DX DTT (Fringe Reception of Digital Terrestrial)

200motels

Deleted User wrote: »

Try the grid horizontally polarised [it will be vertical for arfon] that will give you a better chance. This is what your grid looks like when mounted horizontal.
Which BBC region was it? [probably wales]
Theres a very slight chance that it was from NW england...in which case it was a fluke that you saw it.
Does your box tell you what UHF channel number it was on if you look at the signal strength menu for that channel?
Mine keeps them in the list even if the signal is gone so if they are there I can always check that.

Is that the type of ariel I should have?

presely is group b so no.
Honestly if no one in your area ever had presely,theres no point in spending money on one.

200motels

Deleted User wrote: »

presely is group b so no.
Honestly if no one in your area ever had presely,theres no point in spending money on one.

This is what I have at the moment. A few people not far from me can pick up analogue. I just want to know what type of ariel I would need?

If you have a group B and have never picked up presely,then forget it.
Down the road from me,they can't get it either..another mile over from them and it's perfect.
My advice is to forget about it to be honest.

200motels

Deleted User wrote: »

If you have a group B and have never picked up presely,then forget it.
Down the road from me,they can't get it either..another mile over from them and it's perfect.
My advice is to forget about it to be honest.

Ok I think I will.

martin12

Theres a few people in Dunmore East getting bbc mux even in the poor weather were getting at the moment but they are at the very top of the village also heard one person getting it in Crooke,Passage East.

200motels

martin12 wrote: »

Theres a few people in Dunmore East getting bbc mux even in the poor weather were getting at the moment but they are at the very top of the village also heard one person getting it in Crooke,Passage East.

Yes I've heard that and I'd be higher than them, maybe I have the ariel pointed in the wrong direction, well maybe.

martin12

Which part of Waterford are you in if your living in Dunmore rd area you would have Cheekpoint in your way

200motels

martin12 wrote: »

Which part of Waterford are you in if your living in Dunmore rd area you would have Cheekpoint in your way

On the Dunmore Road. That's why I'm not getting anything. Thanks, where are you in Waterford?

To the last two posters-be carefull as to the direction of preseli from your location.
An unobstructed view out to sea isn't enough if it's in the wrong direction.

Ger Roe

Report from Kilpedder :

Ok, I had some time to experiment a bit yesterday (or mess about on the roof as the wife calls it).

I changed the polarity of the grid to Horizontal and re-positioned to look for Five UK from Presley - as suggested by Black Briar. The analogue reception was weak but I still tried a scan on the DTT box anyway. Result was that signal strength is not good enough to produce a reliable picture at this location - frequent breakup.

It looks like DTT from Presley is not be an option this far north - maybe my attempt might be useful information for others trying.

I'll give Arfon a try when it comes on line and see what happens.

whats your arfon reception like?
The signal strength on dtt from there will be circa 2kw which delivers 7 days out of 10 here from presely.
However being the new type of signal 8k qram,it is going to be stronger than the existing presely low power muxes.
so I'm curious to know how it works out for you.
dso there is in october.

bmaxi

bmaxi wrote: »

Will it be difficult to align aerials to the digital signal, do they have to be more or less spot on like satellite dishes? It often gets quite stormy here in Courtown and I'd be afraid that aerials may have moved or bent a little. While I'm prepared to fiddle with a dish on the wall, no way I'm going on a roof or up a mast.

Try mylie redmond,who lives over the road from you and ask him to service it for you.
You will at least be guaranteed the psb muxes in the worst of weather bar the very odd drop out-I'm convinced of that given the performance of BBC a so far.

Today BBCA on my humax is at 85% strength and 100% quality despite the rain and mist.
Even the low power muxes are working well-all above 60% and 100% quality up here in Arklow.

200motels

Deleted User wrote: »

To the last two posters-be carefull as to the direction of preseli from your location.
An unobstructed view out to sea isn't enough if it's in the wrong direction.

What would be the right direction?

compass point due east of waterford I should imagine.

tlaavtech

Deleted User wrote: »

compass point due east of waterford I should imagine.

When I was doing my tests, we used Google earth to get the exact bearing. Search for Preselli Transmitter (or Presely Transmitter - can't remember which spelling!) and it will give a beautifully clear picture of the Transmitter (and its ridiculously long shadow!!) Peg this location. Then find your own house (as best you can since the Waterford City scan is very vague - turn on roads to be exact as you can). Then select the ruler tool and mark your location as the first point and the Preselli transmitter as the second, and it will then give you the distance and bearing. We found that it was about 97 degrees from the Cork Road.

However, you will not get anything in your location. If you follow the Google line, it will also show you the elevation - and the fact that there is lots of high stuff between you and it. There is 500m hill in wales that is in the direct line to Waterford, but is not in the line to wicklow.

I was also talking to someone involved in the setting up on the original Cablelink reception in Faithleg, and said that the whole of Waterford is a blackspot for the reception from Preselli. The old Faithleg reception had multiple antannae and amps and just about managed to get a signal.

Tests in Tramore have also yielded nothing.

