Hypnotherapy for tinnitus and very bad depression.?

joseph brand

Anyone know a hypnotherapist in Dublin to help with this??
Not for myself.
Kinda urgent.

Thanks,

Kev.

Pls Pm me if possible.

Gibs

Hypnotherapy is not a legitimate, evidence-based treatment for either tinnitus or severe depression.

Tell your friend to see their GP, an otolaryngologist, a psychiatrist, a psychologist or anyone similar whose practice is based on demonstrably legitimate, evidence-based, scientifically predicated, well-researched, effective, treatment approaches. Beware of quacks.

Torakx

i dont have any contacts but would appreciate hearing if the treatment worked.i may then try it myself.

i have pretty bad tinnitus and find i can ignore it sometimes.
it is not possible for me to ignore it in a quiet enviornment i need music tv ussually to not hear it.

but i really feel for whoever you are trying to help.

hotspur

Hypnotherapy can certainly help with people's experiencing of tinnitus. If you don't understand why that would be the case Gibs then you don't understand the utility of hypnotherapy.

As for depression, hypnotherapy can be effective as a tool in the treatment of it, look to the work of Michael Yapko. However visiting a lay hypnotherapist in Ireland would not be appropriate for it, and they should be ethically obliged to refuse treatment by their association's code of ethics for seriously depressed individuals.

A lay hypnotherapist is usually only capable of providing hypnotherapy on its own which would not be effective in ameliorating depression.

So by all means see a hypnotherapist for tinnitus, but go to a mental health professional for depression. As to who to go to, hypnotherapy is pretty basic stuff, just google for them in your area and make sure the one you choose at least has registration with the IHA or ICHP.

JuliusCaesar

hotspur wrote: »

Hypnotherapy can certainly help with people's experiencing of tinnitus. If you don't understand why that would be the case Gibs then you don't understand the utility of hypnotherapy.

Here's your answer:

Gibs wrote: »

Hypnotherapy is not a legitimate, evidence-based treatment for either tinnitus or severe depression. . Beware of quacks.

hotspur wrote: »

As for depression, hypnotherapy can be effective as a tool in the treatment of it, look to the work of Michael Yapko. However visiting a lay hypnotherapist in Ireland would not be appropriate for it, and they should be ethically obliged to refuse treatment by their association's code of ethics for seriously depressed individuals.

............... hypnotherapy is pretty basic stuff, just google for them in your area and make sure the one you choose at least has registration with the IHA or ICHP.

There are a number of problematic statements here. Treatment of depression is ruled out by ethics, but treatment of tinnitus isn't??

Hypnotherapy is "pretty basic stuff"; why then does it have ethics? Why even a training?

As for reputable registering organisations, I'd be inclined to go for the British Society of Clinical and Academic Hypnosis, whose member have a professional qualification in a health field.

Torakx

i would have to agree hypnosis should not be taken lightly.
accessing the subconcious mind and making even small suggestions by mistake could cause trouble down the road.

i found i can use mind over matter and have coped with this very loud high pitched BEEEEEEEEPPP! 24/7 i would love to remember what silence felt like but hypnosis would be a very very big step for me to take.

hotspur

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

There are a number of problematic statements here. Treatment of depression is ruled out by ethics, but treatment of tinnitus isn't??

Yes because treatment of depression is not focused on on ways to better handle the phenomenological experience of depression, it is focused on ameliorating it. Now anybody with tinnitus should go to the doctor first and see if medical treatment can remedy it. Often it doesn't.

It is something which many people can handle, like floaters in one's eyes, but some people are too sensitive and cannot unattend to it. This is why hypnotherapy can help as it is very good at directing attention.

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

Hypnotherapy is "pretty basic stuff"; why then does it have ethics? Why even a training?

What hypnotherapy does it does quite well, the main point of the ethics is about professional competence limits. Almost all hypnotherapists in Ireland are lay hypnotherapists. That doesn't mean that they cannot help with a range of issues but it is not for any serious psychological problems.

I call it basic stuff from a psychologist's point of view, but it certainly requires training to do it properly. Hypnotherapy has become very big within the mainstream mental health profession in many countries over the past few years, especially America, nut not in Ireland. It doesn't deserve to be dismissed as quackery because it isn't.

