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miss the morning!

  • 04-09-2009 3:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Hellooo, this seems a simple, stupid problem compared to other posts but id love some
    help anywho! I keep sleeping in to 3/4pm n i miss the morning! And there's nothing to do cos everywhere closes so I wanna get up early! I set my alarm for 1pm but when i woke at 4 my phone was across the room! I dont rememrber throwing it at all! Happened a few times so my alarm doesnt work-ahh how do i force myself to get up, i dont want to be a lazy person or come across as one. I just need 7/8 hours sleep n i cant sleep until 5/6am.
    Do i hav insomnia?? My mind wont shut up as soon as it hits the pillow! BLablabla it goes!
    How does one reset their sleeping pattern when its oppositized itself?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    Set your alarm for 8 am, get up and get washed, then go out and help at your local Senior Citizens' centre/hospital, whatever (I'm assuming you don't have a job).
    Join the human race and contribute something, then you'll fall into a lovely sleep when your head hits the pillow at night :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    My answer would be 'how do i join the aul human race when im asleep? 8am? Dont you think ive tried!? I need a better alarm clock!' But I dont need to say that cos look its 11.00am! Im up-yaaaaay! Been up since 9am, its a miracle! Im so happy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭Piglet85


    I don't think you're an insomniac, your body clock is just messed up. If you can sleep straight through for eight hours then it's not that you can't sleep, you've just let yourself get into a really bad routine. I used to be this way for a while in my teens, and I thought I had sleep problems too, but eventually I realised that I could change it if I wanted to. My little brother is just like you (when he's off school), but during term time he is forced to get up at 7am, and so he falls asleep at a normal time.

    The only way around this is to change your routine, and the first few days or week of it you will feel like crap, but if you really want to do it you have to persevere. Set your alarm for early one morning (if you can't trust yourself to wake up, set more than one, or get someone to physically wake you/phone you), and GET UP, no matter how tired you feel. Repeat this for a few days and your sleep pattern will adjust, you'll feel tired earlier and start getting your eight hours at a normal time. Also, don't go on the net in the middle of the night, and make sure you're not on it for an hour or so before you try to sleep, because that will make you're mind race and fool you into thinking that you're not able to fall asleep, when really that's the reason for it. So do those things and you should be able to get back into routine. That's all there is to it really!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    An important thing to do is to avoid caffeine in the afternoons evenings. Maybe give it up altogether for a while. If I drink coffee in the evening I will not sleep for hours that night.
    many people hav a habit of drinking a lot of cola or tea or coffee quite late in the day without realising the effect it might be having on their sleep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭MelonieHead


    Nevermind setting the alarm, I'm sure you've done that and, as you've found, it's no guarantee you'll actually get up. Instead enlist the help of a friend. Get them to ring you at a time you feel comfortable with; 8am, 9am, whatever. Ask them to ring you until you answer. Then to ring you again after 20 minutes or so to make sure you haven't just gone back to sleep!

    Do you have a friend who can do this? It could mean ringing you two or three times until you first answer (or more!) and then remembering to ring you again soon after.

    Once you've done that, maybe a couple of days in a row if necessary, you should find it easier to get yourself into a routine. It will then take a bit of dicipline to remain in a good routine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Get a number of alarm clocks, the old fashioned ones with the clanging bells are best. Set one for 9am, one for 9.05, one for 9.10, etc. Place them in different areas around your bedroom so you have to get up to switch them off. Once you are fully awake get up. Have a decent breakfast and then go out, take a walk or a run, go to the gym, whatever, but make sure that you do something physical which makes your body tired. Eat well throughout the day and stay as active as possible. Go to bed at 11.30pm with a book and a mug of warm milk or a herbal tea which aids sleep, after resetting your alarms. Lights out by 12.30pm. Get a hops and lavender pillow, which is a natural sleep aid.

    It will take you a few days/weeks to reset your body clock and get into a decent routine, so prepare to be tired while you re-train yourself. As others have said avoid caffeine, if you must have coffee restrict yourself to none after 1pm. Be strict with yourself and you will be fine after a few weeks, I've been where you are before and it's tough once you get into bad habits, but it's not impossible to change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭R.D. aka MR.D


    This sometimes happens to me.

    What i normally do to get back into a proper schedule is to not sleep for a night. keep yourself awake, don't use coffee or anything. go out for walks or whatever and then eventually go to sleep at 11 or 12 the next night and set your alarm for 10 or 11 or whenever you like. maybe set two or three!

