irish armey. [HELP)

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 · 03-09-2009 8:55pm #1

hello

i wuz jus wundern bout da irish army. ireland is apart of da eu so y duz it hav such a bad army? it hs no plane's r tank's r nefins so if a enemy country invadid dey cud not defend it. y is da army so bad??? i herd its vry easy to get in cumpard to other army's n dat dey r not wel traindat al. my cusin who is in da english army (best of da world) say's that every1 in iraq/afkanistan laff's bot da irish army cuz dey r so bad. y dsnt da goverment do sumfin bout da army? nd y dsnt irish army help out in iraq at al wen dey shud?

Latchy · 03-09-2009 8:57pm

Suppose somebody has to say it OP, your grammer is appalling .

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 · 03-09-2009 8:59pm

hehe ye, sry fr da bad english i am dyslexic

Irish_Army01 · 03-09-2009 9:00pm

I would firstly repost your post in proper English..You then might get an answer to your queries.

itsonlywords · 03-09-2009 9:00pm

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 wrote: »

hello

i wuz jus wundern bout da irish army. ireland is apart of da eu so y duz it hav such a bad army? it hs no plane's r tank's r nefins so if a enemy country invadid dey cud not defend it. y is da army so bad??? i herd its vry easy to get in cumpard to other army's n dat dey r not wel traindat al. my cusin who is in da english army (best of da world) say's that every1 in iraq/afkanistan laff's bot da irish army cuz dey r so bad. y dsnt da goverment do sumfin bout da army? nd y dsnt irish army help out in iraq at al wen dey shud?

If I can get what you wrote translated into English, I will reply

itsonlywords · 03-09-2009 9:02pm

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 wrote: »

hello

i wuz jus wundern bout da irish army. ireland is apart of da eu so y duz it hav such a bad army? it hs no plane's r tank's r nefins so if a enemy country invadid dey cud not defend it. y is da army so bad??? i herd its vry easy to get in cumpard to other army's n dat dey r not wel traindat al. my cusin who is in da english army (best of da world) say's that every1 in iraq/afkanistan laff's bot da irish army cuz dey r so bad. y dsnt da goverment do sumfin bout da army? nd y dsnt irish army help out in iraq at al wen dey shud?

Actually now that I could decipher some of what you wrote, I could suggest that your education is adaquete to get you into the"english army" as you called it. Probably be the Pioneer Corps as that Corps in the Brits are usually illiterate and so you will fit in well.

Irish_Army01 · 03-09-2009 9:03pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgakk0ZfaGY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU-bq5eQT1s&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VthnZznhG8g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnklmmYkJjU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0xjXkIcSi0&feature=related

By the Way............................MANCHESTER UNITED 2- ARSENIL 1:-)

helimachoptor · 03-09-2009 9:05pm

Go to school

a-k-47 · 03-09-2009 9:07pm

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 wrote: »

hello

i wuz jus wundern bout da irish army. ireland is apart of da eu so y duz it hav such a bad army? it hs no plane's r tank's r nefins so if a enemy country invadid dey cud not defend it. y is da army so bad??? i herd its vry easy to get in cumpard to other army's n dat dey r not wel traindat al. my cusin who is in da english army (best of da world) say's that every1 in iraq/afkanistan laff's bot da irish army cuz dey r so bad. y dsnt da goverment do sumfin bout da army? nd y dsnt irish army help out in iraq at al wen dey shud?

text speak is so tilting. Lame troll. gl

itsonlywords · 03-09-2009 9:07pm

helimachoptor wrote: »

Go to school

He would do well with the Brits

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 · 03-09-2009 9:11pm

ye well done m8, u showd some clips of some army. doin some stuff and shooty gun, propably dunn inside a TV studio like to show it and meke da army luk sick. lol, my cussin was rite about how ur army. England is not even more as good to you. thanks?

no way ur even cumpairing to us roffie

GalwayKiefer · 03-09-2009 9:12pm

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 wrote: »

i wuz jus wundern bout da irish army. ireland is apart of da eu so y duz it hav such a bad army? it hs no plane's r tank's r nefins so if a enemy country invadid dey cud not defend it. y is da army so bad??? i herd its vry easy to get in cumpard to other army's n dat dey r not wel traindat al. my cusin who is in da english army (best of da world) say's that every1 in iraq/afkanistan laff's bot da irish army cuz dey r so bad. y dsnt da goverment do sumfin bout da army? nd y dsnt irish army help out in iraq at al wen dey shud?

