ill on holidays from work you get those days back??

larchielads

my mate told me today if that you fell ill while on holidays from work you can get a cert from the doctor stating the days you were sick you would be entitled for those days off when you go back to work. never heard of it before anyone got any insight to this?????

Victor

I think it might be pushing things.

Think of all the 19 years old who spend a fortnight in Ibiza coming home with sick notes for 13 days of alcohol poisoning.

brendansmith

If you are sick while on holidays from work you are entitled to your own office and a raise on your return i heard.

That and 3 gold bars presented by Brian Cowen.

mikemac

Victor wrote: »

I think it might be pushing things.

Think of all the 19 years old who spend a fortnight in Ibiza coming home with sick notes for 13 days of alcohol poisoning.

You think? Why not just answer the question and don't mind your daft examples

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/employment-rights-and-conditions/leave-and-holidays/sick_leave

Sick leave and annual leave
If you are ill during your annual leave and have a medical certificate for the days you were ill, these sick days will not be counted as annual leave days. Instead, you can use these days as annual leave at a later date.

brendansmith

mikemac wrote: »

You think? Why not just answer the question and don't mind your daft examples

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larchielads wrote: »

my mate told me today if that you fell ill while on holidays from work you can get a cert from the doctor stating the days you were sick you would be entitled for those days off when you go back to work. never heard of it before anyone got any insight to this?????

My workplace has been doing this for years. Very few people abuse it.

lipo starter

larchielads wrote: »

my mate told me today if that you fell ill while on holidays from work you can get a cert from the doctor stating the days you were sick you would be entitled for those days off when you go back to work. never heard of it before anyone got any insight to this?????

yes, you are entitled to those days back, as long as you have a sick note to say what days you were sick

TheInquisitor

You can now claim sick days if your sick on holidays. Full article below

Workers who are ill during their holidays can now claim the time back from their employers following a landmark ruling by the European Court of Justice.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article6834745.ece

Sofiztikated

Let me get this right though, you'd rather be off and not get paid than be off and get paid?

Hell, if I'm off sick, I'll use a H day or a bank holiday for it, damned if I'm losing out money because my feeble body can't keep up.

thomond2006

Do a Ceann Comhairle and say you were forced to go to Cheltenham and stay in a 5 star hotel. :pac:

messrs

think it really depends on companys discression! i worked for company few years back and if you were sick on hols and came in with sick cert then yes, you did get those days back and you could re-use your hols - but as far as i know its up to each company if they want to agree with it.
know my current company defo wouldnt agree to it!

Ste.phen

messrs wrote: »

think it really depends on companys discression! i worked for company few years back and if you were sick on hols and came in with sick cert then yes, you did get those days back and you could re-use your hols - but as far as i know its up to each company if they want to agree with it.
know my current company defo wouldnt agree to it!

It's not discretion, it's the LAW:
(probably do need a doctor's note though)

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/employment-rights-and-conditions/leave-and-holidays/sick_leave

Sick leave and annual leave

If you are ill during your annual leave and have a medical certificate for the days you were ill, these sick days will not be counted as annual leave days. Instead, you can use these days as annual leave at a later date.

An employer cannot require you to take annual leave for a certified period of illness. However, illness during the leave year will reduce the total number of hours worked by you and can therefore affect your entitlement to annual leave. While you are on sick leave from work you do not accumulate annual leave entitlement.

Annual leave accumulated before start of sick leave: Many employers insist that you take your annual leave by a particular date, for example, the end of the calendar year. The European Court of Justice has ruled in case C-350/06 that a worker who is on sick leave at the end of the leave year should not lose the right to annual leave which was accumulated before the start of the sick leave. This judgement also applies to a worker who was on sick leave immediately before leaving the employment. This means that the worker would be entitled either to carry over, or receive payment for, annual leave which has been earned but not taken because the worker was on sick leave.

TheZohanS

Ste.phen wrote: »

It's not discretion, it's the LAW:
(probably do need a doctor's note though)

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/employment-rights-and-conditions/leave-and-holidays/sick_leave

Yes it's law but if you take the p1ss don't forget that the company you work for have to agree with the dates of the holidays that you put in for, it's give and take.

wilson10

I'm an employer and haven't come across this although I know of employees having been ill on holiday.

If it was put to me I would have to go along with it but it would be at a time that suited the workflow of the company and it would no doubt influence my opinion of that employee in a negative way.

Rabies

Threads like this pop up here and there and make me smile... that is why I like AH. It's full of silly people

Naos

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Let me get this right though, you'd rather be off and not get paid than be off and get paid?

Hell, if I'm off sick, I'll use a H day or a bank holiday for it, damned if I'm losing out money because my feeble body can't keep up.

Do you not get paid if you're on sick leave? I know I do.

Babooshka

Naos wrote: »

Do you not get paid if you're on sick leave? I know I do.

That is another kettle of fish. It IS company discretion as to whether they pay you sick days and up to how many, not all companies do. So if you were to get sick while taking holiday days that are paid for by your company, then even with the sick note they could withold your pay and tell you to claim it from the social welfare. Employment law and then unlegislated company policies can be a grey area if you don't know your company law and also your own company's policies. Nera are good source of info on it.

After hours is so the wrong place for This!

As answered before, it's the law. Generally it would be used by people who were unable to go on their holiday or whatever because they were sick or end up in hospital for the entire hol with swine flu! But like anything there will always be some who abuse the system.

Someone mentioned that your employer could make it difficult for you to take these holidays again and yes, they could, but you're still entitled to them within the year and if you leave the company before you are allowed to take them then they have to pay you for them.

Again, there will always be people who abuse the system!

Pyr0

wilson10 wrote: »

it would no doubt influence my opinion of that employee in a negative way.

Even if they were genuinely sick and not just taking the p!ss ?

Babooshka

I agree with you doodles. I would only tell my employer and ask them for the days if I was in bed for the whole of the holiday period and was very sick, you'd have to use a certain amount of cop on with it but like everything else there'll always be messers who pull the proverbial.

wilson10

Pyr0 wrote: »

Even if they were genuinely sick and not just taking the p!ss ?

If they had a sicknote I don't think they'd be taking the piss.

In the present economic climate I don't think I would take too kinkly to the attitude to work, although it would depend to an extent on the particular individual and circumstances.

If things get much worse we may all be taking permanent holidays.

5starpool

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Let me get this right though, you'd rather be off and not get paid than be off and get paid?

Hell, if I'm off sick, I'll use a H day or a bank holiday for it, damned if I'm losing out money because my feeble body can't keep up.

You don't get paid for sick days? That would suck balls big time. I presume you are not in a salaried role?

Then again, I've only been off sick once in the last nearly 3 years (jinx).

5starpool

5starpool wrote: »

You don't get paid for sick days? That would suck balls big time. I presume you are not in a salaried role?

Then again, I've only been off sick once in the last nearly 3 years (jinx).

You'd be amazed the amount of places don't pay sick pay at all. Or the amount of places that encourage you to actually take a holiday instead of a sick day!

Theta

Thats pretty terrible not being paid for sick days in all fairness (if its a salaried position). And being asked to use a holiday they can GTF.