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The next person from ROH to sign for the WWE is.....

  • 04-09-2009 3:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,238 ✭✭✭✭


    nd of a Chapter
    Friday, September 04, 2009

    Nigel McGuinness has agreed in principle to a contract with World Wrestling Entertainment.

    Nigel has been a tremendous leader in the Ring of Honor locker room and, without question, a wonderful performer. His merits, both in and out of the ring, are extraordinary and any locker room with Nigel McGuinness in it is better for it. We couldn’t be happier for Nigel as he takes the next step in his stellar wrestling career, and we extend our heartfelt gratitude to Nigel for all he’s worked for and through.

    Nigel has pledged to fulfill his scheduled Ring of Honor commitments. Please join us in Philadelphia, Boston, and New York as we bid an extremely fond farewell to another member of our family.

    Everyone at Ring of Honor is extremely proud to have called both Nigel McGuinness and Bryan Danielson their own; and we looking forward to seeing their stars shine brighter than ever. Like many of the wonderful sons of Ring of Honor that have written new chapters in their wrestling annals, we will look on with a bittersweet smile to the future where we have no doubt that Nigel and Bryan will amaze the masses – just like they’ve done so many times in Ring of Honor.

    With the closing of this chapter a new one opens in Ring of Honor. We now look to an exciting time where new stars will blaze their own paths, while looking back in reverence to those who came before them. Who will seize the opportunity and carry the torch for ROH? We only hope that whoever it is will carry it with the same respect - the same honor - that Bryan and Nigel have.
    http://www.rohwrestling.com/news/article.aspx?id=2969
    Chris Hero next Vince please..:D


Comments

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Awesome first Bryan Danielson and now Nigel McGuinness, ive seen less of his stuff than Danielson but just going on his reputation even WWE are really making some good moves atm and im sure this will please the Internet fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Awesome first Bryan Danielson and now Nigel McGuinness, ive seen less of his stuff than Danielson but just going on his reputation even WWE are really making some good moves atm and im sure this will please the Internet fans.

    Nigel is a complete and total arsehole in the ring. I can't wait to see what he does in WWE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Is ROH doomed? Both Nigel and Danielson are great signings for them and I'd imagine they both could do with the money but they're only as good signings as WWE make them.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Is ROH doomed?

    ill be honest, that was the first thing i thought off also as these have to be considerd two of the biggest names in ROH leaving and might make other top talent they have asses their options, but I hope it isnt the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    ill be honest, that was the first thing i thought off also as these have to be considerd two of the biggest names in ROH leaving and might make other top talent they have asses their options, but I hope it isnt the case.

    I don't give ROH more than a year more. They were struggling with Danielson and McGuinness but I can't see where they're going to go without them unless they can create new stars really, really quickly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    Good for him too :D

    He's a great wrestler and should do just fine in WWE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    Congratulations to Nigel. If anyone deserves the opportunity, it's him. It'll be worrying whether his body holds up on WWE's tougher schedule, though given that he won't be taking as brutal bumps, we can be hopeful.

    I'm actually pretty intrigued by ROH, and how they'll follow up. To most people who have followed the company, and watched the majority of their shows, the post-Gabe era has been tough. Bear in mind, that even with Nigel and Danielson on the roster, the bulk of mid-2008-mid-2009 has worn thin on most people. And in many cases, they weren't the guys "saving" or "making" the shows- but were in mid-card feuds, or disposable efforts. So i don't think their leaving signifies doom. But certainly, the fact remains that they need to establish some top talent as draws, and begin instigating some attractive storylines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭Shaneomac


    Another brit in wwe? Could be one too many imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    Burchill's release would be of no suprise to anyone though......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭Shaneomac


    Burchill's release would be of no suprise to anyone though......

    Good chance of that. Who else is there? DJ Gabriel, Drew McEntire, Regal, even Sheamus and Finley I suppose. Heard somewhere regal is planning on hanging up the boots sometime next year. Wouldnt have too much hope for Gabriel or Burchill. Interesting to see if MaGuinness can adapt does he have a decent personality? Hope Katie Lee hangs around though very different than your average diva in a good way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,197 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    End of a Chapter
    Friday, September 04, 2009

    Nigel McGuinness has agreed in principle to a contract with World Wrestling Entertainment.

    Nigel has been a tremendous leader in the Ring of Honor locker room and, without question, a wonderful performer. His merits, both in and out of the ring, are extraordinary and any locker room with Nigel McGuinness in it is better for it. We couldn’t be happier for Nigel as he takes the next step in his stellar wrestling career, and we extend our heartfelt gratitude to Nigel for all he’s worked for and through.

    Nigel has pledged to fulfill his scheduled Ring of Honor commitments. Please join us in Philadelphia, Boston, and New York as we bid an extremely fond farewell to another member of our family.

    Everyone at Ring of Honor is extremely proud to have called both Nigel McGuinness and Bryan Danielson their own; and we looking forward to seeing their stars shine brighter than ever. Like many of the wonderful sons of Ring of Honor that have written new chapters in their wrestling annals, we will look on with a bittersweet smile to the future where we have no doubt that Nigel and Bryan will amaze the masses – just like they’ve done so many times in Ring of Honor.

