Honda Accord- Am I mad????

fearruanua · 08-09-2009 10:42pm #1

really like these cars and i'm on the look out for a 05/06 diesel. but alot of people keep telling me they they are very expensive to keep on the road. i know the tax on a 2.2 engine is around 800 euro but are parts and service really expensive?? are they a reliable car?? my other choice of car would be an S40. any advice would be appreciated

brendansmith · 08-09-2009 10:48pm

fearruanua wrote: »

really like these cars and i'm on the look out for a 05/06 diesel. but alot of people keep telling me they they are very expensive to keep on the road. i know the tax on a 2.2 engine is around 800 euro but are parts and service really expensive?? are they a reliable car?? my other choice of car would be an S40. any advice would be appreciated

They are a very reliable car. Bulletproof if you will!

L-M · 08-09-2009 10:50pm

I can't say alot for the Accord reliability wise, but one thing I can say is stay well away from the 05/06 S40. I know of two people that have them one of which needed a new turbo, followed by an engine rebuild. And constantly has minor problems with theirs, the latest of which is the car taking a few minutes to start. (Both of which are 2.0d which I must say is a cracker of an engine with plenty og poke).

Reliability isn't the main issue here though, as it may just be those two but it's the cabin that's really disappointed. The lack of space is unreal. There are very little storage areas, and any of which are tiny. Leg room for the drivers passenger is horrible, and for the two rears. There's no foot rest either for the driver IIRC.

The Accord would be a much nicer buy IMO, or just buy a Focus, lol.

bush Baby · 08-09-2009 10:51pm

S40 for a trouble free motoring life. Mine is 11 years old on 214,000 miles and I think the clutch is starting to slip......

colm_mcm · 08-09-2009 10:53pm

Thats cos yours is a tarted up Mitsubishi, the new one is a tarted up Ford

lucky-colm · 08-09-2009 10:56pm

i think you are a complete nutter:eek:

mickdw · 08-09-2009 10:56pm

Accord is a great choice. Never any problems, fab diesel engine, nice looking car. Now If you are buying 05/06, you can take it away from the main dealer to a good independant garage. Your servicing will then cost less than say a focus being serviced at main dealer I would think. At least you know how much the tax is going to cost and if you can afford that, fine. Very little possibility of unforeseen faults so compare this to any other makes and it may well be quite economical in the end.

Technique · 08-09-2009 11:08pm

I've got an 05 Accord and I love it to bits. The tax is a bit painful, alright, but if you're getting a diesel you're going to be paying €500 or €600 anyway. Don't look at it as €800, look at it as €200 extra.

Mine has all the extras and it feels really special to drive. 110k on the clock, but to use the old cliche, drives like a car with 10k.

It's our second car, and in the current climate I should sell it, but it would break my heart. I've nearly convinced myself that I could drive a 1.4 fiesta or the like, but I keep pulling myself away from the precipice.:o

Mr. darragh · 08-09-2009 11:16pm

get the type R

bazz26 · 08-09-2009 11:25pm

The Accord is a very reliable and well built car. I had one as a company car many years ago. They can be a little bit more expensive on parts than say a Mondeo or Avensis but given how reliable they are unless you are very unlucky they tend not to spend too much time in the garage. Only thing to watch on the 2.2 diesel is the oil level, that engine likes to use a bit of oil so keep an eye on it.

Regarding the S40, yes it is a smaller car being based on the Focus and I cannot comment on the reliability of the 2.0d but I have a 06 1.6d since March and it now has 115k km on the clock with no issues. The interior is small but I don't need a big car and the spec is great given the price of them used, however despite being based on the Focus servicing and parts are more expensive even from an indy mechanic.

x in the city · 09-09-2009 1:31am

Mr. darragh wrote: »

get the type R

no type r in current shape, only a type s

which is more for a business man than a petrol head.

Biro · 09-09-2009 8:49am

fearruanua wrote: »

really like these cars and i'm on the look out for a 05/06 diesel. but alot of people keep telling me they they are very expensive to keep on the road. i know the tax on a 2.2 engine is around 800 euro but are parts and service really expensive?? are they a reliable car?? my other choice of car would be an S40. any advice would be appreciated

Threads with "am I mad" in the title usually should follow with "thinking of using a Corvette Stingray as a daily driver" or something like that, not a Diesel Accord! Expensive to keep on the road compared to what? Those people are silly. Buy one. They're a well built, reliable, frugal car that's comfortable with a nice chassis.
The Irish mentality is pure daft when it comes to cars. "That costs a fortune to tax - all of €100 per year more!" or "An oil filter for my car costs €7... it's a full €9 for that one - that car is really expensive to run". Sh!t like that is what they come out with.

pburns · 09-09-2009 10:06am

Biro wrote: »

Threads with "am I mad" in the title usually should follow with "thinking of using a Corvette Stingray as a daily driver" or something like that, not a Diesel Accord! Expensive to keep on the road compared to what? Those people are silly. Buy one. They're a well built, reliable, frugal car that's comfortable with a nice chassis.
The Irish mentality is pure daft when it comes to cars. "That costs a fortune to tax - all of €100 per year more!" or "An oil filter for my car costs €7... it's a full €9 for that one - that car is really expensive to run". Sh!t like that is what they come out with.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly when I saw the title! No offence but 'Honda Accord - Am I mad' is a littlle bit :pac::o...

