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Astral Travel
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03-09-2009 10:34pm#1
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Hi Torakx
Seen your post on CT so thought I would come on over and reply here
I have partaken in this pratice of OBE in the past, it took an awful long time and a lot of practice. I cannot provide proof now, really I don't know how you could other than maybe under test conditions, writing notes on bits of paper and leaving them in area's which would normally be inaccessible then getting the person experiencing the OBE to memorise the contents while in that state and reciting them when back in their normal state ?
Anyway, my first experiences of this where to do with sleep paralysis, albeit when I was fully awake, not asleep and around the age of maybe 18/19. When I was learning myself how to programme in ASM language and erm, defeating encryption methods - I would stay awake for days/nights on end. One night I sat down on the sofa just to give myself a break and my body somehow went to sleep but my eye's and mind were still fully awake.
I would get this humming or just strong/weird feeling around the back of my ears and sometimes within my ears also (if that makes sense at all).
It also is freightening in that you cannot move or do anything other than look around and you get this terrible feeling that someone is watching over you and you are not able to do anything about it.
From that I started to read up on it a lot, both on the web back then (which was terrible, none of the info available then that you can find now) and through old books in libraries.
I started to practice lucid dreaming, it's a state where you are dreaming but you also understand and realise you are dreaming and so you aim to control the content within the dream without waking up. It's hard to explain but the best feeling you get from it is the feeling of flying if you can manage it
From there I practiced a form of meditation where you would try and relax every single muscle in your body, control your breathing and put yourself in an advanced state of relaxation where your body was completely numb and devoid of any feeling but your mind was still fully aware. You also had to make sure you didn't fall asleep during this as it defeated the purpose.
It took an awful lot of practice and it took a long time to stop getting yourself excited when you started the early phases of making your body numb and feeling the different state of mind (only way to explain this bit sorry). If you got excited (excited meaning to me anyway that I was thinking to myself, omfg this is actually working) you'd break out of the "state of mind" and you'd move a muscle in some way. This is very hard to explain
My first actual experience of my soul/spirit/whatever leaving my body was during one of these practice sessions, all I can describe it as was my soul lifting itself out of my body ? Like I just began to sit up out of my body. I remember looking at my left arm and noticing it was green in colour with patchy red or black parts on it. I know this just sounds weird but bare with me....
Your soul from what I could see or hope to explain looks kind of see through and seemed to be devoid of any muscular form, like my arm was long and straight, nowhere near looking like humonoid at all.
I remember thinking well, if this is it I want to see how far I can get away from my body (apparently from my reading it takes long long practice before you can actually travel very far away from your body) so I remember floating, not flying, just kind of floating up toward the ceiling and into the attic. Now everything was dark but one big thing I noticed was that my hearing seemed to be very acute and even the sleightest noises I could hear. I remember travelling a bit toward the back of the attic and a little outside my window and that was it, I snapped out of it and jumped up off the bed.
My whole body seemed to be pulsing like some drug or whatever was racing through my blood, not like adrenallin, my whole body was buzzing but it was kind of like a stronger feeling you get from your body when you break out of a sleep paralysis sometimes.
I still practice lucid dreaming when I notice the state and can be arsed sleep paralysis sometimes happens me still also, while I am actually asleep though, like my mind wakes up but I can't move and I feel as if someone or some thing is watching or standing over or behind me.
Now, I'm not religious in any way whatsoever, I really am not but would regard this as a kind of spiritualism. Scientifically, it could just well be a state of mind or an ability of your brain to carry out these states of mind, somewhat like a drug induced halucination maybe and it becomes so real to you that you actually believe it ? I really don't know but it is both amazing and freightening at the same time.
I don't or just can't seem to find the time these days to put any more practice in to it at all but I wouldn't mind giving it a go again sometime.
I've read that Yuri Gellar was supposed to be able to do this in an advanced state as was Padre Pio, in one case I read of him (Padre Pio) appearing in clouds in front of a nazi bomber squadron and asking them to turn back and not to bomb their town of Giovanni or something.
Hope that helps some and just to state, I would be more inclined to believe or take a scientific explanation for this rather than anything supernatural or otherwise. It is however, when you do experience it, quiet amazing but also scary.
Oh, one thing I remember if it's of any help, when I was putting myself into this state it helped if I had nothing at all over my feet for some reason, as in if you have a blanket duvet over you, stick your feat out the end. I dunno why but that always helped me.0 -
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