Irish Political Parties

optocynic

Just for fun, I thought I would do a brief description of the major parties in the Dail, and their followers.

Labour - Good with quick jibes/insults, main followers are jealous of the smart kids they went to school with and are now their social betters! Those successful, studious, feckers must be destroyed at all costs!! Also completely devoid of ideas.

FF - Dodgy, corrupt, cronies. Probably ask for everything in a brown paper bag! Don't create proactive legislation, completely reactionary, in the best interest of their campaign donators!

FG - Legacy rich farmers, but do show some modern promise. However, have to replace the creepy guy with the date-rape voice that is their current leader!

Socialist Party - Labour party for clowns!

Sinn Fein - Socialist Party for racists and religious zealots!

Green Party - Tree hugging hippies that once showed rational promise, but fell at the first hurdle, i.e. Integrity!

PD - Vacuous fascists!

Jackie Healy-Ray - Whacky Independent, bordering on socially retarded, and great supporter of drunk drivers!

How screwed are we??

Grudaire

PD

Ps: No points for guessing you're a FG supporter:p

optocynic

Actually no!!.. not at all a FG supporter.
I do have a small amount of faith in Bruton however!.

Best of a very, very bad bunch I guess!

spank_inferno

I'll get it rolling by speculating....

"What profession would the parties be"
(and this is made up of the top of my head so I know its pants!

FF: Builder or Thief (self explanatory)

FG: Farmer

Lab: Teacher. Likes to think they are socialist.
But their short working week and 50k salary say otherwise

Green: Stay at home Dublin4/18 Mother

Sinn Fein: Currently unemployed


I remember seeing an email: "what animals would the parties be", must dig it out

optocynic

Hilarious!

honesty101

optocynic wrote: »

Just for fun, I thought I would do a brief description of the major parties in the Dail, and their followers.

Labour - Good with quick jibes/insults, main followers are jealous of the smart kids they went to school with and are now their social betters! Those successful, studious, feckers must be destroyed at all costs!! Also completely devoid of ideas.

FF - Dodgy, corrupt, cronies. Probably ask for everything in a brown paper bag! Don't create proactive legislation, completely reactionary, in the best interest of their campaign donators!

FG - Legacy rich farmers, but do show some modern promise. However, have to replace the creepy guy with the date-rape voice that is their current leader!

Socialist Party - Labour party for clowns!

Sinn Fein - Socialist Party for racists and religious zealots!

Green Party - Tree hugging hippies that once showed rational promise, but fell at the first hurdle, i.e. Integrity!

PD - Vacuous fascists!

Jackie Healy-Ray - Whacky Independent, bordering on socially retarded, and great supporter of drunk drivers!

How screwed are we??

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optocynic

Your policies seem rational (on a whole)...

Not crazy about the 'Front-&-Center' attitude you may have for the Irish Language. Some may love it and live for it, but the mandatory teaching (drumming into the heads) of it irks me still.

It has no real use in the modern world, it is mearly a nice to have, to make us feel warm and fuzzy, and to placate the angophobes.

Would it not serve us better to teach Chinese (for example) as the mandatory language... since they will soon be one of the biggest players in world economy??

Kalashnikov_Kid

optocynic wrote: »

Your policies seem rational (on a whole)...
Not crazy about the 'Front-&-Center' attitude you may have for the Irish Language. Some may love it and live for it, but the mandatory teaching (drumming into the heads) of it irks me still.

I agree. Go on a fact-finding mission to Wales for some cues on how to get people speaking Irish.

ANYWAY, back on topic...

Jackie Healy-Ray...great supporter of drunk drivers!

IIRC a FG councillor from the deep-south advocated drink-driving a while back!

Tableman

Would it not serve us better to teach Chinese (for example) as the mandatory language... since they will soon be one of the biggest players in world economy??

You do have to wonder why there hasnt been more emphasis on learning a foreign langauge in recent years.

Kalashnikov_Kid

Tableman wrote: »

You do have to wonder why there hasnt been more emphasis on learning a foreign langauge in recent years.

Was having a foreign language as an NUI admission requirement not enough??

optocynic

Kalashnikov_Kid wrote: »

IIRC a FG councillor from the deep-south advocated drink-driving a while back!