Reading/deciphering that gave me a bloody headache...

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 · 03-09-2009 9:12pm

**** of im dyslecxic, dont make fun,,.

itsonlywords · 03-09-2009 9:13pm

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 wrote: »

**** of im dyslecxic, dont make fun,,.

That what you call it?

:D:D:D

Mark_ · 03-09-2009 9:14pm

itsonlywords wrote: »

That what you call it?
:D:D:D

He clearly is so theres no need to make light stabs about it is there?

dog_pig · 03-09-2009 9:15pm

a-k-47 wrote: »

text speak is so tilting. Lame troll. gl

He said he was dyslexic?

From that I get:

I was just wondering about the Irish army. Ireland is part of the EU so why does it have such a bad army? It has no planes or tanks or anything so if an enemy country invaded they could not defend it. Why is the army so bad? I heard it's very easy to get in compared to other armies and that they are not well trained at all. My cousin who's in the English army (best in the world) says that everyone in Iraq/Afghanistan laughs about the Irish army because they are so bad. Why doesn't the government do something about the army? And why doesn't the Irish army help out in Iraq at all when they should?

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 · 03-09-2009 9:15pm

ye lol, so can u annsr sum qs about da army den or not? its onl 2 help wiv skool n that, for sum summer essay to do ovr summer ye

thanks men

GalwayKiefer · 03-09-2009 9:15pm

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 wrote: »

**** of im dyslecxic, dont make fun,,.

Uh-huh.... Read this so -llorT

Irish_polizei · 03-09-2009 9:16pm

Lads, ye are just as bad yourselves if you cant read that, ye are going a bit over the top with it,lol but what he tried to say was " I was just wondering about the Irish army, If Ireland is a member of the EU, why have we such a badly equipped army, the Irish army has no planes(the Irish aer corp do) or tanks or anything, so if an enemy force were to invade(never goin to happen, after all we are a neutral country) they could not defend this country! Why is the army so bad? The man under that gives me sweeties out of his car tells me that it is not hard to get a position as an army operative and that they are not trained very well compared to other countrys forces. My cousin who is in the British army says that every single person in Iraq/Afghanistan laugh at the Irish army because they are so bad ( the infidels probably never heard of Ireland so thats aload of ****e) Why doesnt the Irish government do anything about this and why doesnt Irish army help out in Iraq when they should (because the Irish government is paying to much on people who are on the dole who should be elsewhere lets put it)

Irish_polizei · 03-09-2009 9:18pm

Irish_polizei wrote: »

Lads, ye are just as bad yourselves if you cant read that, ye are going a bit over the top with it,lol but what he tried to say was " I was just wondering about the Irish army, If Ireland is a member of the EU, why have we such a badly equipped army, the Irish army has no planes(the Irish aer corp do) or tanks or anything, so if an enemy force were to invade(never goin to happen, after all we are a neutral country) they could not defend this country! Why is the army so bad? The man under that gives me sweeties out of his car tells me that it is not hard to get a position as an army operative and that they are not trained very well compared to other countrys forces. My cousin who is in the British army says that every single person in Iraq/Afghanistan laugh at the Irish army because they are so bad ( the infidels probably never heard of Ireland so thats aload of ****e) Why doesnt the Irish government do anything about this and why doesnt Irish army help out in Iraq when they should (because the Irish government is paying to much on people who are on the dole who should be elsewhere lets put it)

We just translated that at the same time ffs lol:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Mark_ · 03-09-2009 9:18pm

Irish_polizei wrote: »

We just translated that at the same time ffs lol:rolleyes::rolleyes:

xD

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 · 03-09-2009 9:20pm

thanks to u my firend, im gunna put it in my essay fur skool. were all gonna lern sumthin thx to u, my class will be shokd i got sum stuff dat isnt in txt books haha xD

like imcheatin or sumthin xD

itsonlywords · 03-09-2009 9:20pm

Irish_polizei wrote: »