Whatever you do 200motels, do not spend money on this - Spend it on Freesat instead.

200motels

tlaavtech wrote: »

When I was doing my tests, we used Google earth to get the exact bearing. Search for Preselli Transmitter (or Presely Transmitter - can't remember which spelling!) and it will give a beautifully clear picture of the Transmitter (and its ridiculously long shadow!!) Peg this location. Then find your own house (as best you can since the Waterford City scan is very vague - turn on roads to be exact as you can). Then select the ruler tool and mark your location as the first point and the Preselli transmitter as the second, and it will then give you the distance and bearing. We found that it was about 97 degrees from the Cork Road.

However, you will not get anything in your location. If you follow the Google line, it will also show you the elevation - and the fact that there is lots of high stuff between you and it. There is 500m hill in wales that is in the direct line to Waterford, but is not in the line to wicklow.

I was also talking to someone involved in the setting up on the original Cablelink reception in Faithleg, and said that the whole of Waterford is a blackspot for the reception from Preselli. The old Faithleg reception had multiple antannae and amps and just about managed to get a signal.

Tests in Tramore have also yielded nothing.

Whatever you do 200motels, do not spend money on this - Spend it on Freesat instead.

Thanks very much for your informed detailed view. I don't have to spend money as I've already got an out door ariel and a MPEG4 digital tuner inside my TV. I have Sky HD and Freesat box, it's just would have been nice to pick up UK channels via the ariel. If things change could you let me know? And thanks again.

200motels

200motels wrote: »

Thanks very much for your informed detailed view. I don't have to spend money as I've already got an out door ariel and a MPEG4 digital tuner inside my TV. I have Sky HD and Freesat box, it's just would have been nice to pick up UK channels via the ariel. If things change could you let me know? And thanks again.

Out of curiosity-have you ever got anything there bar the deflector?
Have you ever manually tuned your tv in analogue on UHF and picked up anything British?
The google earth thing is interesting.
I'd imagine a 500 metre high hill obstructing the line of sight from preseli isn't anything that is going to change too soon..barring an earthquake richter scale 9...and we wont wish for that

Based on my own experience,I'd guess th elocal hill in your way mentioned a few posts back nails the preseli coffin in your case.

I'm going to ask the mods to split out the posts here asking if its possible to get preseli in waterford [and kilpedder] into a separate thread because this thread is about the digital switchover mainly for existing preseli receiving areas ie where theres a likelyhood of reliable reception and not for talking about could I/will I in the fringe most marginal or almost no hope areas.

200motels

Deleted User wrote: »

Out of curiosity-have you ever got anything there bar the deflector?
Have you ever manually tuned your tv in analogue on UHF and picked up anything British?
The google earth thing is interesting.
I'd imagine a 500 metre high hill obstructing the line of sight from preseli isn't anything that is going to change too soon..barring an earthquake richter scale 9...and we wont wish for that

Based on my own experience,I'd guess th elocal hill in your way mentioned a few posts back nails the preseli coffin in your case.

I'm going to ask the mods to split out the posts here asking if its possible to get preseli in waterford [and kilpedder] into a separate thread because this thread is about the digital switchover mainly for existing preseli receiving areas ie where theres a likelyhood of reliable reception and not for talking about could I/will I in the fringe most marginal or almost no hope areas.

Yes last year I picked up HTV but only faintly, and I tried a manual scan on analogue and nothing. So your right unless there's an earthquake or something I'll never pick up anything. Just off topic the reception from the deflector system used to be quite good up to a couple months ago but at the moment it's fairly poor, don't know what's up with it.

200motels

Could the Mods sticky this thread for the time being because a lot of members in fringe areas might find it interesting.

martin12

Has anyone picked up the High Power Muxes from Caradon Hill should be interesting when they switch over completely later on tonight especially
S.E. Ireland

mrdtv

martin12 wrote: »

Has anyone picked up the High Power Muxes from Caradon Hill should be interesting when they switch over completely later on tonight especially
S.E. Ireland

Let us know. The new 100kW DVB-T stations at Caradon will be equivalent in coverage to the 500kW analogue stations so you should see BBC1, ITV, 4 and Five from Caradon in lift conditions in SE Ireland. I passed the new mast near the A30 at Launceston three weeks ago: its very impressive with its sparkling new DVB-T antenna system on the top. As the weather's good should be interesting in Ireland soon.

Antenna

The Analogues from there were regularly received with good reception many years ago on the Co. Cork coast but not in recent years.

I wonder why?!

marclt

Antenna wrote: »

The Analogues from there were regularly received with good reception many years ago on the Co. Cork coast but not in recent years.

I wonder why?!

Strange.. they were always good in south Wexford... especially Channel 4 - a nice addition during the summer months.

I used to pick up the radio stations during warm summers (remember them!!!!????) on a portable radio with the aerial sticking out a bit. The recent run of poor weather for lift conditions my have had something to do with it.

But there is a high pressure coming... in fact the weather has improved here quite a bit since darkness has fallen so clear skies are on the horizon.