every match until I step through the curtain and hear the crowd. And Wrestlemania, with over 70,000 people there, in Houston it was one of those things that when my music hit the crowd just went wild. I walked out and it looked like there were people were stacked up for miles and miles all the way up to the end of the stadium. It was incredible. I think I was more excited than nervous. It didn't really all hit me that I had been involved in Wrestlemania until it was all over, until I walked through the curtain and sat down. It was amazing. It all happened so fast.

If you could choose your opponent for Wrestlemania 26 next year in Phoenix, Arizona, who would it be against?
Kofi Kingston: As long as I am there then that will be cool. I really don't know. It could go many ways this year. Who knows? I'm starting to get involved with Randy right now. Who knows how long that'll go on for? But I would love to have a match with Randy at Wrestlemania. I grew up watching Shawn Michaels. For me to have a match with Shawn Michaels would be coming full circle for me. Money in the Bank again, I would love to go in there and beat seven other guys. I don't know, as long as I am there and doing something then that is cool with me.

G-Money

I heard the Miz getting cheers on Raw this week. The tide is turning.

I dislike his entrance music, his motto "I'm the miz and i'm awesome" and I also don't like his name, but he's definitely good and getting better. One to watch.

Rjd2

grandmaster wrote: »

I heard the Miz getting cheers on Raw this week. The tide is turning.

True.
Honestly while their is no rush to turn him I think he would make a great face as long as they did turn him into some dull humble face, just let him keep his swagger but trash talk heels instead.

grames_bond

grandmaster wrote: »

I dislike his entrance music, his motto "I'm the miz and i'm awesome" and I also don't like his name...

he's a heel, thats kind of the point!