Lads, ye are just as bad yourselves if you cant read that, ye are going a bit over the top with it,lol but what he tried to say was " I was just wondering about the Irish army, If Ireland is a member of the EU, why have we such a badly equipped army, the Irish army has no planes(the Irish aer corp do) or tanks or anything, so if an enemy force were to invade(never goin to happen, after all we are a neutral country) they could not defend this country! Why is the army so bad? The man under that gives me sweeties out of his car tells me that it is not hard to get a position as an army operative and that they are not trained very well compared to other countrys forces. My cousin who is in the British army says that every single person in Iraq/Afghanistan laugh at the Irish army because they are so bad ( the infidels probably never heard of Ireland so thats aload of ****e) Why doesnt the Irish government do anything about this and why doesnt Irish army help out in Iraq when they should (because the Irish government is paying to much on people who are on the dole who should be elsewhere lets put it)

He is as dsylexic as I am. He is a WUM for Gods sake. Dopey git in my opinion. He is on ignore now anyway until he gets manners.

RMD · 03-09-2009 10:04pm

It's a neutral country isolated from other countries essentially other than the Uk. What need do we have for tanks, planes, a large navy etc?

We're a member of the EU, meaning were surrounded on 3 sides by allied countries willing to help us a the drop of a hat. What on earth would we be attacked for? We're allied with the UK nowadays and have been for quite some time, meaning there's no country within about 3000+ that would attack us.

The Irish army is well trained and nowadays is quite well equipped for the missions it does, PEACE KEEPING, you don't need a large navy fleet or a **** load of tanks to do Peace Keeping. The Irish army has been commended many times before by far superior armies for it's contributions in UN peace keeping operations including the Australian, German, American and French armies.

Oh and FYI, last "internation war games" the ARW beat both the SAS and Delta force in a hostage rescue situation, we came 3rd, Sweden and Belgium came first. How's that make you feel about you're army now? Get your head out of your ass, there is 3 armies I can think off the top of my head who would demolish the British army in a conventional war.

a-k-47 · 03-09-2009 10:31pm

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 wrote: »

thanks to u my firend, im gunna put it in my essay fur skool. were all gonna lern sumthin thx to u, my class will be shokd i got sum stuff dat isnt in txt books haha xD

like imcheatin or sumthin xD

lol good luck with it buddy ....

itsonlywords · 03-09-2009 10:34pm

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 wrote: »

hello

i wuz jus wundern bout da irish army. ireland is apart of da eu so y duz it hav such a bad army? it hs no plane's r tank's r nefins so if a enemy country invadid dey cud not defend it. y is da army so bad??? i herd its vry easy to get in cumpard to other army's n dat dey r not wel traindat al. my cusin who is in da english army (best of da world) say's that every1 in iraq/afkanistan laff's bot da irish army cuz dey r so bad. y dsnt da goverment do sumfin bout da army? nd y dsnt irish army help out in iraq at al wen dey shud?

So Pudsy Ryan is not dead after all?:D

Zambia · 04-09-2009 5:13am

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 wrote: »

ye lol, so can u annsr sum qs about da army den or not? its onl 2 help wiv skool n that, for sum summer essay to do ovr summer ye

thanks men

If you wrote a whole essay like this mate, no one would read it. Just make something up and submit it.

Agent Smith · 04-09-2009 5:17am

This entire thread needs to be blown up like a spanish trawler...

Manic Moran · 04-09-2009 5:23am

Actually, I'm thinking I'll leave it here just for humour value.

NTM

troubleshooter · 04-09-2009 8:32am

RMD wrote: »

It's a neutral country isolated from other countries essentially other than the Uk. What need do we have for tanks, planes, a large navy etc?

We're a member of the EU, meaning were surrounded on 3 sides by allied countries willing to help us a the drop of a hat. What on earth would we be attacked for? We're allied with the UK nowadays and have been for quite some time, meaning there's no country within about 3000+ that would attack us.

The Irish army is well trained and nowadays is quite well equipped for the missions it does, PEACE KEEPING, you don't need a large navy fleet or a **** load of tanks to do Peace Keeping. The Irish army has been commended many times before by far superior armies for it's contributions in UN peace keeping operations including the Australian, German, American and French armies.

