What should you set up bfore going to Aus?

Tigerandahalf

Hey all,
Looking into heading to aus soon. I'm just wondering if anyone out there would know what you should do here before heading out..e.g. should you book your whv separately or should you book with one of these visa agencies like visafirst or usit..These seem to help you with things like sim card, travel ins, sorting your apartment, bank account..etc. What would people recommend doing before heading off?? Sorry if this has been asked already but couldn't find anything on it.

paddylast

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Hey all,
Looking into heading to aus soon. I'm just wondering if anyone out there would know what you should do here before heading out..e.g. should you book your whv separately or should you book with one of these visa agencies like visafirst or usit..These seem to help you with things like sim card, travel ins, sorting your apartment, bank account..etc. What would people recommend doing before heading off?? Sorry if this has been asked already but couldn't find anything on it.

- got my visa through usit and had it 2-3 days later.
- dont get your bank or taxfile sorted with usit. threy charge about 20 euro each for them. bank account can be set up in (sydney) ANZ on georges st for free. and taxfile number can be set up for free when you get there in taxfile office.

i got a vodafone for for 60 dollars in the sydney airport on my way over. got good bit of free credit too.

for apt check gumtree for apt listings. most will come unfurnished. dont be put off as lots of backpackers have signs up selling fridges etc. you can also get lucky and find furnished apts on gumtree. if all esle fails try the furnished property group on pitt st (around number 600 pitt st if i remember right). costs a little more. if heading to Sydney try to get there mid november at the latest as the xmas rush for places and very few places are available from 1st wk of december.

hope that can be of help

Tigerandahalf

Thanks for that..ya I'm trying to get myself sorted and wondering about what I can do b4 I go. I heard it was a bit of hassle to get the tax number and that it would be easier to get it sorted here first....queueing in the tax office for hrs, etc...anyway 20 euro doesnt seem much to me for that.
What is my best bet re accom when I arrive in Melbourne. Should I just use a hostel for a while?

paddylast

yep defo stay in hostel when you get over. stayed in yha. theres a few of them in melbourne. the dearest one is on flinders st i think.

Tigerandahalf

Are hostels safe enough? Would you have a single room or would it be a common dorm area? Also would lockers be big enough to store luggage, valuables, etc. I know from others that they are a good way of meeting people.

Mellor

paddylast wrote: »

- got my visa through usit and had it 2-3 days later.
- dont get your bank or taxfile sorted with usit. threy charge about 20 euro each for them. bank account can be set up in (sydney) ANZ on georges st for free. and taxfile number can be set up for free when you get there in taxfile office.

I thought this was funny.

You didn't get you bank or taxfile number with USIT as they charge a ridic fee on top, yet you got your visa with them, where they charge an even bigger and more ridic fee on top.

I did my visa online, via the government website and had it 3-4 hours (not days) later. It was also less than half the price.

eringobragh

Mellor wrote: »

I thought this was funny.

You didn't get you bank or taxfile number with USIT as they charge a ridic fee on top, yet you got your visa with them, where they charge an even bigger and more ridic fee on top.

I did my visa online, via the government website and had it 3-4 hours (not days) later. It was also less than half the price.

x2:

Here's a couple of services that these agencies offer you can do that'll cost you fook all!



417 - Working Holiday Visa $230
(Same form you have to fill in USIT and Visafirst , only cheaper! )

http://www.immi.gov.au/visitors/working-holiday/417/



TFN - Tax File Number (apply when in Australia with a fixed address): FREE

http://www.ato.gov.au/



Bank Account: FREE

Can be applied for overseas by yourself. I know Westpac offer this service all you have to do is produce 100 points ID when you arrive (Show passport)




SIM Card $2

$2 for a Vodafone SIM in the Post Office!



International Driving Licence Not Required

YOU DON'T NEED ONE - An Irish DL is sufficient,

International DL only required for a non-english licence







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DamoDLK

eringobragh wrote: »

International Driving Licence Not Required

YOU DON'T NEED ONE - An Irish DL is sufficient,

International DL only required for a non-english licence...

Important point on this.. Full Irish Driving License is only valid for 3 months, at that point you are obliged to obtain a local one, in Victoria at least.

eringobragh

DamoDLK wrote: »

Important point on this.. Full Irish Driving License is only valid for 3 months, at that point you are obliged to obtain a local one, in Victoria at least.

Here 6 months now on my Irish DL and not a bother with it. No intention of changing it until I absolutely have to...No pesky demerit points

Zambia

Vicroads wrote:

If you are in Victoria on a temporary visa, you can drive on your overseas licence (provided it is current and valid) for an indefinite period provided your overseas licence is in English (or you have an English translation or an International Driving Permit).

