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Out of country on sign on day?

  • 28-08-2009 11:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭


    next signing on day is september 15th i won't be in the country for that day is it possible to inform them of it and take a holiday day?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    Can I go on holiday?
    A person may receive Jobseeker's Benefit or Jobseeker's Allowance for 2 weeks holidays (i.e. 12 days excluding Sundays) in any calendar year. These holidays may be taken abroad or even in another part of Ireland!

    The person is required to inform the Local Office in advance of their departure and to complete a form. All holiday payments will be made retrospectively, so when you are back you need to go in to inform them of this. If a person goes on holiday for longer than 2 weeks, they may be paid in respect of the first two weeks, but should not receive payment for any period abroad in excess of this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    going on holiday from a tuesday to saturday next month, payment day is a monday, and the signing day is the week after i come back. I've organised it so i won't be missing any of this stuff, so should I still need to let them know? I'd rather not cos I think they'd make a big deal over it, but will if I have to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭PANADOL


    dont bother re holiday form just tell them ya hurt your back or your granny died they are all zombies in the sw offices


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    PANADOL banned for one month.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    cAr0l wrote: »
    Can I go on holiday?
    A person may receive Jobseeker's Benefit or Jobseeker's Allowance for 2 weeks holidays (i.e. 12 days excluding Sundays) in any calendar year. These holidays may be taken abroad or even in another part of Ireland!

    The person is required to inform the Local Office in advance of their departure and to complete a form. All holiday payments will be made retrospectively, so when you are back you need to go in to inform them of this. If a person goes on holiday for longer than 2 weeks, they may be paid in respect of the first two weeks, but should not receive payment for any period abroad in excess of this.
    you need to fill the form two weeks in advance otherwise you may have payments delayed until it's processed


    not 100% sure what happens if you take a lot more than 2 weeks hols, there is a chance that you might have to start a new claim with the 12 week delay again on initial payment


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭iMax


    Hopefully I won't get a ban for this... I could fully understand if you had to be out of the country for a sign on day attending an interview or somesuch (assuming back up documentation), but should the SW be allowing holidays ?

    Should someone on SW be able to afford to take holidays ?

    Both my wife & I work full time (thankfully), but we can't afford one this year... Not sour grapes, I've had many a good one over the years, it just seems strange to me that it's allowed.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    iMax wrote: »
    Hopefully I won't get a ban for this... I could fully understand if you had to be out of the country for a sign on day attending an interview or somesuch (assuming back up documentation), but should the SW be allowing holidays ?

    Should someone on SW be able to afford to take holidays ?

    Both my wife & I work full time (thankfully), but we can't afford one this year... Not sour grapes, I've had many a good one over the years, it just seems strange to me that it's allowed.
    it's only a holiday in the sense that once in a year you can pick two consecutive sign on days that you don't need to physically sign on , you have to tell them where you are going too

    there is no extra money, perhaps it's a family holiday or from savings or Ryanair + couchsurfing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    iMax wrote: »
    Should someone on SW be able to afford to take holidays ?
    Yes, why wouldn't they?

    Someone on say, Jobseekers Benefit, may have received €100k+ in a redundancy payment but they are still fully entitled to their social welfare payment if they have paid their contributions and satisfy the necessary criteria.

    Your equating a social welfare payment to someone on the bread line, thats not always the case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭thecornerboy


    iMax wrote: »
    Hopefully I won't get a ban for this... I could fully understand if you had to be out of the country for a sign on day attending an interview or somesuch (assuming back up documentation), but should the SW be allowing holidays ?

    Should someone on SW be able to afford to take holidays ?

    Both my wife & I work full time (thankfully), but we can't afford one this year... Not sour grapes, I've had many a good one over the years, it just seems strange to me that it's allowed.

    You should hand in your passport when you sign on the dole?

    Total sour grapes there. As somebody pointed out, a lot of people were made redundant over the last 18 months. So yes, you're "allowed" leave the country if you're on the dole.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    not 100% sure what happens if you take a lot more than 2 weeks hols, there is a chance that you might have to start a new claim with the 12 week delay again on initial payment

    I was out of the country for five weeks earlier in the year, told them about it before going and when I got back I was paid for two of those five weeks same as usual on my return. Just had to go back into the office the day after to tell them I was back and I think I signed whilst there to make up for the one I'd missed whilst away.

    I was also out of the country for about another 3 months as well, told them about that again before going. On my return they had closed my claim though and I had to open a completely new claim, that only took about two weeks to come through though compared with the 6 weeks or so I think it took for my actual initial claim.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭paddyblue


    Hi

    I have a question on Jobseekers benefit based on a hypotetical senario...

    I haven't made more than 260 PRSI Contributions.
    I am then made Redundant from my position at work.
    I claim my jobseekers benefit for the allowed time - ie 9 months.

    I'm aware that I am entitled to a 2week 'holiday' period - where I can be out of the country and still get my weekely benefit.
    But what happens when I need to spend longer than 2 weeks out of the country - say 8 weeks in total (not consecutive)
    Obviously I will not be entitled to receive benefit for 6 of those 8 weeks.

    My question is - do those 6 weeks count as part of my overall 9 month entitlement, or will the benefit still be payable at the end of the 9 months assuming I still haven't found any work?

    To put my question another way....
    When the SW office refer to '9months maximum benefit' do they mean
    A - 36 weeks of benefit, claimable any stage as long as it is for one consecutive umemployed period. Ie - your stamps carry forward past the 9 month mark if you miss any weeks outside the 2 week 'holiday'.
    B - You can claim a weekely benefit for up to 9 months after you are made redundant, including a 2 week 'holiday'. If you are unable to sign-on at any stage after the 2 week holiday then you loose those weeks. Ie - your stamps do not carry forward.

    hope I'm being clear enough.
    Appreciate any advice on this.


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