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Ivax in trouble?

  • 03-09-2009 1:56pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭


    Just got a phonecall from a friend, apparently staff were called today and told not to come in, and that there'll be an announcement made on Monday regarding all staff.. anybody hear anything about this?

    Disasterous stuff, just when you think things are starting to pick up a bit :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    Very sad if true, Good friend of mine has worked there for years is mortgaged and the nine yards. Suppose best not speculate until an official statement from them etc etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭babyjames


    Yep it is true I,ve worked there for 14 years , Told today not to come to work tomorrow or Monday morning also no Night shift to ninhgt or any work over the weekend, Big meeting for all staff at 9.45 in the morning. Worried sick.
    ziedth wrote: »
    Very sad if true, Good friend of mine has worked there for years is mortgaged and the nine yards. Suppose best not speculate until an official statement from them etc etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭well butty


    sh1tE!!!!!!

    The best of luck folks!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭UhOh


    Very strange TBH, things looked to be looking good for 2010 especially when you see articles like this

    http://www.tribune.ie/business/news/article/2009/aug/30/israeli-recovery-may-be-a-boon-to-waterfords-teva-/

    no production until 2pm Monday, so strange. Lets pray if it is bad news it's minimal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    jesus doesn't sound good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭1967


    Christ this does not sound good, especially as i read the article in the tribune on sunday if that place goes the estate will be like a ghost town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Ausone


    I don't work out in Teva, but I do know the industry.

    Teva has no other inhalation site.
    The recently won a court case against GSK (who are appealling) regarding a patent of a combination inhaler.

    They recently made space by outsourcing their distribution system.

    They are gearing up for a new combination inhaler facility, unfortunately other thing may also be happening with solid dosage forms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers


    Would the fact that they stopped production maybe indicate that there was some sort of recall on a product? I know it's wishful thinking not to be thinking redundancies but for a company that was seemingly doing very well to make such a sudden move it might suggest something different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    On the RTE 6 news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭stick-dan


    terrible news, our thoughts should be with the employees at a time like this terrible thing to happen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭UhOh


    Nolanger wrote: »
    On the RTE 6 news.

    didnt see it. What did they say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Both my parents work there, rumours and I stress rumours, are that there closing the tablet operation. The meeting is tomorrow and not monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭hellfireie


    wheres waterfords task force???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭mailrewop


    my brothers been there for a good few years making the inhalers and from what im hearing its not going to be good, i've heard that tablets are gone and inhalers are going to be moved to another country within the next few months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    They were trumpeting 165 new jobs in May, why such a sudden reappraisal?

    http://www.biotechnologyireland.com/POOLED/articles/bf_newsart/view.asp?Q=bf_newsart_299812


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Source on this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Paige Turner




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭dannydiamond


    What in gods name lead any of you to believe that things are looking up?

    Don't hold your breath folks,it'll be a while.
    We've all got to be realistic and not kid ourselves into thinking otherwise,every reliable source points out that we'll be in the mire for a long time yet.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news,but it's in everyones interests to at least be realistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭DanGlee


    Best of luck guys... I hope its not too bad news. I was working across the road in Sun Life and was made redundant from there a few months back... its not a nice pill to swallow and there is no work out there!

    Best of luck!

    Ill be listening on news and here for updates!


    DG.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭well butty


    Any news here??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Pat Kenny is talking about this in a moment.

    www.rte.ie/radio1

    315 (?) jobs to go. Solid Dose tablet facility to close. Production to Hungary factory it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭Quigs Snr


    I am hearing from someone in the meeting, the loss of the tablet division and 315 jobs over the next 12 months.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The only "good" news is that its not a big-bang cutback by Christmas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭whos who


    Another blow for waterford...........greatest sympathy for everyone involved!!:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Paige Turner




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    I hope to God that Mary Coughlan will finally get her trotter out of her hole and do something about jobs in Waterford. She could start by treating us like Limerick and Galway, rather than like Longford or Castlebar! :mad:

    I know that a "task force" is the Pavlovian reaction to any major job losses, and ultimately does very little, but we don't even have a bloody task force! :mad::confused::mad::confused::mad::confused:

    Sorry for the people who lost their jobs - I hope you'll find something soon. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭savic04


    what is the irish gov and local council doing to keep jobs in waterford.

    Moving to hungary, dell to poland etc

    Ireland has been built on a false economy the past few years and is only realising now how bad a state we are in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭soldering iron


    fricatus wrote: »
    I hope to God that Mary Coughlan will finally get her trotter out of her hole and do something about jobs in Waterford. She could start by treating us like Limerick and Galway, rather than like Longford or Castlebar! :mad:

    I know that a "task force" is the Pavlovian reaction to any major job losses, and ultimately does very little, but we don't even have a bloody task force! :mad::confused::mad::confused::mad::confused:

    Sorry for the people who lost their jobs - I hope you'll find something soon. :(

    where!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭soldering iron


    savic04 wrote: »
    what is the irish gov and local council doing to keep jobs in waterford.

    Moving to hungary, dell to poland etc

    Ireland has been built on a false economy the past few years and is only realising now how bad a state we are in.
    Too many over paid cheif's,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    fricatus wrote: »
    Sorry for the people who lost their jobs - I hope you'll find something soon. :(
    where!!!

    I wrote that more in hope than expectation, I'm afraid...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭well butty


    Too many over paid cheif's,

    Too many over paid. Full stop. Across the board.

    False economy, correct, that everyone bought into!!!!

    However, we need to see leadership from the Givernment NOW!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭soldering iron


    fricatus wrote: »
    I wrote that more in hope than expectation, I'm afraid...
    There was no malic in my reply either, it's just there is nothing happening here in the Job front.Even when this so called Celtic tiger visited this island, it's presence was nor really felt here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭soldering iron


    well butty wrote: »
    Too many over paid. Full stop. Across the board.

