England v Aus ODIs

Beasty

Ponting is back, having been back to Australiafor a break. Hopefully a good omen for England who need to win all 4 remaining matches to win the series!

Marshy

220 all out for England, another sub-par score from them.

Chances of 7-0?

Beasty

Marshy wrote: »

220 all out for England, another sub-par score from them.

Chances of 7-0?

4-0 now, and it does not look like the weather will help!

Dozen Wicked Words

England's batsmen just haven't turned up. The bowlers have never had a chance. Very substandard England (not that their best standard one day team is earth shattering)

Maybe they don't really care enough, a being victorious in the Ashes hangover. I think the ODIs seem to be an anti-climax after winning the little urn.

England won the one day series after the hammering they got in the 2006/07 Ashes.

Australia won in 2005 after losing the Ashes after such a long time.

To lose 7 - 0 though, no matter how disinterested the team might be, would be a miserable display (and looking fairly likely).

Royale with Cheese

It's basically Strauss vs Australia... and even then Strauss can't make a big score. Gets to 40-60 everytime, then loses his wicket and England collapse.

mmaniac

How Australia could of done with Brett Lee in the ashes. Think 7-0 is on the cards. How bad has Englands running been aswell. Shah and Bopara the worst offenders. Also Prior has given his wicket away a bit to easy.

Beasty

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

It's basically Strauss vs Australia... and even then Strauss can't make a big score. Gets to 40-60 everytime, then loses his wicket and England collapse.

I agree only Strauss has performed with the bat, but the bowlers have been up to standard, and England have identified a spinner (and possibly in due course all-rounder) of real potential in Rashid

Beasty

mmaniac wrote: »

How Australia could of done with Brett Lee in the ashes.

In the same way England could have done with a fully-fit Flintoff (and Pietersen). You can only beat the opposition that turn up, and no-one will ever know what difference Lee (or Flintoff or Pietersen) would have made.

Beasty

dooferoaks wrote: »

England's batsmen just haven't turned up. The bowlers have never had a chance. Very substandard England (not that their best standard one day team is earth shattering)

Maybe they don't really care enough, a being victorious in the Ashes hangover. I think the ODIs seem to be an anti-climax after winning the little urn.

England won the one day series after the hammering they got in the 2006/07 Ashes.

Australia won in 2005 after losing the Ashes after such a long time.

To lose 7 - 0 though, no matter how disinterested the team might be, would be a miserable display (and looking fairly likely).

I agree with your comments. It may have been different if England had won one of the first couple of matches. However it's all too easy to look back on the Test series as the main objective for the summer once the heads are down.

There must be a strong argument to play the ODIs before the Test Series in an Ashes summer to avoid the risk of anti-climax

Cremated

As a previous poster said, what a difference Brett Lee would have made to the Ashes, well I'd like to think he would have,

also is it just me or does Owais Shah just look lazy, his running between wickets is slow at best?,

I cant see anything but 7-0 right now, especially with Lee and Johnson and Watson taking wickets,

Lee in the last ODI was immense...

Marshy

Nice knock from Morgan there.

England have 300 to defend, should be enough but wouldn't put the house on it.

Beasty

Much better batting performance from England, with runs all the way down to Rashid at number 9

Aussies are 89/2 after 17, requiring another 211 off 33

Dozen Wicked Words

Think Australia are going to win again, but it was nice to see some runs on the board. Morgan gave the middle order some much needed oommmpff. Aus need 130 from 118, only 2 down.

Marshy

Another Aus win alright, nice ton from Ponting.

Cremated

Lee was rested for the last game, does anyone know if he will be selected for the 6th game?,

I was watching on CricInfo and seems a lot of people emailed in about him not playing...

dfx-

112-5 chasing 297 with 23 overs left.

It's not going well..

Edit...126/7 Mascarenhas bowled. Might be 6-0..

Marshy

Hope Aus make it an unprecedented 7-0 now on Sunday.

Its strange because you wouldn't exactly call it an outstanding Australian team.

Dozen Wicked Words

A marginally above average Australian team (though currently No. 1 in the world according to the Rankings) playing a truly substandard One day team. Can't see anything other than a 7 - 0, which will become the best/worst performance by a one day team in the history of ODIs. 6 - 1 is currently the best/worst.

Strauss must be wondering if he had been better off avoiding the One Day team altogether, he is the only player in the team to come out with any credit at all (he has a had a couple of shocking umpire decisions).

I think they must be spending too much time watching the 09 ashes on DVD, they certainly aren't improving their one day game anyway.

Beasty

I (confidently) predict a 6-1 final score:p

IH77

Beasty wrote: »

I (confidently) predict a 6-1 final score:p

I won't be putting my house on it!

Bobo148

The final match in the series is all set up for the match fixers.

Noone expects England to compete, Australia can go back to the top of the rankings if they win and in the context of the series the result is irrelevant.

All this points towards a great chance to make a killing at the book makers, and I bet the Corruption boys at the ICC are all over it.

England to win, you heard it here first!

IH77

Bobo148 wrote: »

The final match in the series is all set up for the match fixers.

Noone expects England to compete, Australia can go back to the top of the rankings if they win and in the context of the series the result is irrelevant.

All this points towards a great chance to make a killing at the book makers, and I bet the Corruption boys at the ICC are all over it.

England to win, you heard it here first!

scrap my last comment, house is going on it! COME ON ENGLAND!!

Beasty

IH77 wrote: »

I won't be putting my house on it!

