Looking for advise on snag list completion

crazy600

I am looking for advise re my snag list, the current builder will not complete (even though HIS engineer came up with more snags than mine did), he is still looking for final payment with retention, before he will carry out the work, this is now going on 10mths!
Solicitors involved etc, etc, long story short - if I get the go ahead to carry out the works with other trades, should I hire each individual trade myself, or engage a contractor?
There's problems with the pooling on the flat roof, no UV paint on same, leaking gutters, messing flashing, all exterior of house painted in INTERIOR PAINT, all internal wood work needs to be sandd & then repainted, many ceilings and walls also need repainting, plaster board not fixed properly to wall and moving in on room, causing running cracks, extractor fan in kitchen doesn't work and it's fixed properly, carpentry work needed on kitchen, and some doors, I could go on for quite a while (not to mention all the replumbing and heating repair we already had to have repaired by other plumbers).
Any advise?

mickdw

This is not snagging to be honest. These are critical repairs in some instances and I wouldnt pay that builder anything. I would be claiming costs off him of getting a proper guy in to fix all his crap. Slabs loose on the wall wen the works are finished is just crazy. THat work is not worth paying for.

DOCARCH

Would have to agree. Do you want that sort of builder back in your house? Wouldn't pay a cent until everything is rectified.

tipperary

hi

that's some tale of woe alright. Is your builder Homebuilder by any chance?

Joey the lips

agrred this is not snagging! Snagging is fitting the spar shelving in hot press. Replace letter box on front door. Replace broken toilet seat, Replace broken window. All the stuff you mention should have been spotted by the finishing foreman as problems. I would be worried. Especially about the pooling! I see you taring a roof for a long time.

But tbh it will prob boil down to the fact that you either do or either dont like the house and are willing to put the money in to get it repaired.

I would be a little worried about what else the builder has not done. believe me unless your home is actually falling down homebond or premier guarantee are sh1t at dealing with issues.

Have you considered knocking into earlier houses and asking them what the houses are like.

PS: i have just copped this as being part of a bigger problem I would seriously consider getting advice from a solicitor if i were you. Sorry for your trouble

sinnerboy

crazy600 wrote: »

Solicitors involved etc, etc, Any advise?

Talk to them only .

Do I hear the sound of a thread lock ?

crazy600

Thanks for the comments.
I wounder about the hassle of taking an action against the builder, might just be easier to get him to walk off and let me get in some professionals. I even had an Architect on this build, who recomended the builder (alarm bells!!) who instructed us to pay the builder in full, (so glad we did'nt).

sinnerboy

Stop !

You have been making bad decisions from Day 1

You didn't like the costs - so you went self build . YOU ARE THE BUILDER NOW .
You didn't like the Architects advice on payments - so you took your own counsel on that too

Now you are looking to "get in some professionals" . You are where you are for not listening to them in first place . Yours is the classic risk all self builders walk into .

The best procurement method by far is to hire the one professional from start to finish . All other methods are illusory - they never deliver .

My advice is - go back to your Architect and seek his help to sort you out . And be glad he is still around for you .

mickdw

sinnerboy wrote: »

Stop !

You have been making bad decisions from Day 1

You didn't like the costs - so you went self build . YOU ARE THE BUILDER NOW .
You didn't like the Architects advice on payments - so you took your own counsel on that too

Now you are looking to "get in some professionals" . You are where you are for not listening to them in first place . Yours is the classic risk all self builders walk into .

The best procurement method by far is to hire the one professional from start to finish . All other methods are illusory - they never deliver .


My advice is - go back to your Architect and seek his help to sort you out . And be glad he is still around for you .

Was this a self build? From OP it appears that they are dealing with one builder who has left a trial of destruction throughout the house.
I cannot agree with your advice re running back to this architect. If he is recommending full payment in this case, I wouldnt be taking his advice. From the sound of things, it will possibly cost more to put things right there than doing it right in the first place so no more money should be going to the builder at this stage

Kashkai

I'm a guy who suffered the torments of hell in dealing with my cowboy builder, so I really feel for you pal, believe me. You start out thinking your architect and builder are professionals who will do a first class job and will look after you - er wrong!!!!!!!!! While there are (or at least there has to be according to the law of averages ) decent guys in the building trade, for every good one, there's at least one scumbag cowboy who'll do a sh1t job and then act all hurt when you refuse t opay him for his shoddy work.

From my own bitter experience, do not pay over another penny until the serious issues you've identified are rectified to your satisfaction. Money is the only hold you have over the builder and if you pay him before he rectifies his shoddy work, you are well and truly fcuked.

If the architect is RIAI registered, you could try giving them a call to attempt to get him to do his job and oversee the proper completion of works. However, even though my architect was RIAI registered, the only advice I got from the RIAI was "to sit down with the architect and work things out". Not much use when he fecked off and wouldn't fulfill his contract to oversee the works.

crazy600

sinnerboy wrote: »

Stop !

You have been making bad decisions from Day 1

You didn't like the costs - so you went self build . YOU ARE THE BUILDER NOW .
You didn't like the Architects advice on payments - so you took your own counsel on that too

Now you are looking to "get in some professionals" . You are where you are for not listening to them in first place . Yours is the classic risk all self builders walk into .

The best procurement method by far is to hire the one professional from start to finish . All other methods are illusory - they never deliver .

My advice is - go back to your Architect and seek his help to sort you out . And be glad he is still around for you .

Your are incorrect Sinnerboy, this builder was the sole contractor on this build from the pouring of foundations, (not the initial demolision).
Yes you are right that I didnt like the Architects advise on payment, why would a pay in full for a job that has serious faults as pointed out by both the contractors engineer & my engineer on both their snag lists.

r-i-tect

OP you did mention self build in this post.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055666627

Was your Architect suitably qualified or someone who just gave themselves the title Architect? You'd be amazed at the number of people who decided they could do an Architects jobs and hence decided to give themselves said title

sinnerboy

Thats just one of several anomalies . OP - take your solicitors advice . Over to him/her now .