If you are in Victoria on a permanent visa issued under the Migration Act 1958, you may drive on your overseas licence for three months from the date you first entered Australia or from the time the permanent visa was issued to you (whichever is the later). If you want to continue to drive in Victoria after this time you must hold a valid Victorian driver licence.

Must find out what happens to you if you dont is it considered driving unlicenced

Tigerandahalf

Thanks for the info there lads. What do people do as regards insurance while in Aus. Is it really necessary..like will you get general free treatment in the hospitals like here in Ireland or it best to get it. Should one avoid the visa/insurance packages???...and try to buy separately??

ballooba

Don't organise anything other than the Visa would be my advice, and do it directly through immi.gov.au not Visa First gangsters.

You don't need a fixed address to get your TFN, as advised above. Most hostels hold mail for three months so you can just order it to your hostel and then give them your new address when you get it.

Find an apartment through Gumtree.com.au or if looking with a few people and able to sign a lease then domain.com.au or realestate.com.au.

Hostels are fine for a few weeks until you get settled, there will be plenty others in the same boat.

Under no circumstances get an Aussie driving licence until you absolutely have to. Especially if you have had your full Irish for under three years. They will put you on P plates and it is a total pain in the ass. P plate drivers are allowed 7 demerit points before suspension, have a zero blood alcohol limit and may be restricted by speed or engine size. You will also find it near impossible to rent a car. If you have had your Irish licence over three years it is still advisable to keep it because it allows you 14 points (NSW) before suspension compared to 12 points for an Aussie licence.

Look around before deciding which bank to choose, I recommend BankWest because they are part of Commonwealth but have great offers. Commonwealth are the biggest bank with the biggest ATM network, to which BankWest customers have access for free. I bank with Commonwealth but would switch to BankWest if I wasn't so lazy. ANZ is the number two bank and I think StGeorge/Westpac is number three. Banks in Australia charge fees, and lots of them.

Only backpackers and ex-pats use Vodafone, it will be pushed on you. Three mobile has just a big network and is cheaper. Telstra are daylight robbery and Optus aren't much better.

ballooba

Zambia232 wrote: »

Must find out what happens to you if you dont is it considered driving unlicenced

Permanent visa is residency AFAIK, certainly not WHV or 457.

crimsonfire

Health insurance is a big one too. Most agencies that do your visa will also do your insurance for free or for a small fee. You have to pay for an ambulance pickup in a non-emergency as well as treatment depending on whether its a private or a public hospital. What that means is if your on the verge of death its cool. No payment. If you fell and smacked your head pretty badly but are not going to die (like I did) then you could be looking at around $400 plus in medical bills.

Zambia

ballooba wrote: »

Permanent visa is residency AFAIK, certainly not WHV or 457.

And you would be correct:cool:

Zambia

crimsonfire wrote: »

If you fell and smacked your head pretty badly but are not going to die (like I did) then you could be looking at around $400 plus in medical bills.

Ouch maybe the 63 bucks I spent last week on a years ambulance cover was not a bad idea??

man1

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

..like will you get general free treatment in the hospitals like here in Ireland or it best to get it. ?

Thats a good one!!!:D Hospitals...free...in ireland....HA! HA!

crimsonfire

Zambia232 wrote: »

Ouch maybe the 63 bucks I spent last week on a years ambulance cover was not a bad idea??

Nope it was a great idea. The ambulance is the priciest part unless your lucky enough to get one of the St. Johns or Red Cross. Don't think you have to pay them. Could be wrong though.

man1 wrote: »

Thats a good one!!!:D Hospitals...free...in ireland....HA! HA!

Aye, healthcare costs are generally better here but still not cheap. I hear you can pay as much as $200 for a dental checkup in the fancy areas of Sydney.

hussey

crimsonfire wrote: »

Aye, healthcare costs are generally better here but still not cheap. I hear you can pay as much as $200 for a dental checkup in the fancy areas nearly all of Sydney.

fixed that for you

and as covered before
http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/public/migrants/visitors/ireland-nz.jsp

As a resident of the Republic of Ireland or New Zealand you are entitled to free treatment as a public in-patient or outpatient at a public hospital and access to subsidised medicines under the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme during your visit to Australia. This covers any ill health or injury needing medical treatment while in Australia. To access these benefits you should show your passport at hospitals or pharmacies. You are not entitled to Medicare benefits for non-hospital medical care and you will not be issued with a Medicare card.

brendansmith

You should set up a massive line of dominoes all around your house with the last one activing a bomb. And then tip the first one as you are going out the door

jank

Are you going alone or with an other half?

mickoneill30

Mellor wrote: »

You didn't get you bank or taxfile number with USIT as they charge a ridic fee on top, yet you got your visa with them, where they charge an even bigger and more ridic fee on top.