I won't be putting mine on it either, but I think England will drag theselves off the floor for this one, and hopefully the Aussies are de-mob happy at the end of a long tour (and, indeed, with their eyes on the Champions trophy)

Anyway, you'll all be able to shoot me down if (when:)) they complete the whitewash

Beasty

Bobo148 wrote: »

England to win, you heard it here first!

Sorry, but I think I got there at least 40 minutes before you:D

Dozen Wicked Words

Bobo148 wrote: »

The final match in the series is all set up for the match fixers.

Noone expects England to compete, Australia can go back to the top of the rankings if they win and in the context of the series the result is irrelevant.

All this points towards a great chance to make a killing at the book makers, and I bet the Corruption boys at the ICC are all over it.

England to win, you heard it here first!

Australia are already top of the Rankings, they went there last night, if they don't win the final game of the series they slip back down to second.

I would have my doubts that England could even beat a team trying to throw a match anyway.:rolleyes:

Beasty

dooferoaks wrote: »

Australia are already top of the Rankings, they went there last night, if they don't win the final game of the series they slip back down to second.

I would have my doubts that England could even beat a team trying to throw a match anyway.:rolleyes:

I wonder. Who were the last team England beat in a ODI:rolleyes:?

Marshy

Beasty wrote: »

I wonder. Who were the last team England beat in a ODI:rolleyes:?

A game the Oirish really shoula won

Beasty

Marshy wrote: »

A game the Oirish really shoula won

Which made it all the sweeter:D

Beasty

Aussies 149-6 after 40, with Swann taking 3 wickets. England bowling well, and giving themselves a chance

Beasty

2 more for Swann. He finishes with 5-28. Hussey stll there - 163-9 after 43.1 overs

Beasty

Nice to see the Aussies fail to use all their overs - 176 all out, with Hussey last man out for 49. England need just over 3.5 an over

Marshy

England are gonna win this one at a canter.

If anything though, today's game proves just how poor they've been throughout the series against an Aus team who are no great shakes in all truth.

Beasty

Marshy wrote: »

England are gonna win this one at a canter.

If anything though, today's game proves just how poor they've been throughout the series against an Aus team who are no great shakes in all truth.

England 140-4 after 30, having just lost a couple of wickets. I guess it wouldn't be England without some hiccup, but I still remain confident they will win this one:)

Not sure about the "Aus team who are no great shakes" comment. Admitedly they were without Ponting at the start of the series, and have ditched one of their best players in Symonds. However you don't get to no. 1 in the world without having a pretty decent team

Cremated

145-5 now, Morgan gone for two...

Beasty

162-6 - 15 required off 13 overs with Collingwood and Bresnan at the wicket

Beasty

England 177-6 win with over 9 overs to spare

Marshy

Beasty wrote: »

England 140-4 after 30, having just lost a couple of wickets. I guess it wouldn't be England without some hiccup, but I still remain confident they will win this one:)

Not sure about the "Aus team who are no great shakes" comment. Admitedly they were without Ponting at the start of the series, and have ditched one of their best players in Symonds. However you don't get to no. 1 in the world without having a pretty decent team

They did their best to give Australia a shot at the 7-0 with that mini collapse!

Well it was a slight exaggeration. Aus have played well, no doubt but I'd question their no. 1 status. Reckon SA are ahead of them, probably India as well.

Actually this table seems to have them as 3rd now, perhaps as a result of today's loss.

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/page/211271.html

I guess we'll have a better idea of how good they are after the Champions Trophy.

Dozen Wicked Words

Beasty wrote: »

I (confidently) predict a 6-1 final score:p

Bobo148 wrote: »

The final match in the series is all set up for the match fixers.

Noone expects England to compete, Australia can go back to the top of the rankings if they win and in the context of the series the result is irrelevant.

All this points towards a great chance to make a killing at the book makers, and I bet the Corruption boys at the ICC are all over it.

England to win, you heard it here first!

In awe of the predictions.:eek:

Having managed to see all the previous games (unfortunately!), I managed to miss the rarest thing of all, an England win. Hopefully they will stick in a decent performance at the Champions Trophy.

Linus67

dooferoaks wrote: »

In awe of the predictions.:eek:

Having managed to see all the previous games (unfortunately!), I managed to miss the rarest thing of all, an England win. Hopefully they will stick in a decent performance at the Champions Trophy.

Yeah, hopefully they will do better. Their performance in ODI's is terrible though.

Beasty

Linus67 wrote: »

Yeah, hopefully they will do better. Their performance in ODI's is terrible though.

Not so confident about this one:D

However, having thought about it, I would not be surprised if England get to the semi-finals. They probably need to win 2 of their three matches (Sri Lanka, South Africa and New Zeland). Although SA are hosting this tournament they have not been playing much cricket recently and NZ have not exactly been setting the world alight. In addition, some rain is forecast for the match v SL, which could make it into more of a lottery

Dozen Wicked Words

Don't fancy England against Sri Lanka after seeing them demolish South Africa. To be honest, I think South Africa will probably beat England too, and the New Zealand game will depend on their 3 or 4 big players. So unfortunately I don't think England will get to the Semis. (But hoping for another Beasty correct prediction and a Semi Final place!!;))

I reckon it will be South Africa, Sri Lanka, India, Australia in the Semis (not earth shattering predictions I know).

Thought Pakistan might do ok, but they were a bit shaky chasing the WIndies second XIs miserable total.

Gotta love tournaments in South Africa, just for the small time difference. Roll on the football world cup next year.