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24 HOUR BUS LANES

  • 27-08-2009 4:20pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11


    I'm sure this has been asked before, but for years I've been wondering.If most bus routes finish at midnight what's the logic behind 24 hour bus lanes :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    redferrari wrote: »
    I'm sure this has been asked before, but for years I've been wondering.If most bus routes finish at midnight what's the logic behind 24 hour bus lanes :confused:

    To keep lanes clear for emergency services on busy routes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    Also private buses are not bound by the same timetables as public transport buses, so the 24 hour bus lanes also serve them and of course Taxi's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,155 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    I wouldn't matter if they were one hour bus lanes because people will not drive in them anyway.

    I was driving along the Western Road in Cork today where the bus operates from 7:30 - 9:30 and 16:30 - 18:30 and I was blocked by 2 cars and blown out of it by many others.

    So, you can put whatever time you want on those signs but people will not use them anyway, at least outside of Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    Since it is difficult to read bus lane hours, especially at night, then you might as well have 24 hour lanes. There is little enough traffic after midnight anyway so the extra lane is not needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭trad


    Onkle wrote: »
    To keep lanes clear for emergency services on busy routes

    Baloney
    If a bus lane is the normal 07.00 to 19.00 that lane is clear for emergency services.

    Outside of these hours traffic is much lighter and there is no absolute necessity to have an empty lane for emergency vehicles. That is why they have sirens, blue lights and, hopefully, highly trained drivers.

    I think the 24 hour bus lane has evolved because where you have a 24 hr bus lane on a dual carriageway there is no hard should. If it was a 12 hour bus lane, does the bus lane become a hard shoulder outside bus lane hours. Easiest option make it a 24 hour bus lane and no one can stop on it unless you are driving or abandoning a double decker bus on the quays.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭bladebrew


    Berty wrote: »
    I wouldn't matter if they were one hour bus lanes because people will not drive in them anyway.

    I was driving along the Western Road in Cork today where the bus operates from 7:30 - 9:30 and 16:30 - 18:30 and I was blocked by 2 cars and blown out of it by many others.

    So, you can put whatever time you want on those signs but people will not use them anyway, at least outside of Dublin.

    yeah definetly true in cork! very rarely would a car venture into a bus lane at anytime of the day or night!! i think everyone assumes they are never allowed to drive in them:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    trad wrote: »
    I think the 24 hour bus lane has evolved because where you have a 24 hr bus lane on a dual carriageway there is no hard should. If it was a 12 hour bus lane, does the bus lane become a hard shoulder outside bus lane hours. Easiest option make it a 24 hour bus lane and no one can stop on it unless you are driving or abandoning a double decker bus on the quays.

    Yeah most 24 hour bus lanes tend to be hard shoulders that were converted to bus lanes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    I actually love driving at 7pm in Dublin, quick slide into the buslane nearly always means an extra 6-7 car lengths closer to the next set of traffic lights.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    bigkev49 wrote: »
    I actually love driving at 7pm in Dublin, quick slide into the buslane nearly always means an extra 6-7 car lengths closer to the next set of traffic lights.

    Wow, sounds great. A whole 6-7 car lengths you say ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    Wow, sounds great. A whole 6-7 car lengths you say ;-)

    Can be the difference between one and two revolutions of the traffic lights. Suits me fine if you stay in the traffic ;).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    bigkev49 wrote: »
    Can be the difference between one and two revolutions of the traffic lights. Suits me fine if you stay in the traffic ;).
    I'm usually on my bike, I don't even stop at the traffic lights:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭trad


    Wow, sounds great. A whole 6-7 car lengths you say ;-)

    Multiply that by 20 sets of lights on the same road, at least 5 minutes saved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    I'm usually on my bike, I don't even stop at the traffic lights:D

    Release the hounds....;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    redferrari wrote: »
    If most bus routes finish at midnight what's the logic behind 24 hour bus lanes :confused:
    What's the logic of needing an extra lane for normal traffic after midnight?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭trad


    What's the logic of needing an extra lane for normal traffic after midnight?
    Bus lanes in Dublin are generally 07.00 to 19.00 mon to fri or sat. Some have a gap of a few hours during the day.

    The bus lanes on the outskirts tend to be newer, on dual carriageways and generally 24 hour, 7 days.

    It's not a question of needing an extra lane after the end of the bus lane hours, it's a question of giving back to the motorists the traffic lane that was taken from them to provide a bus lane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    The annoying thing about the 24 hr bus lane is, what bus uses it after say, 11:00 pm or midnight?

    There is a 24hr bus lane either side of Dunshaughlin. If you are traveliing home late, and find yourself stuck behind 2 trucks, the bus lane is a gift in the dark hours. Upon entering the bus lane, you discover that its a 24hr lane. This means you can get an 80 euro fine for driving in a bus lane, when there are no buses around???

    Just a tired me, behind 2 trucks doin 70 on a 100 kmh stretch of road. :(

    Cant use the bus lane as its for buses, of which there are none. You see?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    trad wrote: »
    Bus lanes in Dublin are generally 07.00 to 19.00 mon to fri or sat. Some have a gap of a few hours during the day.

    The bus lanes on the outskirts tend to be newer, on dual carriageways and generally 24 hour, 7 days.

    It's not a question of needing an extra lane after the end of the bus lane hours, it's a question of giving back to the motorists the traffic lane that was taken from them to provide a bus lane.

    Except it's usually not a lane that was taken from motorists, it was a hard shoulder that was converted for use as a bus lane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    trad wrote: »
    it's a question of giving back to the motorists the traffic lane that was taken from them
    What traffic lane do you speak of? As has been said, if there was no bus lane, it would revert to a hard shoulder.
    , behind 2 trucks doin 70 on a 100 kmh stretch of road. :(
    The legal speed limit for a truck on a public road is 80kph regardless of a higher posted limit.


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