    With the closing of this chapter a new one opens in Ring of Honor. We now look to an exciting time where new stars will blaze their own paths, while looking back in reverence to those who came before them. Who will seize the opportunity and carry the torch for ROH? We only hope that whoever it is will carry it with the same respect - the same honor - that Bryan and Nigel have.

    Wow, that speech just trounces all over the usual "We wish them well in all their future endevours" that Vince normally throws out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    Shaneomac wrote: »
    Good chance of that. Who else is there? DJ Gabriel, Drew McEntire, Regal, even Sheamus and Finley I suppose. Heard somewhere regal is planning on hanging up the boots sometime next year. Wouldnt have too much hope for Gabriel or Burchill. Interesting to see if MaGuinness can adapt does he have a decent personality? Hope Katie Lee hangs around though very different than your average diva in a good way.

    No.

    Fair play to Nigel anyway, he's some talent in fairness to him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭Shaneomac


    Gerard.C wrote: »
    No.

    Fair play to Nigel anyway, he's some talent in fairness to him

    Finleys as british as they come mate. Hes born in Belfast just in case you didnt know;)

    And Sheamus although hes as Irish as they come, he could probably be boxed into that category by the booking. Look at the way asian wrestlers have been portrayed and handled over the years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    Im beginning to think Vince has gotten a sudden rush of blood to the head or something, cant explain such excellent signings any other way

    Shin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,403 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Shaneomac wrote: »
    Finleys as british as they come mate. Hes born in Belfast just in case you didnt know;)

    And Sheamus although hes as Irish as they come, he could probably be boxed into that category by the booking. Look at the way asian wrestlers have been portrayed and handled over the years.

    the mcmahons have irish blood, they would never package an irish wrestler as british :eek:

    btw northern ireland isn't britain, its the uk and finlay after all does come out to irish music, wears green has a shamrock on his trunks, carries a Shelaylee and was once accompanied by a leprechaun


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Why would him being a brit matter?

    Do WWE have to many canadians?

    Great news for Nigel. WWE should start subsidising ROH. Send dome FCW guys out to learn in ROH.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    El Generico and Steen next hopefully but I have been told Roddy Strong is a possibly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 NeilFrenzy4Ever


    I hope Vince signs Gabe and makes him Raw GM, only to make him join the Kiss My Ass club later in the show. The internet would implode


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    shinzon wrote: »
    Im beginning to think Vince has gotten a sudden rush of blood to the head or something, cant explain such excellent signings any other way

    Shin

    He's threatened by ROH's move to Monday nights

    Meltzer said that there's likely to be more, and it's the guys who you'd expect. I think Strong would be too small for them. The Briscoes would be more likely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,238 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    So did the reliable Pw Insider as well.
    To think a tag team of Danielson and Kendrick would have been awesome. :(

    http://www.pwinsider.com/article/41205/update-on-wwe-interests-in-ring-of-honor-talent.html?p=1
    UPDATE ON WWE INTERESTS IN RING OF HONOR TALENT
    As we first reported several weeks ago in the Elite section of PWInsider.com, Ring of Honor moving their HDNet series to Monday Nights captured the attention of World Wrestling Entertainment, sparking the decision to begin closely watching the promotion and signing talent.
    Since that time, Bryan Danielson (who has been the MVP and face of ROH from day one) and Nigel McGuinness (who may be the most deserving talent to be signed by WWE in the last decade, Danielson included, based on the level of work and the amount of damage he did to himself during the course of his ROH title reign) agreed in principle to deals with World Wrestling Entertainment.

    In the case of Danielson, there was interest in him several months back by WWE and one creative plan was to debut him as Bryan Kendrick's "perfect partner" (if you remember that shelved storyline) but once Kendrick ended up on the chopping block, that idea was iced. Danielson opted not to sign a new ROH deal this past Spring, at which point the decision was made to de-emphasize him in storylines and use him to prepare the next level of talent, particularly Tyler Black.

    In the case of McGuinness, WWE was aware of him and in the past, once instructed Ohio Valley Wrestling to stop using him on their TV because he wasn't a contracted talent but had never made a strong push to sign him, although there were times talent, including William Regal, had suggested him. The irony is that in the past, TNA had strong interest in McGuinness and when he wasn't available to them, they instead signed Doug Williams, who went unused for a long time before the British Invasion stable was launched. TNA had begun tossing McGuinness' name around internally in the last month, only to see WWE sign him.

    Now, as far as whether this ends WWE's interest in ROH talent, I can confirm that is absolutely not the case. Members of WWE creative have been told to watch the ROH TV product and come up with ideas for talents they feel would be "WWE-worthy" (the term used to me) performers.

    In my initial report on my Hotline, I mentioned there were 3-5 names being discussed. In the last week, there were three other names who WWE had at least taken a mild interest in beyond McGuinness and Danielson. Now, that doesn't mean they are going to absolutely sign anyone else, but I know there's interest.