Oh and FYI, last "internation war games" the ARW beat both the SAS and Delta force in a hostage rescue situation, we came 3rd, Sweden and Belgium came first. How's that make you feel about you're army now? Get your head out of your ass, there is 3 armies I can think off the top of my head who would demolish the British army in a conventional war.

The ARW has never beaten the SAS or Delta in any compeitions, where does this crap come from. The ARW came third a few years back in a charity competition which involved orienteering, hostage rescue simulation etc against a various European Police swat teams it was won by an Italian swat team. The Delta, SAS dont do such events, they are to busy in being deployed in various theatres.Ie doing it in real situations.

The ARW also come 1st overall in a sniper and field craft event against non special forces units from Scandinavia in a comp.

Irish_Army01 · 04-09-2009 10:52am

troubleshooter wrote: »

The ARW has never beaten the SAS or Delta in any compeitions, where does this crap come from. The ARW came third a few years back in a charity competition which involved orienteering, hostage rescue simulation etc against a various European Police swat teams it was won by an Italian swat team. The Delta, SAS dont do such events, they are to busy in being deployed in various theatres.Ie doing it in real situations.

The ARW also come 1st overall in a sniper and field craft event against non special forces units from Scandinavia in a comp.

Yeah they have never beaten CAG or the SAS in any competition. The ARW capabilities would be as good as any's but obviously because they are not in Iraq/A-stan with the rest of the Worlds SOF Units they haven't been tested to their full..

They are top men at what they do..

troubleshooter · 04-09-2009 11:09am

Irish_Army01 wrote: »

Yeah they have never beaten CAG or the SAS in any competition. The ARW capabilities would be as good as any's but obviously because they are not in Iraq/A-stan with the rest of the Worlds SOF Units they haven't been tested to their full..

They are top men at what they do..

You cant claim they are top at what they do until thats been proven.

Otherwise its simply an arrogant claim, dont dispute they done well on UN ops etc, but to claim they are on par with units like the Delta or SAS in terms of capabilities,selection experience, training is not true.

The average SAS recruit has most likely served 5-7 years and previously been in the Para pathfinders, Special forces suipport group or another long range patrol group and seen alot of combat, even then only a few get through selection, such is its demanding nature. Even Royal marine commandos say UKSF selection is a big step up.

biko · 04-09-2009 11:15am

Baby Jesus just rang to say he cried reading that OP

Irish_Army01 · 04-09-2009 12:04pm

troubleshooter wrote: »

You cant claim they are top at what they do until thats been proven.

Otherwise its simply an arrogant claim, dont dispute they done well on UN ops etc, but to claim they are on par with units like the Delta or SAS in terms of capabilities,selection experience, training is not true.

The average SAS recruit has most likely served 5-7 years and previously been in the Para pathfinders, Special forces suipport group or another long range patrol group and seen alot of combat, even then only a few get through selection, such is its demanding nature. Even Royal marine commandos say UKSF selection is a big step up.

By your post, I'm assuming your British...I'm sensing a bit of pride in your post which is fine..I'm not going to get into pissing contest with you.

The Wing train with all the top teir Units in Europe with exchanges in training and courses..If they weren't any good I'm sure they would have been sent packing ages ago..

prinz · 04-09-2009 12:08pm

Aersenal4Lyf2k8 wrote: »

**** of im dyslecxic, dont make fun,,.

Mark_ wrote: »

He clearly is so theres no need to make light stabs about it is there?

He clearly isn't. Studies have shown that using a keyboard improves the text of a dyslexia sufferer compared to handwriting. Also because someone is dyslexic does not automatically mean that text speak is suddenly easier to type and use.

dog_pig wrote: »

I was just wondering about the Irish army. Ireland is part of the EU so why does it have such a bad army? It has no planes or tanks or anything so if an enemy country invaded they could not defend it. Why is the army so bad? I heard it's very easy to get in compared to other armies and that they are not well trained at all. My cousin who's in the English army (best in the world) says that everyone in Iraq/Afghanistan laughs about the Irish army because they are so bad. Why doesn't the government do something about the army? And why doesn't the Irish army help out in Iraq at all when they should?