    I'm sure its terrible for your health but it works for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I'm in sort of the same boat now as I'm off sick from work so I have no sleep routine, sometimes I stay up until 3am watching tv or cant sleep due to being in pain and being uncomfortable, wake up at 1 or 2pm the next day, but other mornings I wake up at 5 or 6 and cant go back to sleep so the next night sleep in again , setting two alarms works, I have one on my phone and a clock but they're on opposite sides of the rooms and far enough where I have to get out of bed to shut them off, works for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭Firetrap


    Those hours you're keeping are terrible. You would be far better off getting up around 9 or 10am in the morning. That way at least you have civilized hours for doing things. You need to start going to bed at a reasonable time - say 11 or 12 at night but definitely not 2 or 3am.

    The advice about having a few different alarms around the room in places you can't reach from the bed is a good one and something I've done myself. The louder and more annoying the alarms the better.


    Perhaps too you might need to take a closer look at what you're eating/drinking/doing before bedtime. Caffeine can wreck your sleep. It might not be good to be playing computer games or on the internet or watching a DVD right before you hit the hay either. Wind down with something more sedate like a book and a cup of hot milk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Jack B. Badd


    Out of curiosity, OP, how old are you? There have been studies that suggest that teenagers' rhythms are different to that of younger children and adults, resulting in lower productivity early in the morning in comparison to later in the day and night.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭mormank


    This sometimes happens to me.

    What i normally do to get back into a proper schedule is to not sleep for a night. keep yourself awake, don't use coffee or anything. go out for walks or whatever and then eventually go to sleep at 11 or 12 the next night and set your alarm for 10 or 11 or whenever you like. maybe set two or three!

    I'm sure its terrible for your health but it works for me!

    i was just gonna post the exact same thing almost...the only way it works for me too. also if you do get back into a regular routine you need to be very vigilent in trying to keep it that way. it is the easiest thing in the world to slip back into your old routine, trust me on that one!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    K i am not allowed near the laptop at night anymore, tomorrow im going to pick up those big alarm clocks with the clangy bells!Im actually looking forward to placing them around my room cos this is just not on! Im 20 so i dont think its to do with adolescence? I was out drinking last night so i think the alcohol is what woke me early if i hadnt drank i would have woke up at 3 guaranteed. Not looking forward to being tired n crappy i know it has to be done but today i was soooo groggy! And i kept wanting to close my eyes, disasterous if Id a job!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 newbie2009


    I had a nephew with a similar problem and he got a job working nights in a club, suited him fine. Otherwise guess the above advice would suffice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    hey OP i have the same problem! can you let us know if anything works? i always sleep through my alarm and then miss the whole day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭thefeatheredcat


    There's a good few things I've tried myself which have helped as I'm rewiring my sleeping pattern.

    You could go for a walk somewhere you really enjoy and makes you happy and relaxed around late afternoon as this will start to make you relax.

    If you have other people living with you, get up at the same time as them. This will help establish a routine for you.

    Once you're up, get yourself going, get out and about. I guarantee the earlier you get up and you'll find you have loads more time and ability to do things, you're feel a lot better, you'll be doing more. You'll be more relaxed too.

    If you have a lot on your mind or a particular issue is bothering you, sit comfortably with your keyboard and type a few pages of conscious thought. The less worries and stress you have, the better you will sleep.

    Avoid any caffeine and sugar stimulants, smoking, drinking, late snacks and sugary things.

    Gradually let your body back to its natural state and you'll find a better way of sleeping.

    hth :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hiya. Im still missing the morning, getting up around 12pm which seems early to me compared with 3/4pm. It was sh_t getting up then cos i found with whatever i was doing i was in a rush getting ready n then if i was in town v little time to do things cos most places closed.
    But hell of an improvement from just not going on the computer at night, avoiding caffeine, and generally just doing something relaxing before i hit the hay. I never got those alarm clocks tho! It was a great idea but now im thinkin ill just get up go round to where they are turn them all off n just go back to bed! If Im tired ill sleep simply, so im finding just gradually going to bed earlier n earlier(even if ill be awake n bored) means im more refreshed the next day n less likely to ignore my alarm or put it on snooze. Working for me at least. Hoping by next week ill be getting up at 9am!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 483 ✭✭9wetfckx43j5rg


    Hey there. This always happens to me when I am off school.

    No matter how hard I try I can't get up earlier every day. So now if it happens I just go forward, and go to sleep later and later every day until im sleeping tru the night again.

    Like I have to be up at 8am on Thursday morning. On Tues night I woke up at 7pm. Stayed up all night now and am going to get a nap around 10 am then stay up all day and try and see if i can fall asleep that evening/night.


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