Wierd Question

scubakid

I was thinking about this today because it looked like it was goin to happen. I asked my playing partners about it but they didn't know.

My Question:

What would happen if a bird or cat or dog or something picked up your ball out on the fairway and landed it in the hole, perhaps giving you an albatros on a par 5?

Surely it can't just go as is?

PhilipMarlowe

If the ball was at rest and was picked up and moved (and you are certain of this because you saw it happen) then you replace the ball (or substitite another) where it had come to rest and play on without penalty.
If you hit your second to a par 5 over the crest of a hill and it ended up near the green... and a bird pick it up and dropped it into the hole... and the event was witnessed by a deaf mute and you didn't understand sign language... and and and...

Basically a ball at rest moved by an outside agency gets replaced...
A ball in motion moved by an outside agency is a 'rub of the green'.

scubakid

Thank you

Debate sorted

Dylan69

Not sure if i like the term "deaf mute" :mad: as the word "mute" can also refer to dumb in the dictionary .We all know that deaf people out there are quite intelligent!

Oliverdog

Dylan69 wrote: »

Not sure if i like the term "deaf mute" :mad: as the word "mute" can also refer to dumb in the dictionary .We all know that deaf people out there are quite intelligent!

And able people are sometimes quite stupid.
I would have thought this would go without saying in a discussion like this.

PhilipMarlowe

Just making the point that there can be scenarios where a ball gets moves and you may not ever know, not necessarily down to 'stupidity'.
If you know it was moved and you know from were it was moved, then replace and continue without penalty....
If you know it was moved (saw a dog maybe with a your ball in his mouth bringing it back to you from over the crest?) but not sure from where, then drop one in neither the most advantageous position nor the least advantageous position in the area that you think that the ball did come to rest... so maybe not in the hole, not on the green or not in the bunker but just off the green... I'm sure that this stuff sometimes happens but I can't remember an animal interfering with my balls ever.. and I think that's something I wouldn't forget
Had a guy pick up my opponents ball from just off the wrong fairway in Junior Cup one time alright... he got kinda annoyed but then he was 3 down playing the 15th at the time. Simply a matter of replacing the ball where it was and on we go again.

heavyballs

Licksy wrote: »

Basically a ball at rest moved by an outside agency gets replaced...
A ball in motion moved by an outside agency is a 'rub of the green'.

i'm not sure if it needs to be 'at rest', i remember watchin the us golf a cfew years ago.A golfer hit his drive into a blokes backpack as yer man walked down the cart path.They had to track this guy down and put the ball back where he 'caught it'.

FlutterinBantam

The ball would have been at rest, not the backpacker.

Similar to in the dog's mouth, the dog may be moving, but while the ball is clamped in his gnashers it it certainly not;)