From the deep-south??.. well colour me surprised!
And just to underline the point... I am in no way a FG supporter.
I voted Green, before they had the morality-colonic procedure!!

PrivateEye

Socialist Party - Labour party for clowns!

With an MEP?
Sticky Smoked Salmon Socialists advocating a vote for Lisbon on the back of Intel supporting it are clowns mate.

Sinn Fein - Socialist Party for racists and religious zealots!

What are you talking about?
Sinn Féin members have a long standing record of taking part in anti-fascist activity. Like the SP stuff above, this is childish rubbish.



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Anyway, to add to the list:

Immigration Control Platorm- actual clowns.

Republican Sinn Fein- 100 Years of Unbroken Continuity! they claim.
They also shoot pizzaboys.

Irish Republican Socialist Party- Political wing of the INLA

32 County Sovreignty Movement- Political wing of the RIRA?

Eirigi- New kids on the block, republican-socialists. Making series inroads in recent times, did very well during Lisbon I and are good at managing publicity. A Dublin thing down south, but gaining ground in the North rapidly.

The Workers Party- Everyone who wasnt good enough for Labour amirite.

Christian Solidarity Party- circus.

Socialist Workers Party/People Before Profit Alliance- One in the same really, made massive gains in recent times. Expect two possible TDs (Richard Boyd Barrett and Joan Collins) after the next GE.

CPI/Communist Party Of Ireland- No longer partake in elections as far as I'm aware?

Isn't there a senior citizens party of some form too?

Kalashnikov_Kid

optocynic wrote: »

From the deep-south??..

North/South Tipp - cant remember which. Was meant to be used in irony . He was quoting in saying that he saw no harm in having 3 or 4 pints, then driving home. I laughed at the time - that's all I can remember.

optocynic

PrivateEye wrote: »

What are you talking about?
Sinn Féin members have a long standing record of taking part in anti-fascist activity. Like the SP stuff above, this is childish rubbish.

Sinn Feiner huh?

dum-de-dum...

optocynic

Kalashnikov_Kid wrote: »

North/South Tipp - cant remember which. Was meant to be used in irony . He was quoting in saying that he saw no harm in having 3 or 4 pints, then driving home. I laughed at the time - that's all I can remember.

Sounds like a dangerous clown to me... but I also heard Healy-Ray say the exact same thing on RTE Radio 1 a few years back...

I wonder if it's because he owns a pub?

And running people over is cool with him... besides, the dark, winding, narrow roads in Kerry lend themselves to inebriated speeding.

PrivateEye

Your Guide To The Party Supporter!

FF: Manages the local GAA Under 12s, thinks its 1921, turns a blind eye to the 'hand in the póca' business down the town hall. Passionate about the E.U, for the last six months anyway.

FG: Can be heard cursing the public sector down the pub, pub-rants tend to end in Oliver J Flanagan outbursts like "And I have the blueshirt in the closet *farts stout* and I tell ya- the day might come I take it out again!" Extremely unhip individual who probably only listens to CDs that came free with a Sunday Newspaper.

Lab: Show-cialist who couldn't spot Volunteer Frank Ross or Lady Wickla at her own party convention. Loves to talk about how Sinn Fein is "like, such an IRA front" but will probably find a copy of The Lost Revolution in her Christmas pile from a relative a bit further left. Thinks Joe Higgins is "a nice man" but that he has "mad ideas" Last rally she went on was about Iraq.

Green: Does their best to leave the car at home. Not so much for the environment, but to save face. Can you really fill your car up with petrol from the same Shell station you used to picket outside? Strands by the 'Greena Fail Programme' and cried when she flew off to New York for a shopping trip (via Shannon ) A 4 day a week vegetarian, and only Superquinn Veggie sausages will do.

Sinn Fein: 'The time for insurrection is over!' this pub genius declares, while flogging Palestine/Basque Land flags over the counter. We don't sell them online of course, in case Irish America doesn't approve. We allow Ógra Shinn Féin to do their "young rebel" thing, and sometimes even pat them on the head as we cross their pickets for a meeting down the townhall with the local PSNI.