Perhaps because it's one of the few European armed forces which hasn't seen major comprehensive action in the last 80 years. When countries have been repeatedly invaded, occupied, attacked, declared war etc they tend to put more of an emphasis on military spending and capabilities, of course there are exceptions.

troubleshooter · 04-09-2009 12:10pm

Irish_Army01 wrote: »

By your post, I'm assuming your British...I'm sensing a bit of pride in your post which is fine..I'm not going to get into pissing contest with you.

The Wing train with all the top teir Units in Europe with exchanges in training and courses..If they weren't any good I'm sure they would have been sent packing ages ago..

Im Irish, who said they were no good ?

I just questioned the arrogance of your claim that they were on par in terms of selection, capabilities, training and experience with units like the SAS or delta and were the "top at what they do", what like guarding cash convoys ?

Yes, they train with other SOF units, thats standard procedure.

Irish_Army01 · 04-09-2009 12:21pm

troubleshooter wrote: »

Im Irish, who said they were no good ?

I just questioned the arrogance of your claim that they were on par in terms of selection, capabilities, training and experience with units like the SAS or delta and were the "top at what they do", what like guarding cash convoys ?

Yes, they train with other SOF units, thats standard procedure.

Now your being a smart ass with that comment. The selection procedure is as hard as any other SOF Unit..On average out of 50 students, they might only get 4 to pass and out of them 4 only one might pass the skills course which last 5 months!

I know in one year they got no one. As mentioned they train with all the top Units so they're training would be similarly demanding.

As for capabilities, Each Member is cross trained in a number of disciplines..

itsonlywords · 04-09-2009 12:42pm

Irish_Army01 wrote: »

Now your being a smart ass with that comment. The selection procedure is as hard as any other SOF Unit..On average out of 50 students, they might only get 4 to pass and out of them 4 only one might pass the skills course which last 5 months!

I know in one year they got no one. As mentioned they train with all the top Units so they're training would be similarly demanding.

As for capabilities, Each Member is cross trained in a number of disciplines..

There is a big difference between the SAS and our elite Rangers. Our guys are highly trained but still retain their humanity and intelligence. The SAS are animals who are trained murderers with no respect for human life. Thugs in uniforms with the same morals as the Black and Tans.Look at their murders of defenceless Irish men in Gibraltar. "Heroes" that mowed down unarmed civilians. They committed bank robberies in England and Wales but it all covered up by the cops, less it cast the "glorious" SS, sorry SAS in a biad light. In 1997 a SAS killer raped a child and then murdered her father in Hereford but that was covered up also. It is a known fact that SAS thugs robbed banks in our country and laid the blame at the door of the IRA. So we should not compare our lads wuth those evil thugs.

troubleshooter · 04-09-2009 12:44pm

Irish_Army01 wrote: »

Now your being a smart ass with that comment. The selection procedure is as hard as any other SOF Unit..On average out of 50 students, they might only get 4 to pass and out of them 4 only one might pass the skills course which last 5 months!

I know in one year they got no one. As mentioned they train with all the top Units so they're training would be similarly demanding.

As for capabilities, Each Member is cross trained in a number of disciplines..

So your now claim ARW selection is as challenging as UKSOF selection?

Thats not true, ARW has no 45 miler long drags in it, where a candidate has to navigate alone at night often in fog/sleet etc with 60lbs of kit and weapon. Nor does it have a jungle phase in selection, nor many others things. Can you back you stat up that only 3/4 in 50 get through selection, I believe it to be 20%, who actually pass selection tests.

Phase 1 ARW selection lasts 3 weeks and ends in a 30 mile group march.

Thats the point, "cross trained in a number of capabilites", yes, but not as much depth or with as much on going training as specialist SAS airtroop, mountain troop(12 months Baverian mountain warfare course), boat troop, mobility/long range patrol troop receive. No one is saying the ARW are not a motivated outfit operating on a limited budget, with limited experience, claiming their selection and training etc is on par with UKSOF or the Delta, each troop costs about 1 million pounds to train is fantasy.

Poccington · 04-09-2009 12:44pm

And on that note, this thread has run it's course.

irish armey. [HELP)

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