Privacy Policy Poll

jocko4

Does anyone find Boards.ie like Big Brother - all PM communications are moderated - this is outrageous - why call it Private Messaging when it's not - how can PMs expose Board.ie to any litigation?

There is no way to communicate via email with members - what's this about?

So what's behind this policy & how many here object to it?

I've searched this site for info on this but didn't find any

brummytom

I didn't even know PMs were moderated.

Shit :eek:

orestes

Private messages aren't moderated and not even the admins can see them unless they are reported (usually for being abusive/spam).

thomond2006

Nice poll.

Senna

I doubt the moderators have any interest in 99.999% of the ****e in PM's. What the hell are you worried about?

Also its a private site, you agreed to the terms by joining.

Dankoozy

before sending someone a PM on boards I swap One-time pad data with them in real life

AckwelFoley

Dear OP

Im sending you this PM to let you know i agree with you

Dr Bollocko is a fag. Its all his fault


Brian.

DonalN

Where did you get this 'breaking news' from ?

brummytom

orestes wrote: »

Private messages aren't moderated and not even the admins can see them unless they are reported (usually for being abusive/spam).

Cheers Oreo (since when are you not a mod?!)

I didn't think I'd ever saw anything about PMs being moderated, but then again, I am slow

PCPhoto

didnt know that PMs are moderated ..... has it always been like that ?

meh ... its like saying that CCTV is an invasion of privacy....only if you are doing wrong then the system can catch you.... I disagree with your claim that its an invasion of privacy.

Overheal

This is so not the forum for this. but let me vote before you throw this thread where I cant follow!

Four-Percent

Im so confused all your poll answers are questions!

Danbo!

Even if they were moderated...

1) why send sensitive info to a random stranger?
2) oh, they're not a random stranger? Then get another form of contact going (email, phonecall, text, and god forbid, maybe meet in person)
3) Why would mods spend their day reading PMs when they've enough ****e threads to close?

EDIT: lol at multiple choice poll, vote spoilt!!!

connundrum

If only there was some way out of having to obey the rules and charter of a privately owned and run forum site..

Oh.. oh wait there is..

Go elsewhere!!

orestes

brummytom wrote: »

Cheers Oreo (since when are you not a mod?!)

I didn't think I'd ever saw anything about PMs being moderated, but then again, I am slow

No worries dude (I stepped down as a mod during the week btw)

PCPhoto wrote: »

didnt know that PMs are moderated

They aren't

stovelid

orestes wrote: »

Private messages aren't moderated and not even the admins can see them unless they are reported (usually for being abusive/spam).

That's a relief.

My PMs are so full of aphorisms, scandal and bon mots that it must be killing the majority of moderators that they can't have as much as a peep.

galwayrush

Who cares anyway. I got nothing to hide:P

Overheal

jocko4 wrote: »

Does anyone find Boards.ie like Big Brother - all PM communications are moderated - this is outrageous - why call it Private Messaging when it's not - how can PMs expose Board.ie to any litigation?

Ask Hullabaloo.

There is no way to communicate via email with members - what's this about?

Ask Regi. I think..

So what's behind this policy

Ask DeV or Cloud

& how many here object to it?

I dont know, youre hiding the poll results.

I've searched this site for info on this but didn't find any

You agreed to it when you signed up. Its also at the very bottom of every page on the website, via the Privacy Statement link.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Earthhorse

Of course PMs on the site aren't moderated, they're pre-moderated, which basically means boards has three bald birds in a pool put the idea for the damn things in your head.

PCPhoto

Overheal wrote: »

Ask Hullabaloo.

Ask Regi. I think..

Ask DeV or Cloud I dont know, youre hiding the poll results.

You agreed to it when you signed up. Its also at the very bottom of every page on the website, via the Privacy Statement link.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

so... its true !!! :P

(Personally ... I dont care - my PM box is full of rubbish)

orestes

Overheal wrote: »

Ask DeV or Cloud I dont know, youre hiding the poll results.