    False economy, correct, that everyone bought into!!!!

    However, we need to see leadership from the Givernment NOW!!!!!!!!

    Do you realy think that the people that were a major part of this situation , can realy bring stability back to the country.There whole ethos is ff first and the country second, they (ff) did get get us into this mess.

    "WE NEED CHANGE" !! "NOW"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭shapez


    Do you realy think that the people that were a major part of this situation , can realy bring stability back to the country.There whole ethos is ff first and the country second, they (ff) did get get us into this mess.

    "WE NEED CHANGE" !! "NOW"

    Bit of topic and I apologise.

    That maybe so and I completely agree. But, do you thinka FG/Labour coalition is going to do any better. It is pretty certain that Enda Kenny is the next in line. But, will he lower the taxes again? Get rid of NAMA?

    Have they made too many promises to change and won't be able to live up to them when they get in power?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭gscully


    This one is going to get messy from the looks of things...

    According to a mate who works there, the feeling after the meeting from some of the staff who are there a long time, is that they will try to use their seniority to take the jobs in the inhaler section. This could be bravado on their part, but apparently all of the union reps are from the tablet section, so they will be looking after number one!

    I imagine the decision on seniority rests with head-office, and I honestly can't see it being given a moment's thought as the costs of cross-training and all that will be factored in. However, the very fact that the union guys are the ones getting cut, means stormy waters ahead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭well butty


    gscully wrote: »
    This one is going to get messy from the looks of things...

    According to a mate who works there, the feeling after the meeting from some of the staff who are there a long time, is that they will try to use their seniority to take the jobs in the inhaler section. This could be bravado on their part, but apparently all of the union reps are from the tablet section, so they will be looking after number one!

    I imagine the decision on seniority rests with head-office, and I honestly can't see it being given a moment's thought as the costs of cross-training and all that will be factored in. However, the very fact that the union guys are the ones getting cut, means stormy waters ahead.

    Seniority don't count in a Human Resource situation if the company can prove that the roles are not compatible. Hot air at the moment. Unfortunate all the same!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭manus30


    i know that the union and the staff in solid dose are going to fight tooth and nail to take the jobs from the staff in the inhallations plant.
    would management have the power to overrule the union?
    the md said that the job losses only affect solid dose employees but i am sure the union will have some issues with that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭well butty


    manus30 wrote: »
    i know that the union and the staff in solid dose are going to fight tooth and nail to take the jobs from the staff in the inhallations plant.
    would management have the power to overrule the union?
    the md said that the job losses only affect solid dose employees but i am sure the union will have some issues with that.

    They legally cannot do it. They two skill sets are different. The management can legally let them go, even if they are there longer. However, this is Ireland with Unions occupied by neanderthal men with antiquated ideas of how the system works! Never say never!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 847 ✭✭✭mickger


    The fact of the matter is that Inhalations and Solid dose are under the one banner which is Teva. When starting with teva the company decide on where to put you depending on how busy either plant is. It has happened many times before that when inhalations were not that busy the people with sceneority over there have taken jobs from the Solid Dose people with less sceneority than them. So no way can i see a situation that a guy with 20 years service in Solid Dose will be out the door ahead of a guy that has only a few years service in Inhalations. It will be interesting to see what happens but i'm thinking it could turn nasty.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭well butty


    mickger wrote: »
    The fact of the matter is that Inhalations and Solid dose are under the one banner which is Teva. When starting with teva the company decide on where to put you depending on how busy either plant is. It has happened many times before that when inhalations were not that busy the people with sceneority over there have taken jobs from the Solid Dose people with less sceneority than them. So no way can i see a situation that a guy with 20 years service in Solid Dose will be out the door ahead of a guy that has only a few years service in Inhalations. It will be interesting to see what happens but i'm thinking it could turn nasty.

    What i would say to the workers who fear that seniority will be pulled on them, go straight to your solicitor, don't mind the union. There are more than enough laws here to protect the employee. Don't let the union look after their mates!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 339 ✭✭itsonlywords


    fricatus wrote: »
    I hope to God that Mary Coughlan will finally get her trotter out of her hole and do something about jobs in Waterford. She could start by treating us like Limerick and Galway, rather than like Longford or Castlebar! :mad:

    I know that a "task force" is the Pavlovian reaction to any major job losses, and ultimately does very little, but we don't even have a bloody task force! :mad::confused::mad::confused::mad::confused:

    Sorry for the people who lost their jobs - I hope you'll find something soon. :(
    Wouldnt it be nice to hear something from Helicopter Cullen now? Maybe he is oversaes on holidays while his constituency is falling apart. Waste of space that man. We need a jackie Healy rae here. might be dopey acting but he gets it done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Roanmore


    fricatus wrote: »
    I hope to God that Mary Coughlan will finally get her trotter out of her hole and do something about jobs in Waterford. /QUOTE]

    You're kidding right? When Dell announced they were moving their manufacturing base to Poland Coughlan said that these weren't the jobs we were after anyway, we want higher spec jobs. Such bulls**t. Without a manufacturing base an economy is lost and this government haven't grasped that. The UK in the 80's went the same way thinking services and banking was the way to go and they have never recovered. I think it's too late but I hope I'm wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,827 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Very serious alright. And this is the type of industry the Govt have been plugging as the future of the economy.
    On a broader note though, I know unions are important to have and all the rest but they can have too much of a bearing on things. Do you think the union are a concern in Hungary; doubt it somehow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    Wouldnt it be nice to hear something from Helicopter Cullen now?

    Are you SERIOUS Cullen dosen't give a kcuF.


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