Removal of Teaching Experience from PGDE

craiggy

hello,
Just wondering what you all think of the removal of points for teaching experience from the PGDE application? As some1 who is looking to apply next year I'm a bit worried about it..i got a 2.1 degree (below 65) and am plannin to do a masters but its hard to know if that will be enough. Do you think the points will be lower in the future since they have now removed the experience element? Based on this year I would have made it with a masters..

sitstill

Why have they stopped giving points for teaching experience?

Rosita

craiggy wrote: »

hello,
Just wondering what you all think of the removal of points for teaching experience from the PGDE application? As some1 who is looking to apply next year I'm a bit worried about it..i got a 2.1 degree (below 65) and am plannin to do a masters but its hard to know if that will be enough. Do you think the points will be lower in the future since they have now removed the experience element? Based on this year I would have made it with a masters..

Presumably the only genuine reason that the majority of people went for teaching experience in the first place is that their degree score was not high enough without it.

Logically with the removal of this option the points for the Dip should go down and you might make it even without a Master's if that happens. Of course the increase in unemployment of many graduates who might decide to apply for the Dip might offset that drop in points.

But the one problem with the Master's is that you will have to wait until it is completed for it to be considered for points so it will be of no help to you if you are applying for the Dip for the next academic year (as in for 2010/11).

Nead21

if anything they should be increasing the points for the PGDE...way too many people doing it and not enough jobs :rolleyes:

craiggy

yeah I heard that about the masters only recently,didn't realize when I applied for it,I thought they might offer places conditionally..its a business degree I've graduated with as well so I know that makes the points higher again..also they have broke the points system down more now offering a point for every 2% rather than 2.5%.

So now if you don't get a good degree teaching just isn't an option? I suppose its fair really..how is it right to gain teaching experience to get onto a diploma which is needed to be allowed to teach? It made no sense..think thats why they stopped it from next year

Dionysus

Nead21 wrote: »

if anything they should be increasing the points for the PGDE...way too many people doing it and not enough jobs :rolleyes:

Precisely. And they should go further and make it easier to become a teacher in subjects which are needed and harder to become one in subjects for which there is no demand.

The amount of people doing History and English in UCD'S PGDE this year is comical. The sole reason why nothing is done to limit the places is, as far as I can see, universities are making a fortune from running the PGDE. There are 238 students on the PGDE in UCD this year. The very minimum tuition fee each of these students is paying is over €6500. In other words, this single course is bringing over €1.5 million to UCD's coffers.

So much for the state's policies of producing graduates which will be of use to Ireland.

Haru

Dionysus wrote: »

There are 238 students on the PGDE in UCD this year. The very minimum tuition fee each of these students is paying is over €6500. In other words, this single course is bringing over €1.5 million to UCD's coffers.

< *just had a heart attack*