I'm not voting i this poll since the subject matter is completely wrong, but if that is true the ironing is hilarious

chin_grin

It was Earth all along?

The cake is a lie?

There is no spoon?

Wow. Really didn't care about that coz I've nothing to hide........do YOU OP? Hmm? A little skeleton in your outbox? Eh? Yes? Hmm?

AlmightyCushion

Moved from after hours. PMs aren't moderated. If you report a pm then the admins will see the report and the pm content apart from this no mod/admin will see. You can send others here emails if they choose to have it shown in their profile but not everyone wants their email to be made public so their email won' be shown by default.

Senna

The poll results are hidden??

Is that because of privacy?:pac:

jocko4

Ok, wow, I didn't expect this many replies - first off I'm willing to be wrong about this (as an ex-moderator says I am) - can we get confirmation from the mods that PMs are not monitored?

Why is there no email allowed in the usercp?

I kept the results hidden so as not to influence those answering the poll - I'll unhide it in a few days - this is my first poll so a bit green

I joined but that's a stupid answer - I want to know how compliant we all are?

AlmightyCushion

jocko4 wrote: »

Ok, wow, I didn't expect this many replies - first off I'm willing to be wrong about this (as an ex-moderator says I am) - can we get confirmation from the mods that PMs are not monitored?

Why is there no email allowed in the usercp?

I kept the results hidden so as not to influence those answering the poll - I'll unhide it in a few days - this is my first poll so a bit green

I joined but that's a stupid answer - I want to know how compliant we all are?

If you go to this page (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/profile.php?do=editprofile) you can enter all manner of off site communication methods. e.g. skype, twitter, facebook, msn, aim, google chat. Fill those in and anyone on the site can see them and use them to contact you.

I could have sworn you could enter in an email but that doesn't seem to be the case.

jocko4

OK, it seems I was wrong about this - emails are in usercp - lets close the thread.

No, I don't have a lot to hide but I bet your not all squeeky clean either!

Edit: Does anyone know how I can reveal the poll results?

orestes

jocko4 wrote: »

Ok, wow, I didn't expect this many replies - first off I'm willing to be wrong about this (as an ex-moderator says I am) - can we get confirmation from the mods that PMs are not monitored?

Unless there has been a drastic change in the abilities of mods (not to mention in site policy and the privacy agreements/regulations every user signed up to when they registered here) in the 2 days since I have stood down as mod, then no, they can't. Not even the admins can unless the user who recieved the pm reports it, and the admins alone will see it in that case. The only pms any mod can see on here are there own.

Almight Cushion is a cat-mod and he has said the same thing.

Dankoozy

galwayrush wrote: »

Who cares anyway. I got nothing to hide:P

you're no fun. i got lots to hide

.. lots

jocko4

Can I explain now why I came to this erroneous, it seems, conclusion - I PM'd a OP of a thread that was closed & commiserated with him but also offered to talk about it further via email (He sounded mature, I hope he didn't think I was grooming him ). If he reported this then he's some cuckoo so I assumed the post was intercepted as I got a warning from the mods & no reply from the intended recipient! What would you think?

Dankoozy

jocko4 wrote: »

Can I explain now why I came to this erroneous, it seems, conclusion - I PM'd a OP of a thread that was closed & commiserated with him but also offered to talk about it further via email (He sounded mature, I hope he didn't think I was grooming him ). If he reported this then he's some cuckoo so I assumed the post was intercepted as I got a warning from the mods & no reply from the intended recipient! What would you think?

what did the warning say?

jocko4

Here's the warning:

Reason:

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Breach of Peace

The prohibition of discussion of relating to ****** and how to circumvent the restrictions they put in place is not limited to just the forums, but also visitor messages and all other parts of the site.

Don't do it again

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I substituted the asterisks for the text that was there!
The wording of this suggested to me that it was being monitored! Correct me if I'm wrong here!

Edit: Here'a an idea for you - why don't I send the same message to one of you & you agree not to report it & let's see if I get banned. Of course I won't be able to post that fact back here!