In Dublin, Mary Lou McDonald will win us them suburban seats alright. Less Socialism, more showman ship. *one sec, phone call*

Joe who? Really? Bollocks to that.

Socialist Party: More likely an angry public sector worker than a Trotksyite, and thank God for that.

Dissident Republican Parties: You might not know this shaddy local character to see, but he lives in the house with the two unmarked cars across the road. Pizza delivery boys refuse to deliver here.

Jackie Healy-Racists: You wouldn't understand, its a Kerry thing. Ireland for the Irish, and Paddycaps for the Irish too.

Immigration Control Platform: Angry as he is about his 10% Pay cut, he's twice as angry about the 10% of the 'new colonists' on Moore Street. Spews race-hate while tucking into a Chinese takeaway, talks sh/te about 'the brits' while praising the BNP, and would support Sinn Fein if it wasn't a 'Marxist front'. A strange man altogether.

Christian Solidarity Party: £1.84, the new Minimum Wage after the Anglo Irish Treaty/ Maastrict/ Nice/ Lisbon/ Armageddon. Local scaremonger. Can read all the conspiracy theories in the world, but not the Ryan Report. In fact, don't mention that at all. Often goes hand in hand with the lunatic one up.

PrivateEye

optocynic wrote: »

Sinn Feiner huh?

dum-de-dum...

Miles off mate :rolleyes:
Not a nationalist of any shade, I don't even partake in elections.

I know for a fact many Sinn Féin activists over the years put in solid ground work in anti racist and anti fascist activity. In fact, if you don't know that, you're either somebody who was parachuted into Dublin last week or gets their politics strictly from the 6'1 News.

optocynic

PrivateEye wrote: »

Miles off mate :rolleyes:
Not a nationalist of any shade, I don't even partake in elections.

I know for a fact many Sinn Féin activists over the years put in solid ground work in anti racist and anti fascist activity. In fact, if you don't know that, you're either somebody who was parachuted into Dublin last week or gets their politics strictly from the 6'1 News.

Nope... just a guy who had the misfortune of sharing a college lunch table with Mary Lou once or twice.. and now I see how she has 'changed'..

Keep up with the party stuff though... very funny so far.

PrivateEye

Mary Lou, ewwwwww.

Lockstep

IME SF have been solidly anti-racist.


I've met some great sterotypes though; my favorite being the woman in the upper-middle class suburb who was saying she'd only ever vote Green as she "loves bikes".
She also had a massive 2 seater SUV in the driveway.

I had to leave before I laughed in her face.

optocynic

PrivateEye wrote: »

Mary Lou, ewwwwww.

Yep... had to physically wash the smug off me...

optocynic

kickoutthejams wrote: »

IME SF have been solidly anti-racist.

Remember, I wasn't talking about SF as a party when I said racist (Even though I do think they prey on the ignorant and anglophobes amongst us).. I was refering the typical SF supporter...

You know... the Taxi driver that starts every sentence with.

"I'm not a racist, but..."

Lockstep

Yeah; I disagree with that too.

I've met very few SF voters who are racist, most who do quickly realise that their party is touting a different line to their own soon enough.

optocynic

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Yeah; I disagree with that too.

I've met very few SF voters who are racist, most who do quickly realise that their party is touting a different line to their own soon enough.

You obviously have never visited a pub in Clondalkin/Tallaght etc?

PrivateEye

Nah, by and large those types are guilty of over simplfying 'them across the water' but beyond that are generally quite left wing. The typical Shinner, even the pub shinner, is more likely to rant about 'the bankers' than 'the blacks'

Not uncommon to see a dodgey Che Guevara tattoo on the forearm, but rarely a racist. There are plenty of racist nationalists, but most of this have no time for Sinn Féin.

Lots of good activists, unionheads and joe soaps got lost in the deadend that is Sinn Féin, pity.

irish_bob

optocynic wrote: »

Just for fun, I thought I would do a brief description of the major parties in the Dail, and their followers.

Labour - Good with quick jibes/insults, main followers are jealous of the smart kids they went to school with and are now their social betters! Those successful, studious, feckers must be destroyed at all costs!! Also completely devoid of ideas.