    Some ROH talents are under long-term contracts. Others, including one who claimed to me on Thursday that he had the option to give ROH thirty days notice in order to be released, may not be. So, it's going to be interesting to see how the story develops and whether any other talent signs.

    It's also going to be interesting to see if ROH can develop a new crew of talent to replace the established names that choose to depart, like Danielson and Nigel. In the last ten months, the American Wolves have picked up a ton of momentum, but ROH's battle will be similar to ECW's in the mid-1990s in that they need to be a "teflon" company, not showing the signs of loss while getting new talents over to an audience that deeply loved the departed names.

    As of September 26th in New York City, a new chapter truly begins for Ring of Honor.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Interesting to see what they will do with him. Another big loss for ROH. Nigel is a great great worker, stiff as anything. He will need to tone his style alot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,403 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    gimmick wrote: »
    He will need to tone his style alot.

    he will or someone like taker will have a word or two

    probably a good thing anyway, hasn't he a torn bicep atm :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    probably a good thing anyway, hasn't he a torn bicep atm :confused:

    He did, I think he might have already come back though. He literally Lariet'ed people so damn hard that he destroyed his own arms, I doubt WWE would approve of such things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,403 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    He did, I think he might have already come back though. He literally Lariet'ed people so damn hard that he destroyed his own arms, I doubt WWE would approve of such things.

    i saw him a few times here in ireland with iww and he definitely toned down his style a bit during those matches though he did nearly kill bam katraz (i think it was him anyway) in one match with a lariat

    seeing as JBL is now gone he will probably be allowed use one strong lariat a match


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    i saw him a few times here in ireland with iww and he definitely toned down his style a bit during those matches though he did nearly kill bam katraz (i think it was him anyway) in one match with a lariat

    There was one match I saw Nigel wrestling for IWW, and the one thing i thought, was that it was exactly the sort of bout he could have in the WWE and totally get over doing so.

    I guess we'll see. Nigel's a smart guy- it won't be difficult for him to remove the more dangerous aspects of his game, and focus on his other selling points.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    Nigel McGuinness spoke with The UK's Sun about his status with WWE:
    "I am not 100 percent on board yet. I still have to cross some I's and dot some T's but it's looking positive. It's been a long time coming for sure. Ten years since I first took a bump and about eighteen since that fateful day I sat in Wembley Stadium [at SummerSlam 1992] and said I was one day going be a pro-wrestler. Still, like I said, I don't want to tempt fate until it's all signed sealed and delivered."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    I can't think of anyone who deserves this shot as much as Nigel. Whether its the sheer torture he has put his body through to get to the top of the indy scene (including multilpe concussions and wrestling with BOTH biceps badly torn) or the unreal improvements that he has undergone in both his ring work and charisma in the last 5 years, hes has certainly proven his passion and love for the business. Like Punk he has that intangible "it" factor that could take him all the way to the top. Good luck to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,238 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    http://pwinsider.com/article/41276/danielson-and-mcguinness-to-face-off-in-their-roh-farewell-in-nyc-tyler-black-injury-update-and-more-roh-news.html?p=1
    Tyler Black hasn't been medically cleared to wrestle yet following his neck surgery, so he'll be missing the 9/10 and 9/11 ROH on HD Net television tapings in Philadelphia, PA. ROH was aware this might be a possibility, so they weren't caught off-guard. Colt Cabana will replace Black against Nigel McGuinness on Thursday. No word who will replace him against Kenny King on Friday. Black is now slated to return next week in Dayton and Chicago.

    Ring of Honor also announced that on their final night in the company, the 9/26 Glory by Honor event in New York City, Bryan Danielson and Nigel McGuinness will now face each other. This actually makes sense as you don't want one farewell to overshadow the other and since they are both leaving the storylines, it's smarter for the company to give fans one last rematch of their classic bouts while moving forward with the rest of the crew. When I learned this morning the change might be a possibility, I immediately thought of the farewell Eddie Guerrero and Dean Malenko received from ECW fans in August 1995. If the emotion on 9/26 is even half as much, it's going to be an amazing, special moment.

    The planned McGuinness vs. Roderick Strong bout for 9/26 has been bumped up one day to 9/25 in Boston, MA.

    Austin Aries will still be defending the ROH title on 9/26 but his opponent hasn't been announced yet. Since ROH has been doing the Aries defends against "a name pulled out of a hat" gimmick, I wonder if they will do that here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    There's alot of 'tards on the ROH forum whinging about this change. I can't for a second fathom where they're coming from. This is the most appropriate way for both guys to recieve their send off. Instead of compromising the send offs for both guys, they'll have a grand one for all.

    Plus, Aries can defend the title elsewhere, or make an appearance or something. The card has a Ladder match on it for freak's sake! I saw a few moans about how Dragon choosing to face Nigel over Aries, devalues the belt. C'mon! Who's gonna percieve the belt differently? The folks in the building who get a fantastic show? The people who buy the DVD because it's awesome? There is no wider fan-base for ROH- only Smart fans- and they're too inside for a booking decision to kayfabe devalue a strap.

    Nigel/Dragon is the best way possible for both guys to bow out.

    There's no pleasing some of those folk.


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