Having said that I do think there's gonna be an issue with resale of say medium/big diesel cars of 06/07 vintage whose road tax is gonna be a helluva lot more expensive than a 08. An Accord would be a reasonable example (2.2 was hammered under old system). Too lazy to look it up but what is the difference between CO2 vs CC based tax for this car?

Biro · 09-09-2009 10:08am

pburns wrote: »

Yeah, my thoughts exactly when I saw the title! No offence but 'Honda Accord - Am I mad' is a littlle bit :pac::o...

Having said that I do think there's gonna be an issue with resale of say medium/big diesel cars of 06/07 vintage whose road tax is gonna be a helluva lot more expensive than a 08. An Accord would be a reasonable example - too lazy to look it up but what is the difference between CO2 vs CC based tax for this car?

It's between €800 and €850 to tax it based on CC, and around €300 to tax based on CO2, so ya, a nice difference. But it'll take a while before the difference in the cost of the car makes it economical to buy the newer one. It'll affect 07 ones more so.

Saab Ed · 09-09-2009 11:02am

colm_mcm wrote: »

Thats cos yours is a tarted up Mitsubishi, the new one is a tarted up Ford

With a Renault engine :eek::D...the old one that is. The new one has a Peugeot engine !!!

Leprechaun77 · 09-09-2009 1:18pm

I drive an 08 Volvo S40 and love the comfortable seats. It has nice interior and in comparison to other cars in it's size, is much easier on the eye inside....

Now the bad bits.....some very minor, some just minor but annoying.

The electrics can be a bit hormonal at certain times. Certain indication lights inside the car do not change after turning on for example the front fogs. Sometimes the rear lights remain on after being turned off and exitinf the car (maybe these are parking lights, but I don't think I've done anything different on occassions where these have remained on)

My front passenger window came of it's track, or whatever the technical term is, and would not open/close properly. This window/door is rarely even used. Also, when I was pulling out onto the main road from my own estate, the engine virtually conked out and left me stuck for power (luckily it was at night with no cars around as it might have left in the sh!t) An engine management light came on and I had to drive back around and go home at about 20km/h, (or 1500 rpm).

A nice car but a few quirks all the same

Reginald P. DuM · 09-09-2009 1:57pm

fearruanua wrote: »

really like these cars and i'm on the look out for a 05/06 diesel. but alot of people keep telling me they they are very expensive to keep on the road. i know the tax on a 2.2 engine is around 800 euro but are parts and service really expensive?? are they a reliable car?? my other choice of car would be an S40. any advice would be appreciated

I'm on my second accord now, both petrol.. super car. My current one sailed thru the nct with no prep. The harder you drive them the better they perform.. Tax is not cheap, but what your getting for your euro is a reliable, comfortable, strong and fast car. Accords are usually spec'd to the last, leather, a/c, cruise con etc.. So far parts haven't been an issue for me, this car wouldn't know where it was if it found itself in a garage!

My brother drives an 05 S40 diesel. He only has it 6 months but loves it, no problems so far and again its a big comfortable sturdy motor. Faster acceleration than the Honda but both travel as fast as you'll need them to on Irish roads. But my advice, go Japanese.

Fey! · 09-09-2009 5:27pm

I haven't driven a diesel accord, but my old petrol one only saw a garage for servicing in the 2 or 3 years I had it (same with the civic I had before it). They also tend to be pretty well specced.

RE: the S40; why the comments about it on here; the OP asked specifically about an Accord, so why not open a new thread dedicated to how bad the S40 is?

JHMEG · 09-09-2009 5:33pm

Mad, yes. Mad as a brush.

vengeance52 · 09-09-2009 5:47pm

ive the accord 2.2 2004 model and i love it to bits. comfy car and eats up the miles.

would defo recommend it

Mr Benevolent · 09-09-2009 5:47pm

Fey! wrote: »

I haven't driven a diesel accord, but my old petrol one only saw a garage for servicing in the 2 or 3 years I had it (same with the civic I had before it). They also tend to be pretty well specced.

RE: the S40; why the comments about it on here; the OP asked specifically about an Accord, so why not open a new thread dedicated to how bad the S40 is?

The OP said his other choice would an S40 in his first post.

Green Hornet · 09-09-2009 8:38pm

Half thinking of buying one myself. I've the new Civic saloon 1.8 petrol but do about 27k MILES/annum and am thinking of trading for an 06 diesel Accord.

By almost all accounts they are bullet proof! They are not that cheap to buy though. High tax or not.

positron · 09-09-2009 8:59pm

I am trying renew the insurance on my 2lt 05 Accord petrol and with 5+ years of no claim bonus, and ripe old 30+ years, its around 700 quid comprehensive! Some of them like nononsense.ie won't even quote as it's a group 6 car?!!

