Websites

scubakid

Just a quick question guys.

Can anyone give me a rough idea how much setting up a website would cost?

Including getting the address and someone to design it. Nothing fancy, just a standard website for a food company.

This might not be the best place to put this but I need to find out quick.

Thanks

Ed_

That would cost you in total about three fiddy

dr.bollocko

Moved from AH. Sorry if this is the wrong place.

davemac83

Scubakid,

I think there was a recent post on this, maybe only two weeks ago. I rang around cork getting quotes but all were way too expensive for what I was looking for.

Anyways, took the advice of someone here, took a chance and advertised the job on elance.com. Got an unbelievable low price, a great service and a great website which I'm really happy with.

PM if you want more details or if you want a link to my website.

trad

If it's a simple straight forward site you are looking for, I use this company

http://www.rentawebsite.ie/

€50 set up and €30 a month and I happy with the site that they did for me.

Pixelcraft

This question is asked almost every week so there should be plenty of threads for you to search through with varying opinions on the best course to take. Like most things in life you get what you pay for, so it really boils down to how important the online presence will be to your business.

MovieExtras.ie: Derek

I set up a basic site using the Zen site builder which is available if you take a baisc hosting package from Blacknight.ie. Think it costs about €80 a year to host and €25 for the .ie.

You only need experience in PowerPoint or similiar, very straighforward and does all the SEO for you. The site that I developed is number 1 in its category.

It is a simple brochure site with a contact form.

The only downside with it is that you have to use a template header, though there are a couple of hundred to choose from.

So overall, it took me two evenings and abotu €100, plus I have complete control over making changes, adding pages etc.

patftrears

Pixelcraft wrote: »

Like most things in life you get what you pay for

waffle

You can get the exact same job done for price difference of between 70-90%.

OP first read up on what you want.
Most important rule is always buy the domain name yourself.
.com @€;8 per year http://godaddy.com
.ie @€;25 per year http://www.domainregistry.ie/ListResellers.php

Hosting of a website costs around €50 per year.



There are 1000s of website designers in Ireland all offering the same thing, find out what you want and get best price. It's a website so you can see for yourself if it's what you want.

Pixelcraft

patftrears wrote: »

waffle

This is the kind of nonsense these questions always get on boards unfortunately. There are 1000's of 'web designers' but to say they offer the same things is simply untrue. Anyway, this has all been covered so there's no point in dragging the cost debate up again

MrMatisse

Hey Scubakid,
I went through this process a little while back.

Make sure you meet the web designer face to face, get a very detailed breakdown of what you will be getting for you money and ask for a draft or very close example of what type of site you will be getting before you hand over any money.

I expect at present you will be getting a lot of PM's from designers. Make sure they have a very broad portfolio of work and make sure what theyve done so far for the price your willing to pay is what you want.

thesteve

trad wrote: »

If it's a simple straight forward site you are looking for, I use this company

http://www.rentawebsite.ie/

€50 set up and €30 a month and I happy with the site that they did for me.

Oh the irony of a website company not even designing their own website themselves!

patftrears

Pixelcraft wrote: »

This is the kind of nonsense these questions always get on boards unfortunately. There are 1000's of 'web designers' but to say they offer the same things is simply untrue. Anyway, this has all been covered so there's no point in dragging the cost debate up again

It's a fact. You can get a website done via elance rentacoder for a €100-200 that an Irish company would charge €1000-2000.

OP buy your domain name and hosting package.
Then go to http://www.elance.com/ or adverts.ie and post a request for the website you want, you will get a great looking website for €100.

If you have any questions about technical stuff, post here and you will get the answer.
You can get the website up and running for less than €200.

trad

thesteve wrote: »

Oh the irony of a website company not even designing their own website themselves!

Like some people I wanted a simple website. It was advertised with up front pricing which most "developers" won't do and you can view what your site looks like in advance instead of the client and the developer wasting each others time looking / designing.

How many "Irish made " products are actually made here or are just assembled here from components sourced from elsewhere.

Pixelcraft

patftrears wrote: »

It's a fact. You can get a website done via elance rentacoder for a €100-200 that an Irish company would charge €1000-2000.

Didn't dispute that, i'm disputing the end result being the same. You can also get some Irish companies doing a site at that price, and the quality would be similar to rent a coder.

As I said from the start, it all depends on how important the web is or will be to your core business.

GoneShootin

scubakid wrote: »

This might not be the best place to put this but I need to find out quick.

It is an it isn't. A forum to get info from the technical perspective is this one:

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=23

Let me give you my experience as a Web Tech Professional (ya it's a makey upy type of title, but can't think of another one right now ), and as someone that has an understanding of how business selects a web design company.

In my case for a company I worked for I was brought in as technical consultant into the project. We got 3 quotes from local designers, 2 of which made the shortlist. They made the shortlist based on their sales pitch. One in particular made the job sound so easy - boasting a decent looking client portfolio and their own CMS (content management). They also came back with the most competitive price, so we chose them.

Would I choose them again? Never. The project management was a farce, as was the attention to detail based on the agreed spec. Things like "best SEO practice" etc were never followed up on etc etc. We finally got the website we wanted, but it look a long time to get there.

And so we come to the opposite viewpoint. We were building a web application that needed a design bolted it onto it. We wanted a nice clean modern looking feel, so we tendered it out on getafreelancer.com. We reckoned that as the money was small that if the work came back to a poor standard nothing major lost right? What was returned was as good a design I've seen for a fraction of the cost. It's *possible* that the design wasn't from scratch, but it looked good to us - as it did to our customers.

So in the end you can go and buy a Merc costing 40k that gets you to the same B from A as a second hand Lada would. But when learning to drive, I bet your first car was (if you had one) a cheap enough runaround. But you got to learn how the thing works and what to look out for next time around.

