New cross city cycling lane plan

StudentC

Plans for a new cycle lane from Rathmines to Fairview, in cycle-only lanes...

Here

Caroline_ie

The cycle lane equivalent of the Dart.

jman0

The detailed design of the lanes has yet to be finalised, but they will be of a higher specification than the existing orange coloured on-road cycle lanes, the department said. Unlike the existing lanes, the new lanes will be above the level of the roadway and there is likely to be a physical barrier to ensure cars cannot enter the cycle path, although the type of barrier has yet to be chosen. The lanes will be wide, up to 3.5m – wider than some traffic lanes on the route – to allow cyclists to travel in both directions

Maybe i'm a pessimist but i don't particularly like the sound of that.

trad

I'm glad to see some use being made of the Canals, Waterways Ireland seem dead set against boats using them. Don't see this as a done deal. In my opinion WI are a very conservative (narrow minded) Northern Ireland based orginisation and will be very slow to give an inch of their fifedom.

rottenhat

jman0 wrote: »

Maybe i'm a pessimist but i don't particularly like the sound of that.

Which part of it? Cycles lanes in Amsterdam are at a separate level from both the road and the path, and in my experience it works very well. I frequently encounter cyclists coming in the opposite direction on the N11 cycle path which is some way from being 3.5m wide, and it's rarely a problem.

Chips Lovell

Given how most other off-road cycle tracks have turned out I'll be interested to see whether this turns into an actual cycle route or a cycle/jogging/dog walking/pram pushing route.

I've said it before, but I'd rather that they fix the road surfaces before building all these cycle routes.

ROK ON

el tonto wrote: »

out it'll be interested to see whether this turns into an acutal cycle route or a cycle/jogging/dog walking/pram pushing route.

I've said it before, but I'd rather that they fix the road surfaces before building all these cycle routes.

Beat me to it. Damn, your quick.

jman0

i cycle much of that route 2x a day and this really concerns me.
If they allow cycling in both directions, it basically means they'll bar cyclists from the road and remove the existing cycle lane heading east to west along the canal.
Making it difficult for me to cycle home i'm sure.

Plus the footpath along that side of the canal is pretty heavily used by pedestrians.
I suspect this is designed with motorists in mind, not cyclists.
Push those cyclists out of motoritsts way, and let them conflict for space with pedestrians.
Same old, same old.

stopped_clock

It sounds not unlike an off-road cycle lane across the west end of London that I used occasionally. From memory, it was basically a very narrow 'road' ie had kerbs on both sides. It was sufficiently 'road-like' and busy that pedestrians stayed off it. On the downside, the busy-ness and narrowness meant all bike traffic moved at the speed of the slowest.

WithCheesePlease

The detailed design work is now under way and construction is due to begin next January and be completed by the end of next year.

Now call me a sceptic, but....

Doctor Bob

jman0 wrote: »

i cycle much of that route 2x a day and this really concerns me.
If they allow cycling in both directions, it basically means they'll bar cyclists from the road and remove the existing cycle lane heading east to west along the canal.
Making it difficult for me to cycle home i'm sure.

Plus the footpath along that side of the canal is pretty heavily used by pedestrians.
I suspect this is designed with motorists in mind, not cyclists.
Push those cyclists out of motoritsts way, and let them conflict for space with pedestrians.
Same old, same old.

Can't bar cyclists from anything except a motorway, afaik.

Pretty sure this is going inside the canal rather than outside it, i.e. along Wilton Terrace, Herbert Place, Warrington Place, etc., rather than Grand Parade, Mespil Road, Haddington Road.

Great for a family Sunday spin; less convincing as a commuter route. Rejigging the junctions will have significant impacts on traffic on the cross (arterial) routes- does DCC have the cojones for it?

I'd fully agree with el tonto- this 'Let's move to Shelbyville' approach to cycle infrastructure needs to stop. Fix the existing, fer chrissakes!

jman0

Doctor Bob wrote: »

Pretty sure this is going inside the canal rather than outside it, i.e. along Wilton Terrace, Herbert Place, Warrington Place, etc., rather than Grand Parade, Mespil Road, Haddington Road.

Yes that's what i think too.
But if the traffic on the proposed cycle-track is two-way, then they'll probably remove the cycle lane on the South side of Grand parade, Mespil Road, Haddington. Which will make it more difficult to head west.
Heck, they'll probably also remove the cycle lane on the North side of the road too.

Rejigging the junctions will have significant impacts on traffic on the cross (arterial) routes- does DCC have the cojones for it?

Yes to the first part, Nay to the second. It'll probably mean that at every crossing point, the cyclists loose natural rights of way in exactly the same manner they do on every other "off-road cycle lane".