When I got mine with Usit the fee included insurance. At the time (a couple of years ago) this worked out cheaper for me than getting them seperate. Who's the best (as in cheapest) insurance provider these days?

dave98

OP thanks for starting this thread. Im hoping to go within the next few months.. And as Im going alone I had all the exact same questions as you. Now most have been answered. Thanks lads.

Is it a bit weird to be going alone or do loads of people do it?

Tigerandahalf

Hey Dave,
I may be heading in Nov..not exactly sure yet. Will be going on my own at start...a bit scary but exciting as well..went abroad for summer on my own before and it was a great experience...where r u thinking of heading and what line of work are you hoping to get into??

dave98

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Hey Dave,
I may be heading in Nov..not exactly sure yet. Will be going on my own at start...a bit scary but exciting as well..went abroad for summer on my own before and it was a great experience...where r u thinking of heading and what line of work are you hoping to get into??

Aw thats good. I was a bit nervous about going alone but its all positive things coming back. Im a retail manager now but i'd settle for anything really. How bout yourself? I'm thinking of going after xmas. Where you thinking of heading?

Tigerandahalf

prob melbourne first...see after that...i was thinking of being there before xmas rush but nothin definite yet....a bit of sun would be nice....get away from cold short days and long nights...aus economy seems to be picking up as well...last 2 months had positive growth.

38141

ballooba wrote: »

Look around before deciding which bank to choose, I recommend BankWest because they are part of Commonwealth but have great offers. Commonwealth are the biggest bank with the biggest ATM network, to which BankWest customers have access for free. I bank with Commonwealth but would switch to BankWest if I wasn't so lazy. ANZ is the number two bank and I think StGeorge/Westpac is number three. Banks in Australia charge fees, and lots of them.

The bankwest transaction account t&c's stipulate in 1st para that only available to oz citizens and permanent residents Anyone try on whv?

http://www.bankwest.com.au/library/pdf/PDS_20080125-110540.pdf

Popinjay

On the subject of Driver's License... Get an Oz one if you're a resident. It's a piece of piss.

I landed Wednesday (as I mentioned in another thread) and on Friday I had a QLD License in my hand. It cost me $75-odd for a 5 year which is the same as it costs any Ozzie.

I walked into the Transport Office with my Passport, two Irish ATM Cards (Ulsterbank and Permanent TSB). Since I was only just off the plane, I had no evidence of residency in QLD so I was given a quick form to fill out. You have to have one half filled out by a QLD License holder who you live with though so this may not suit everyone. My advice in that instance is set up your bank account and use the letter they post your bank card to your Oz address (only takes about 3 days or so).

All-in-all, I was holding a License within 2 hours or so. Some jobs require you to have a valid drivers license for the state you're in so it's no harm.

And as for Balloba's bit, I held my Irish license for 2 years and am on a full QLD License, no P's at all. It's worth noting that things like this can be different in each state so check the requirements online before you do anything.

ballooba

I also now hold a full QLD licence, the licensing rules here are much more practical than in NSW. I'm standing by my comments with regard to the NSW licence.

I wasn't aware that the Bankwest Account stipulated PR or citizenship as a requirement to get a Hero Transaction Account. Maybe it would be best to call them and clarify.

ballooba

I was doing some admin on my CommBank account just now and noticed that there is a permanent resident / citizenship requirement on my Mastercard account with CommBank. Given that BankWest are part of CommBank I would assume that WHV and 457 holers are elligible too. I was on a WHV when I first got my CommBank Mastercard, believe it or not. :-D

Kaka86

dave98 wrote: »

OP thanks for starting this thread. Im hoping to go within the next few months.. And as Im going alone I had all the exact same questions as you. Now most have been answered. Thanks lads.

Is it a bit weird to be going alone or do loads of people do it?

so thinkin the same ...going on my own ...got a career break from work startin in feb for a year and sick of people changing their minds so ive booked my flight, have my visa and the rest ....im workin on it ...I know people over ther but dont want to just land myself on them...Tryin to find out about hostels some are suppose to be nice....aaggghhh so nervous!!!

Zambia

Kaka86 wrote: »

so thinkin the same ...going on my own ...got a career break from work startin in feb for a year and sick of people changing their minds so ive booked my flight, have my visa and the rest ....im workin on it ...I know people over ther but dont want to just land myself on them...Tryin to find out about hostels some are suppose to be nice....aaggghhh so nervous!!!

Relax you will be fine, book any hostel for the first few nights in the city you land in. Be sure to have enough cash for a month or two and you cant go to far wrong.