My advice to you is, if you have the time, would be to consider going down the "indian outsource/cheapo irish" route. Spend *small* money. Get your site up. Get your content sorted. Then a few weeks/months later when you know what you want and how things should look approach a "professional" local company. One that will take a holistic approach to web marketing, search engine placement, organic links etc etc.

radiodrive

I just put up my own website two weeks ago. I spent just under 25E for hosting with digiweb. Then another 5e on my .com using the discount codes saving 2.50 off the usual retail price (available at godaddy). I made the website myself, and well ok its not amazing but it does the trick. So all in it was E30 for a year which is pretty good.

Just so you can see what 30E gets, have a look.
www.dinobuy.com

I should point out I wanted to see how cost effective i could make a business and this is it two weeks after launch. Oh and i have no prior experience on website development (which probably shows!) There are a few more tweaks too be made but you get the idea.

Having seen what my workplace spent on a single page for their website, I'm glad I did the D.I.Y

AARRRGH

Pixelcraft wrote: »

You can also get some Irish companies doing a site at that price, and the quality would be similar to rent a coder.

As always, you ignore the fact that wages in Ireland are about 10 - 20 times higher what they are in other countries, e.g. Belarus, Ukraine, etc.

That is why oursourcing is cheaper: wage differences.

OP, always be aware of who is giving you advice. People with vested interests are rarely honest.

hobochris

The most important factor here is what is a "simple website"?? there is no finite definition of this!

when the client says simple website it can range from a 5 page static site to something that requires a great number of hours working on custom server side code, with the end result if its done right appearing to be a very simple clean looking website, with a huge amount of functionality in the back end that the client doesn't know about so therefor cant appreciate the work put in.

The mark of a good server side developer is that the client will never realize how complicated the site actually is.

HealthyWay

I suppose it's horses for courses. If you are just starting up then I would look to go the DIY route. There is plenty of good help available online (boards.ie for example!!). Once the company is up and running and making money then upgrade to a purpose built site as part of an overall branding and marketing strategy.

yeahimhere

hobochris wrote: »

The most important factor here is what is a "simple website"?? there is no finite definition of this!

Well technically there is, they mean site usability. Sometimes this is a fact that some people / designers can forget. It's easy to create a site that has all the information for a company but that doesn't mean when the general public visit, they'll be able to find what they need/want on the site.

As there's so much choice on the internet these days, people will only spend a small amount of time on a site before trying another if they can't find what they want.

As long as the site is clean, simple and easy to navigate they'll be happy. They don't care how complicated or how much work has gone into the back end. If it doesn't work on the front end, it doesn't matter.

Joseph

400-500 euro

The Guvnor

GoneShootin wrote: »

It is an it isn't. A forum to get info from the technical perspective is this one:

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=23

Let me give you my experience as a Web Tech Professional (ya it's a makey upy type of title, but can't think of another one right now ), and as someone that has an understanding of how business selects a web design company.

In my case for a company I worked for I was brought in as technical consultant into the project. We got 3 quotes from local designers, 2 of which made the shortlist. They made the shortlist based on their sales pitch. One in particular made the job sound so easy - boasting a decent looking client portfolio and their own CMS (content management). They also came back with the most competitive price, so we chose them.

Would I choose them again? Never. The project management was a farce, as was the attention to detail based on the agreed spec. Things like "best SEO practice" etc were never followed up on etc etc. We finally got the website we wanted, but it look a long time to get there.

And so we come to the opposite viewpoint. We were building a web application that needed a design bolted it onto it. We wanted a nice clean modern looking feel, so we tendered it out on getafreelancer.com. We reckoned that as the money was small that if the work came back to a poor standard nothing major lost right? What was returned was as good a design I've seen for a fraction of the cost. It's *possible* that the design wasn't from scratch, but it looked good to us - as it did to our customers.

So in the end you can go and buy a Merc costing 40k that gets you to the same B from A as a second hand Lada would. But when learning to drive, I bet your first car was (if you had one) a cheap enough runaround. But you got to learn how the thing works and what to look out for next time around.

My advice to you is, if you have the time, would be to consider going down the "indian outsource/cheapo irish" route. Spend *small* money. Get your site up. Get your content sorted. Then a few weeks/months later when you know what you want and how things should look approach a "professional" local company. One that will take a holistic approach to web marketing, search engine placement, organic links etc etc.

Top notch advice imo. Advice which we all should heed, myself very much included. All too easy to want your website to be the best of the best from the start but with many things perfection is rarely attainable and hence you end up stalling your 'go live' date.

priscilladeegan

radiodrive wrote: »

I just put up my own website two weeks ago. I spent just under 25E for hosting with digiweb. Then another 5e on my .com using the discount codes saving 2.50 off the usual retail price (available at godaddy). I made the website myself, and well ok its not amazing but it does the trick. So all in it was E30 for a year which is pretty good.

Just so you can see what 30E gets, have a look.
www.dinobuy.com

I should point out I wanted to see how cost effective i could make a business and this is it two weeks after launch. Oh and i have no prior experience on website development (which probably shows!) There are a few more tweaks too be made but you get the idea.

Having seen what my workplace spent on a single page for their website, I'm glad I did the D.I.Y

You might want to test it in firefox. menus are overlapping.

MOH

priscilladeegan wrote: »

You might want to test it in firefox. menus are overlapping.

Just about to post that. Also the fonts seem to randomly change on different pages. And the logo doesn't seem to work properly (in FF or in IE6). And the site name is misspelled in the footer.

I have no idea what dinobuy does? Apart from apparently sell 2 items?