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

As for reputable registering organisations, I'd be inclined to go for the British Society of Clinical and Academic Hypnosis, whose member have a professional qualification in a health field.

Where do you live? Because I'm pretty sure the op is from Ireland and finding hypnotherapists registered with them is difficult and unnecessary. You don't need a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist to help you to quit smoking with hypnotherapy. As long as lay hypnotherapists have a code of ethics which they stick to in respect of their professional competence and the limits of it I have no problem with them.

I would have had the same prejudices and attitude of professional superiority before I actually trained in it and took the time to study the field academically. I was wrong. It is a useful tool for trained professionals in the mental health field, and a useful service for a range of limited applications with lay hypnotherapists.

JuliusCaesar

hotspur wrote: »

Where do you live? Because I'm pretty sure the op is from Ireland and finding hypnotherapists registered with them is difficult and unnecessary. You don't need a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist to help you to quit smoking with hypnotherapy. As long as lay hypnotherapists have a code of ethics which they stick to in respect of their professional competence and the limits of it I have no problem with them.

I would have had the same prejudices and attitude of professional superiority before I actually trained in it and took the time to study the field academically. I was wrong. It is a useful tool for trained professionals in the mental health field, and a useful service for a range of limited applications with lay hypnotherapists.

I'm in Ireland; psychologist; have been trained in hypnosis; and have used it as an adjunctive treatment.

Many Irish people belong to our next door neighbours' professional associations eg BPS* because there are too few of us here to have a worthwhile society. Also because NI is British! So it can be useful to look at British prof associations especially for small specialities - and those are often the ones in which it is difficult to check out a person's qualifications and experience.

*No insult to the PSI intended here! Just saying the BPS has much greater resources due to its numbers and so eg their magazine is much more interesting and colourful.

Latchy

Torakx wrote: »

i found i can use mind over matter and have coped with this very loud high pitched BEEEEEEEEPPP! 24/7 i would love to remember what silence felt like but hypnosis would be a very very big step for me to take.

Hear Hear ( excuse the pun ) I have suffered with Tinnitus for many years now and each individual will have to learn to cope as best he /she can ie, build up their own tolerance to cope with it it .The thing from my own expierence with Tinnitus is that when you say to some people you have it ,they react indifferntly, as if you just have a head cold or something and only people who have to live with it know exactly what suffering with it involves . The key for me in learning to cope has being to divert my attention away from the high pitched noise either though listeing to music, or loosing myself in a good book / magazine .I have to say I have good days as well as bad and some days forget I have it at all .The brain can learn to sometimes ' make you forget you have it ' .

Torakx

also i found if i learn to not associate that sound with hate but instead try ad accept it or like it in a way it convinces you it isnt bad and helped me fight depression during the times i couldnt ignore it.

DublinWriter

Have it myself after a really bad ear infection seven years ago.

Horrible to the extent that it made me lose total interest in my life-long love of music (both playing and listening - I'd been a semi-pro drummer).

Depending on the type of Tinnitus you have, there are devices out there that can block it by externally producing the same frequency of noise you hear, but in inverse-phase, so it blocks out your Tinnitus either partially or totally. Google around for it.

Another trick is to listen to an MP3 of sea-noises when you trying to get to sleep using your MP3 player.

Latchy

DublinWriter wrote: »

Another trick is to listen to an MP3 of sea-noises when you trying to get to sleep using your MP3 player.

That has being known to work yes and also diet can have an affect on how severe your Tinnitus can be .In my case , coffee ,chocolate, salted nuts and spirits are best avoided or cut down on unless I later want a dose of ' High pitched Tinnitus ' .

Torakx

aw yeah for sure a good diet helps.
i notice when smoking or having too much tea it rings louder.

evolving_doors

Im sure there must be some distraction techniques that can be worthwhile...(radio on, as often as possible for me)...If you do get any relief after trying hypnosis then please let us know..ta..
Here's my triggers....
salt/caffene/stress/dairy products=bad
loads of chillies/garlic=good

Have a look at the Irish Tinnitus Assoc website for more tips..
http://www.iol.ie/~nad/Tinnitus.html