FF - Dodgy, corrupt, cronies. Probably ask for everything in a brown paper bag! Don't create proactive legislation, completely reactionary, in the best interest of their campaign donators!

FG - Legacy rich farmers, but do show some modern promise. However, have to replace the creepy guy with the date-rape voice that is their current leader!

Socialist Party - Labour party for clowns!

Sinn Fein - Socialist Party for racists and religious zealots!

Green Party - Tree hugging hippies that once showed rational promise, but fell at the first hurdle, i.e. Integrity!

PD - Vacuous fascists!

Jackie Healy-Ray - Whacky Independent, bordering on socially retarded, and great supporter of drunk drivers!

How screwed are we??

i like stereotypes as much as the next person but come on , show some imagination

irish_bob

spank_inferno wrote: »

I'll get it rolling by speculating....

"What profession would the parties be"
(and this is made up of the top of my head so I know its pants!

FF: Builder or Thief (self explanatory)

FG: Farmer

Lab: Teacher. Likes to think they are socialist.
But their short working week and 50k salary say otherwise

Green: Stay at home Dublin4/18 Mother

Sinn Fein: Currently unemployed


I remember seeing an email: "what animals would the parties be", must dig it out

thats what im talkin about

Lockstep

optocynic wrote: »

You obviously have never visited a pub in Clondalkin/Tallaght etc?

I assume you're going for the "you don't really know the working class" angle, but then again, you have already said you're upper middle class.
I did grow up I near Tallaght but...yeah.

I think you're mixing up SF voters with SF supporters.
The odd voter might have a racist idea but their activists and party faithful are pretty staunchly anti racist.

I know quite a few Shinners (voters and supporters) and none are racist. A few of them are new Irish as well so they;d hardly be in a party with a racist voting base.

FTA69

PrivateEye wrote: »

Republican Sinn Fein- 100 Years of Unbroken Continuity! they claim.
They also shoot pizzaboys.

Twas the Reals who did Massareene.

ANTIFA!

kickoutthejams wrote: »

I assume you're going for the "you don't really know the working class" angle, but then again, you have already said you're upper middle class.
I did grow up I near Tallaght but...yeah.

I think you're mixing up SF voters with SF supporters.
The odd voter might have a racist idea but their activists and party faithful are pretty staunchly anti racist.

I know quite a few Shinners (voters and supporters) and none are racist. A few of them are new Irish as well so they;d hardly be in a party with a racist voting base.

jesus dont say that over on politics.ie a few of them seem to have a complex about the term.

Salvelinus

FF: Like father like son
FG: Like father like son
Labour: Like father like son
SF: Cuba is great, but we get more money from the US

Lockstep

ANTIFA! wrote: »

jesus dont say that over on politics.ie a few of them seem to have a complex about the term.

Go on?

PrivateEye

I wouldn't waste my time reading Politics.ie, your brain will actually melt. Too many smalltime party hacks.

Lockstep

Ha, I used to be on a fair bit, don't really browse anymore as it went a bit off the wall.

optocynic

irish_bob wrote: »

i like stereotypes as much as the next person but come on , show some imagination

In the world of craven politics (Poly-Thicks!!) sterotypes are called demographics!!!

ChocolateSauce

I've got a description: All Irish parties = lacklustre at best, criminal at worst.

kickoutthejams

kickoutthejams wrote: »

I know quite a few Shinners (voters and supporters) and none are racist. A few of them are new Irish as well so they;d hardly be in a party with a racist voting base.

In fairness, I guess many of the Shinner voting community never really had to worry about jobs being taken by those forrinners...

I must say, I know a few of them with some pretty offensive opinions about the British. Now, not sure if that makes them racist but...

Lockstep

Deleted User wrote: »

In fairness, I guess many of the Shinner voting community never really had to worry about jobs being taken by those forrinners...

I must say, I know a few of them with some pretty offensive opinions about the British. Now, not sure if that makes them racist but...

IIRC, around 5% of working class people vote for the Shinners compared to 1% of middle class people. (They have a fairly big voting base in Dublin city for example.

Shinners voting blocks are probably the some of the ones most likely to be affected.