R.O.R · 10-09-2009 7:21am

positron wrote: »

I am trying renew the insurance on my 2lt 05 Accord petrol and with 5+ years of no claim bonus, and ripe old 30+ years, its around 700 quid comprehensive! Some of them like nononsense.ie won't even quote as it's a group 6 car?!!

Must be to do with where you live. I've the same car, similar circumstances (full no claims, 30+, licence held more years than i feel it should be) and I'm getting quoted €460.

Renewal notice from 123 came in last night so I just ran a quote on the website and it comes to same amount, down to the last cent! Good to see they are being honest - now to try the others.

Lex Luthor · 10-09-2009 11:45am

The Type S is certainly nicer than the Exec spec.

positron · 10-09-2009 12:03pm

R.O.R wrote: »

Must be to do with where you live. I've the same car, similar circumstances (full no claims, 30+, licence held more years than i feel it should be) and I'm getting quoted €460.

Thanks, went with 123 myself, approx 5k, including a named driver on prov.license! It was funny though, initially with just me the quote was approx 530, with named driver on prov license, it was the same, but when I tried named driver on full license, it dropped to 460!! :rolleyes: Strange...! Anyway, went with self, and named driver on prov.license. Thanks again!

shovelsfc · 10-09-2009 12:08pm

im looking for a 05/06 honda accord too....if you have the money then go for it! i might wait another year

shovelsfc · 10-09-2009 12:09pm

800 euro is really only 200 more.....nice thinking!!

shovelsfc · 10-09-2009 12:09pm

what about A4 sline....nice i think

Lex Luthor · 10-09-2009 1:20pm

shovelsfc wrote: »

what about A4 sline....nice i think

trying to keep the competition away from picking up the next bargain before you?

Biro · 10-09-2009 3:54pm

shovelsfc wrote: »

what about A4 sline....nice i think

Accord is a better car, and much better value.

fifth · 10-09-2009 4:52pm

I'm going to add another recommendation to the Accord.. mines an 06 and I still get comments on how good it looks, how comfy it is - smooth ride. It's such a drivers car..

Go for it!

2.0 Litre petrol is just over €600 to tax for a year.

roosterman71 · 10-09-2009 5:08pm

Is the 2.0l petrol better value than the 2.2l diesel?

fifth · 10-09-2009 6:01pm

roosterman71 wrote: »

Is the 2.0l petrol better value than the 2.2l diesel?

Well, let's have a look:

from what I've seen around the petrol models are more common on carzone, and can be bought cheaper than the diesel. Petrol

2.2 Diesel tax is €823 per year, whereas the petrol is €614. Petrol

Price of petrol at the pumps is usually about 10/11c more than diesel. Diesel - But the savings you make on the price of the car and the tax may balance out/outweigh the cost of the car.

Some say the diesel drinks more oil but I have no idea about that and I assume it wouldn't be much more than the petrol. To be honest I haven't noticed that my petrol model drinks a lot of oil at all, nothing I would be concerned about.

Everything else is standard for petrol and diesel, so I guess all that's left is to look at your budget and take a test drive of both. I preferred the petrol for its nippyness.

roosterman71 · 10-09-2009 6:04pm

funkyflea wrote: »

2.2 Diesel tax is €823 per year, whereas the petrol is €614. Petrol

How about on the new CO2 system?

bazz26 · 10-09-2009 7:51pm

roosterman71 wrote: »

How about on the new CO2 system?

Only applies to 2008 registered models and onwards. The 2.2 diesel would be around €300 afaik, the 2.0 litre petrol is alot more.

Thing is though that 2008/2009 old model petrol Accords are selling alot cheaper than similar 2.2 litre diesel models so the money you save on purchasing the petrol will outweight the savings on motor tax on the diesel unless you do alot of mileage where you can make it back at the pump.

Lex Luthor · 10-09-2009 8:41pm

if it was my choice and I wasn't doing galactic mileage, a Type S 2.0 Petrol in dark blue

fifth · 10-09-2009 8:52pm

The new omissions tax system won't effect you if you're buying 05/06 even 07. I say go for the petrol if you're buying pre-08.

IsItJustMeOr... · 16-09-2009 11:47pm

The Accord Diesel is a great car. I imported a '05 last year...
It has all the luxuries and comforts you want and it's a great, comfortable drive!
For a car like this with all the extras, it’s very hard to beat on price!

However, you do get screwed on tax for buying a pre ‘08.
The pre ‘08 Accord 2.2L (2204cc) diesel is now €860 PA to tax and if it's new, €302. It's bloody annoying to compare both!

The Accord can be expensive when it comes to servicing and or to replace genuine parts if the need arises.
Over the past year, I’d a few hiccups after I imported it but thankfully half of it was covered under the manufacturer’s warranty. The other half wasn’t that cheap though…
In saying that, I still would not deviate from my choice.

If you are looking for a second hand model, now is the time to buy as they've dropped significantly in price.

Also, I'd definitely recommend importing as you will still save a great deal more even by the time you pay (the very unjust) VRT.

Honda Accord- Am I mad????

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