AlmightyCushion

jocko4 wrote: »

Here's the warning:


I substituted the asterisks for the text that was there!

The wording of this suggested to me that it was being monitored! Correct me if I'm wrong here!

That looks like it was because of a visitor message. Those are completely different to private messages as they are visible on your profile to anyone.

AckwelFoley

jocko4 wrote: »

Here's the warning:


I substituted the asterisks for the text that was there!

The wording of this suggested to me that it was being monitored! Correct me if I'm wrong here!

dont think that was a pm, just a visitor message on their profile page.

Steve

/major facepalm

jocko4 to clear this up, your pm wasn't intercepted - you never sent one. You mistakenly posted a visitor message on a users profile (which is visible to all members here) asking about something which is illegal.
You then got a slap on the wrist by an admin for it.

If I were you I'd stop trying to make a fuss about it and learn the difference between a pm and a visitor message.

Details here (mods only)

5starpool

jocko4 wrote: »

Can I explain now why I came to this erroneous, it seems, conclusion - I PM'd a OP of a thread that was closed & commiserated with him but also offered to talk about it further via email (He sounded mature, I hope he didn't think I was grooming him ). If he reported this then he's some cuckoo so I assumed the post was intercepted as I got a warning from the mods & no reply from the intended recipient! What would you think?

I assume the person you PM'd forwarded on the PM to the mod in question, unless it was an admin that warned you about it. Sometimes I get PM's forwarded on to me from people that post on the poker forum, but I always tell them to report the PM and an admin will deal with it if necessary as it is not something mods deal with.

To reiterare what orestes and BigComfyCushion said, we (or admins) cannot see PM's. The DBA type admins could if they really wanted to, as everything has to be stored on a DB, but that is something they never do. There was a big thread in the mods forum a while back about this very subject as some mods (myself included) assumed admins (there are less than 20 of them) could see everyones PM's, and it was explained that this most certainly was not the case.

Edit: lol. Visitor messages can be confusing for new posters I guess, but as said above, they are public domain.

orestes

Steve wrote: »

Details here (mods only)

I almost clicked on that out of habit

jocko4

OK that clears it all up now - I must have posted a visitor's message, doh! & then got my knickers in a twist - end of topic!!

Steve

orestes wrote: »

I almost clicked on that out of habit

You'll be back :P

G'luck in the real world you'll be missed

jocko4

Yes, Steve, what's that mods only link about? See I'm just annoyingly inquisitive

orestes

jocko4 wrote: »

Yes, Steve, what's that mods only link about? See I'm just annoyingly inquisitive

Going at a guess it would be the link to the reported Private Message thread in the moderator forum. Reported visitor messages come up in the regular mod forum, same as all reported posts, since they are in the public domain. Reprted private message threads go into the admin only forum.

Steve

jocko4 wrote: »

Yes, Steve, what's that mods only link about? See I'm just annoyingly inquisitive

It's a link to the report I sent about your message. I happened to see it when I was viewing the recipient's profile for an unrelated matter.

jocko4

Sorry Steve, I don't understand what you are saying - I might be thick or losing it

jocko4

jocko4 wrote: »

Sorry Steve, I don't understand what you are saying - I might be thick or losing it

Steve reported your visitor message about set-top boxes, the link is to the reported post explaining why he reported it. It's visible to mods only.

Steve

jocko4 wrote: »

Sorry Steve, I don't understand what you are saying - I might be thick or losing it

I was looking at the users profile where you left the message - I saw it was against site rules so I reported it (by pressing the 'report message' link)

I was looking at their profile because of another matter, nothing to do with you.

jocko4

OK, so that clears it up further - you were the one that reported the vistor's message. That explains a lot

Sparky

To clear up.
PM cannot be read by us Admins unless you report them to us.

If you wish to adjust your profile privacy towards other users you can do so here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/profile.php?do=privacy

The privacy statement is in the footer of all pages within boards: http://www.boards.ie/privacy.php


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