Tigerandahalf

Hello all,
Im filling in the online form for the WHV at the moment. It's asking for the date that I propose to leave. I'm not sure of the exact date yet. Can I put in a rough date or will this affect my entry into the country.
Thanks.

Zambia

Rough date should be fine

Tigerandahalf

Thanks..
I have made the payment ($220)..do I have to go through the links it says at the bottom of the page..
1. retrieve and print your application form
2. retrieve and print your payment receipt details
3. nominate your passport with the Department
4. attach documents
any ideas???

Zambia

Sorry Dude I last applied for a WHV in 1995. I have no idea what to tell you

Flairpinnedme

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Thanks..
I have made the payment ($220)..do I have to go through the links it says at the bottom of the page..
1. retrieve and print your application form
2. retrieve and print your payment receipt details
3. nominate your passport with the Department
4. attach documents
any ideas???

nah. you should get an email soon saying everything has gone through ok

38141

Would a yha membership card be useful in the hostels around australia for discounts, or which one is most popular down there?

Where can these be got in ireland?

Tigerandahalf

A question for ye..if you are booking flights do you need to book a return flight. It's just that I'm not too sure when I might be coming back...6 months, a year, maybe more. Would it look suspicious going through immigration? Would you be pulled up?
If I have to book return is it easy to change return flight and at what cost?
WHV btw.
Thanks.

hussey

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

A question for ye..if you are booking flights do you need to book a return flight. It's just that I'm not too sure when I might be coming back...6 months, a year, maybe more. Would it look suspicious going through immigration? Would you be pulled up?
If I have to book return is it easy to change return flight and at what cost?
WHV btw.
Thanks.

Once you have funds for a return journey it's not a problem
lots of people come over with just one way ticket - not a problem

Tigerandahalf

When are they likely to check your account though..is it hit and miss and are you likely to be pulled over in immigration when they see you have no return ticket?
(I'm presuming here that they only do random checks re having sufficient funds in your account)
What have others done??

Kaka86

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

When are they likely to check your account though..is it hit and miss and are you likely to be pulled over in immigration when they see you have no return ticket?
(I'm presuming here that they only do random checks re having sufficient funds in your account)
What have others done??

Hey i booked my return flight ...just though i had to ...i booked it with a local travel agents so i just have to ring them when i know i want to come back and they'll change the date for me...
About the account thing ...i work in a bank and there is no way for anyone to check your account, they do random things like asking you to send them a statement or a letter from your bank showing that you have sufficient money to get home...but i think they may have stopped that in the past few years ...cause all people were doing is leaving the money in getting a bank statement and then taking everything out ..(my plan)

whyulittle

Flew into Brisbane on Friday morning. A quick look at the passport, a few of them looking at the landing card as I moved through, and quick xray of my bag. Took about 3 minutes. No questions asked about money, accomodation, return flight etc.

Tigerandahalf

Might book the return while Ive the cash now

The_B_Man

I;d book a return flight anyway. After a few months over here ur gonna be broke and wont be able to afford one. im in that situation now. im here on my 2nd WHV and my flights expired so now i have to fork out for a one way ticket home in a few months. its a pain in the arse saving. its hassle i could do without.

so regardles of immigration stuff, get the return flight. it cant hurt, and could save ur ass if immigration pulls u up on it. and sure worst comes to worst u can change the flight for about 50 quid!

Also, get a drivers licence! It'll be a big help! And learn to swim if u can!

Maire2009

I agree with B-Man above.

I'd book the return flight. I booked mine for the middle of next year and can change the date for a fee of €70. It stops me worrying about how I'll get home if it all goes belly up and I've no money - least I'll have my flights, well to London anyway, have to find a fiver for the Ryanair flights then

Tigerandahalf

Grand thanks for that.
Re opening a bank account in Melbourne, who should I go with?? Read the other post about bank accounts..there seems to be a good few of them.
What is the best re easiest to set up, deposit cash, direct debits and charges for atm withdrawals.
Cheers

MrMatisse

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Grand thanks for that.
Re opening a bank account in Melbourne, who should I go with?? Read the other post about bank accounts..there seems to be a good few of them.
What is the best re easiest to set up, deposit cash, direct debits and charges for atm withdrawals.
Cheers

+1

Anyone know which bank in melbourne caters best for those on a WHV?

Cheers.

The_B_Man

they're all the same really. tho i think bankwest have done away with monthly fees so i'd go with them. im with ANZ and they charge 5 dollars a month.

theres no "backpacker special" in any of the banks though.

Maire2009

I'm with Westpac and they charge $5 a month as well.

Seems to be plenty outlets for whichever bank you choose.